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Hey everyone!

I literally made this account to ask the community about a commission problem, I hope you guys can help me. :/

So the story goes like this — I placed a commission with an artist on Inkbunny on June 16th. After a speedy fast reply, we discuss the details and I pay on the same date. Cool, right? The artist has done work for me in the past, so I decide to cut her some slack and send it through Friends and Family to make things easier for her.

We're now 4 month in and I haven't heard a word from the artist. All of her regular uploading platforms are absolutely dead as well as her social media, it's like she just disappeared. All of my private messages I've sent her on everything have gone unread which tells me she most likely hasn't logged in to any of her accounts since we last spoke.

My question to you guys is this — how screwed am I on getting a refund? Artist has vanished and I made the brutal mistake of sending payment through Friends and Family. At least the 6 month deadline hasn't hit, right?

Any help would be appreciated, and thanks for reading. 

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Beware Faris Batwan


(UPDATED 06 OCTOBER 2018)

WHO: FarisBatwan (FBsuits) - http://www.furaffinity.net/user/farisbatwan & https://twitter.com/fbsuits 


WHERE: Initial contact via gmail, conversation/discussion also via Twitter DM's & Discord.


WHAT: Digitigrade Fullsuit - Head, Hands, Tail, Bodysuit, Outdoor Footpaws and Indoor Sockpaws


WHEN: Initial contact on August 22nd, 2017.  Paid in full on Septeber 02, 2017.  Initial suspicion that things were not progressing as planned began in June 2018, especially moving into July 2018.


EXPLAIN:   I commissioned Faris after seeing her gallery on FA and seeing a couple suiters at Megaplex 2017 wearing her suits.  Initial contact was good, and she was pretty responsive to messages.  I was assured that Megaplex 2018 was more than enough time to complete this order, and told that paying in full sooner would assure me an even higher place in the queue. (1)

After I paid communication began to go south.  There were days, even weeks in between responses in gmail.  Faris claimed several times that messages were not arriving from me, or that she had sent something I had not received.  I thought this odd, but we agreed to move off-site for communication to Twitter DMs, and shortly thereafter to Discord.

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Community Discussion: Moving Offsite

Howdy!

We wanted to have a community wide discussion as we are in the very early stages of talks about moving the community to our own website.

For a long time this hasn't been on our mind simply because livejournal offers everything that is necessary to operate and maintain the community to a level of standards that we are comfortable with. However, as time has gone on the number of individuals who don't know how to utilize the website or who require assistance to utilize the website has gone up.

So we ask the question: Do you, the users, want to see Artists_Beware move onward to our own website?

Moving to a new website would require us to find a system that can:

- Allow for submissions that we can review. (This may mean setting up an offsite submission system like a google doc, or a built in submission system.)
- Allow for users to comment on posts. (This may require registration to the site.)
- Comment moderation. We want to maintain quality within in the comments just as it is now.
- A system that allows for tagging like we have now.

So far we are looking into word press, but are open to any suggestions.

Right now we also have a Twitter and a Facebook, but there are zero plans to utilize these platforms beyond announcing new posts to the main comm.

I'll be adding a poll. If you feel strongly one way or the other we would like to hear from you. In addition, if you feel like there's more Artists_Beware can do to make itself more openly accessible please do speak up!

Poll #2085617 Should Artists_Beware Move Off of LJ?

Should Artists_Beware Move Off of LJ?

Yes, I would like to see A_B move off of LJ.
75(58.6%)
No, I would not like to see A_B move.
50(39.1%)
Other, I will comment below.
3(2.3%)

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Monthly Positive Reviews: OCTOBER

Happy Spook-tober!

If you've had a great commission experience, either as an artist or a customer, please comment here and spread the word. It doesn't have to be a full-on story, though you're welcome to type one! All we need are a few lines on why this person was so great to work with. You can also recommend companies, such as printers or fursuit-making teams, as long as it's relevant to artists!

There are plenty of reasons to post someone here: perhaps they went above and beyond the call of duty to fix a problem, or were so prompt with communication and payment it was like having them right next to you, or were very professional and courteous every time you contacted them.

To help keep things organized, please follow this simple form:

1. Name of the person you recommend (please also put this in the subject of your comment):
2. Link to person's website or art page:
3. Approximate time period of when you did business with this person:
4. Details (Here's where you tell us why they are so awesome! What made the transaction go so well? Perhaps link to the art or suit you bought/sold if you feel like sharing. Please mark NSFW if the subject matter is adult!!):

If you have multiple people to recommend, please put them in separate comments to keep things organized.

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Dani Memorial Pin Strawpoll

I created a strawpoll for the 4 designs we got for the Dani Memorial Pin project:
https://www.strawpoll.me/16529213

Please vote, and we'll tally the votes at the end of October.

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A_B New Moderator Applications (OPEN)

Howdy!

Artists_Beware is seeking to bring new members onto our team.

What we need:
* All moderators must use the moderator discord. This is non negotiable. There is both a desktop and a mobile version. We have to be able to reliably get a hold of you.

* Availability in the US Timezones. All moderators work in pairs or more, so we need someone who can communicate with the group at large when we're discussing posts.

* You must be able to handle disagreements politely and courteously. There will be instances where decisions about a beware will be split between your fellow moderators.

* You must be able to handle harassment and disagreement from users professionally. We will not tolerate "clap backs" or aggressive behavior.

* Estimated working hours varies. It can be a few minutes worth of work per day, or sometimes a few hours per week. It's entirely dependent on queue load.

* Potential moderators do not have to field user questions or moderate comments if they don't want to. We are looking for queue moderators primarily.

* You must be able to keep the contents of the queue and any emails you receive confidential as we sometimes become privy to personal information. Failure to do so will result in your immediate removal from the team.

Some notes:
* If you would like to also moderate comments please be prepared to receive a lot of emails. We receive emails for every comment, edit, and submission into the community. It's recommended to make a separate email for A_B only.

* Previous moderation experience isn't required, but it is helpful. Knowledge of Livejournal's moderation system isn't required, but it is helpful.

What to Expect:
Individuals who are chosen will be interviewed, and then will enter in a training period with the other moderators via Discord. While we may pick multiple individuals, there may be a chance where not all trainees will become fully fledged mods.

Comments are screened below. Please fill out this form, and the applications will be open for 2 weeks. They will close October 9th 2018.

Length in A_B: (How long have you been a member)
Hours of Availability (in Central time): (The hours you will best be able to do queue work.)
Previous Experience: (Have you moderated a community before? It doesn't have to be specific to Livejournal, but knowing Livejournal's moderator interface would be helpful.)
Other Items to Know: (Are you a commission artist? Fursuit maker? Fluent in another language besides English?)
Why would you like to moderate A_B?:
Best way to contact you?: (LJ PM, email, etc.)

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So I wanted to snag a Halloween YCH that I saw in a post. I contacted the artist and send them the money. After sending the money, they sent me their TOS. So technically I agreed to a TOS I have never seen nor read.

The TOS was also not mentioned in the post. The TOS has a clause that says "after I have given you a sketch, refunds will not be issued" which makes me nervous. I feel like I should ask for a refund but I wanted a second opinion.

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Sorry it took me so long to do this. My life has been busy, but I wanted to make sure I did this when I got time.
Would folks please vote on FB, so I don't have to tally votes on more than one site:
https://www.facebook.com/pg/daniwolfmemorial/

Also, I received an offer to turn all the pin designs not chosen for the enamel pin into buttons, so all of the designs submitted will be made into art to memorialize Kayla-La.

I'll close the voting after Halloween, so we have plenty of time.

Thank you all for keeping this going.
<3

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Assistance Is Greatly Appreciated

I'm trying to write up a contract for fursuit commissions and could use the input of someone more knowledgeable than I am. I'm not actually a furry, but a friend of mine is and wanted to start selling custom suits. I work in the legal field (though not as an attorney, I must stress) so I did a little research and roughed something out, with an eye towards protecting her creations from modifications or actions that she wouldn't want to be associated with. (i.e. overtly sexual, racist/bigoted, or just an act of moral turpitude).

If anyone is willing to give it a look and offer advice on whether it is suitable, or what should be changed to make it more appropriate (or tailored to her needs), I would be deeply indebted to you. I just want her to have a layer of protection against the stranger elements of the furry world.

The work in progress of the contract can be found here:

Thank You again.

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Beware FarisBatwan "FBsuits"

WHO: FarisBatwan (FBsuits) - http://www.furaffinity.net/user/farisbatwan - https://twitter.com/fbsuits and the facebook which is under "FuzzyBatSuits" https://www.facebook.com/fuzzybatsuits/

WHERE: Conversations were spread out between Facebook and Texts.

WHAT: body suit commission, feet, handpaws, head trade, a pre-made black body suit, and Lastly a body suit that she was fixing for me made by headsandtailsstudios named "Zaroo".

WHEN: Febuary 22, 2018 [As of September 25, Pending refund but has not made contact with me since then].

EXPLAIN: The initial transaction was 550$ for a Body suit of one of my characters and a pair of black feetpaws, she said that she would throw in a pair of handpaws in for free with the commission.

Transaction 2/22/2018: https://imgur.com/a/oJhGtyB full payment as she requested here; https://imgur.com/a/ANWt6HB

While the commission was taking place I was in the process of looking for a black body for my character Kieraa (We did a head trade so she was making my Kieraa head) when she learned I was looking for a black body suit she told me about one she had for 400$ it was a planti-grade black body https://imgur.com/a/mDiAzAs I questioned her about why we couldn't swap my ZER0 commission body out with this one and she told me that since she had already gotten the materials and pattern out that she wasn't going to (also needed the extra money; https://imgur.com/a/uuypkVd)
so I went ahead and paid 400$ + 22$ she requested extra for(Payments for it: https://imgur.com/XJFkBBY Apologies they were sent in weird amounts I had to dig through and balance funds at the time)
Upon further discussion I wanted fur to be added to the back of the body so it had a moehawk/mane look to it so when I brought that to her attention she wanted an additional 22$ to pay for the fur cost to add that look onto it (essentially making this now a commission even though it was a premade) https://imgur.com/wr60I4s So I paid her the 22$ on May 14 which can be seen in the payment plan started for the body picture.
May 31st I get this message https://imgur.com/plykAWG "So I ran into a huge problem" So I was curious what was going on ... But wasn't getting any responses back so I messaged her on my phone asking what the problem was and getting worried because there was no responses. I find out later; https://imgur.com/oDqGNkt / https://imgur.com/VnrQNLb That the body was a 'premade' only because it was someones DTD who messed up and then later was demanding their body back. But I had already paid for extra work to be done on this body that she did say she did and all of that stuff (never got pictures of the extension fur on the back though still) She said it would be handled, but I'm still not sure if it was handled correctly.

Fast forward a little bit and my partner ends up getting angry at her for not producing any WIPS and making a lot of excuses - He wanted me to open a paypal case and put his foot down on it because we sent the money "Friends and Family" and if there was a chance we could get it back then we should try https://imgur.com/5FnF1X8 so she responds back to me https://imgur.com/4QdVRCz and https://imgur.com/MWCi0Ne Holding me responsible for the case being opened and I told her it wasn't about the money so much as it was about the WIPS for the two of us because they were flat out promised https://imgur.com/cNCEkgo Case was 'mutually decided' to be closed because of the Terms of Service she has set in place so I couldn't have a case open and she provided me with pictures of an abandoned project along with SOME of my commission (seen here: https://imgur.com/K3fvK1t / https://imgur.com/jTTu6Ay only I couldn't see my commission part very well because everything was so jumbled and bunched together but there is; The black body suit which I couldn't see very well, Zaroo's suit she was fixing up and some side projects which were a black and red body with a bio-hazard symbol in the middle along with a tail she didn't want to throw away because it was a canceled commission she had prior so was giving to me and a pair of handpaws that weren't part of that exact commission)

With the case closed it takes me a little bit to get something from her for a while but eventually I got tracking information; https://imgur.com/aw9QzRy by it's history it took a while to update, the number was made on September 1st https://imgur.com/Ds2L3DH but the item was not picked up until September 7th, which is shown there. It looks like an odd route the package was going but I decided not to question it, I live in Florida so the route looked odd to me. When I finally looked at 'estimated' delivery date and lined things up, the package was headed and delivered to North Dakota; https://imgur.com/lqwUcWD I asked her about it; (Here's where shes saying it's the right tracking number and going to me; https://imgur.com/lAQqbQm / https://imgur.com/wjb6Bbk and here https://imgur.com/pSgeo2J) in that package was suppose to be half of my commission + a bodysuit she decided to fix for me almost a year ago (https://imgur.com/f3Tt6SR where she was asking for the measurements to fix him, you can see it in the pictures I received when the case was opened) she said it must of been a post office mix-up and it was out of her hands. She didn't give me a postal case number or anything like that so I had to call in and ask all the questions and when they got back to me they said the package was suppose to go to North Dakota and not Florida, so where my stuff is now?

"Edit: I found out what happened with my tracking, In the comments someone claimed the tracking number and gave me proof https://www.dropbox.com/sh/smkpciia50xrorh/AAAaPASAnzU6ylwx_81o9Y5Va?dl=0 that the tracking + package went to them. I honestly don't know where my stuff is, but she had told me so many times she would be 'done' with my stuff but never had any pictures to back up the rest of my commission being done. There's more I'd like to add to this so when I get the rest of the screenshots in order where I've asked countless times for WIPS and haven't gotten responses I'll upload the link to the album to the beware.

Update: We are working on payment plans for refunding. Will update when refunds are being sent.
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