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Artist Beware: Guro-boy

WHO: Guro-Boy
https://josuke-hiigashikata.tumblr.com/ (Abandoned)
New: https://gyro-joestar.tumblr.com/
https://twitter.com/j0hnny_joestar (Abandoned)
New: https://twitter.com/gyr0zeppeli
WHERE: https://toyhou.se/guro-boy (Deactivated account)
https://refsheet.net/guroboy (Still trying to trade their dainty) Moved to https://refsheet.net/Wormwood (nsfw art featured here: http://archive.is/mP8Op )

WHAT: 2 longthings (closed species by Glidertoo)

WHEN: Jan 31st, 2018
EXPLAIN: I was approached by Guro-boy when I placed a thread seeking Longthings to buy. They messaged me with two that they were selling, one at 150$ and the other at 100$. I thought this was fine and wanted to buy them both. They originally asked me to send as Friends and family, but I said I was uncomfortable with that and offered to pay the fees for them. They sent me an invoice, which I was comfortable with because invoices are more secure. They gave me the image files and all was fine after. About a month in, I was contacted by a user, who I won’t mention, stating that their longthing looked eerily similar to one of mine. I agreed and sent Glider a note about it. (I later learned Glider isn’t as active where I contacted them, so that’s not an issue). I then contacted Guro and they stated it was a custom. I was still very wary, but I accepted it and just kept things quiet while I did some research. Things got busy, IRL, so I dropped the thing to take care of my life.
Glider posted a journal to FA today, April 11th, 2018. And stated there was a tracing issue. I asked in the thread, for someone to note me the name of the user. I was noted, by SEVERAL people, that it was guro-boy. This prompted me to message glider, who was active on the site, for confirmation. They confirmed my suspicions and stated I was sold two altered long things.

As of currently, I have filed a dispute asking for them to VERIFY the legitimacy of these longthings, but I will be escalating it to an immediate claim.

Glider’s journal: https://www.furaffinity.net/journal/8690922 (http://archive.is/utgJN)
The Two longthings I was sold: https://sta.sh/21sds6or442j?edit=1
Conversation for original purchase: https://sta.sh/017r9nhrw0el
Paypal proof: https://sta.sh/0amkxon9kd9
Second PM asking about legitimacy: https://sta.sh/01jzv5os7nd5
PM to glider: https://sta.sh/01x7uafbrotp
Folder with proofs: https://sta.sh/210pqzzkxepp?edit=1

Update: They have contacted me via email, and offered a refund on a payment plan after I escalated the dispute to a claim. https://sta.sh/01kh1arkw3ms
My reply and theirs: https://sta.sh/022fhs2g4eou
They have NOT refunded me anything yet. Despite this conversation happening this morning
Update 4/21/2018: They have contacted me via email and offered me the partial refund via. Together, we have decided that I will deny the refund so the case can be reviewed and the date extended in order to get a full refund of the 258$. I felt this was the best course of action, since the date they originally requested for the second payment was so close.
Updated: PayPal closed the case, not in my favor, and now I’m out the 258$. :,) So there’s nothing I can do, except hope that Guro actual refunds me, since I have no ground to stand on anymore. Update (5/1/2018): Paypal has closed the case, again, against my favor. I contacted Guro boy. They replied saying they needed to check if their bank wouldn't frekk out. Then proceed to tell me that they WOULD refund it. Here we are. Almost a week past the actual date they said they'd have the full amount. Nothing. I'm taking this as a loss. I am going to see if my bank will do anything. I am doubtful, but I can at least hope.
5/19/2018 My bank has denied the claim to reverse the charge. Their reason is that paypal stated that I authorized the transaction. They found the payment to be valid. So, I've filed a complaint with the BBB, but at this point, there's nothing I can do.
https://sta.sh/018o63e5htu8 (BBB case)
Guro has been seen trying to commission Glider, despite not refunding me the amount. https://prnt.sc/jmayyx (Archive link: http://archive.is/ynH7z )

5/26/2018: It looks like Guro-boy has migrated to making off-brands of the closed species he was banned from. https://toyhou.se/~forums/5867.service-reviews/63052.psa-artist-beware-guro-boy-updated-5-24-?page=8#post-1493872
Second update: Guro has now blocked me from his social media platforms, which leaves me no way to contact him. It confirms that he was the one that made these fake longthings, and not this "darlingdoq" account he claimed sold him these. https://sta.sh/0hdfdn9kpor
Third update:
And ladies and gents, I have payment part 1 of 2 from Guro-boy.

Update 6/3: New accounts added to the list of accounts.

** 6/20/2018: A rep from paypal called me today. She resolved my claim and issued a credit for thew full 258$ to my account. It turns out, there was a large misunderstanding on paypal's part and my correct channel through the BBB resolved this. I issued a refund to Guro-boy for the 125$ they gave me. I am not interested in keeping money that is not mine. I am considering this resolved.

Note: Cleaned up the HTML coding.

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( 10 comments — Leave a comment )
May. 11th, 2018 06:11 am (UTC)
If you paid the money via a CC, then you can file a chargeback through your credit card company.

I'm really sorry you've had to deal with this.
May. 11th, 2018 08:22 am (UTC)
Sadly, my bank doesn’t automatically do chargebacks like that. They conduct their own investigation and decide what to do from there. I’ve been down this road before, and I’ve been denied the chargeback. I’m not very hopeful anything will come from it.
May. 11th, 2018 07:27 am (UTC)
I remember reading your post on TH. This whole situation just gets worse and worse...
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May. 11th, 2018 07:24 pm (UTC)
Guro-boy has affected me as well as other users by stealing designs and scamming people with fake ones that he made himself - https://toyhou.se/~forums/5867.service-reviews/63052.psa-artist-beware-guro-boy-updated-

He took an image of a design I own and badly edited out the watermark. Then he went to and took artwork I paid for and tried to sell/trade the design to others who are interested in the Longthing species.

I typed up more about this on the toyhouse thread, but if any of you are in the adoptable community avoid this person at all costs.
May. 12th, 2018 03:07 am (UTC)
Oh my word, that's a whole lot of people. So do they target a specific species, or is it all sorts of adoptables they swipe?
May. 26th, 2018 02:33 pm (UTC)
I'd love to say that it's just the two species, but it doesn't seem to be that way. He's just been caught between these two due to Glider's large absence on FA within the last year. However, he's moved to other species.

But as an interesting update, he's now taken to using a dainty specific base to make off-brand dainties for himself.
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Jun. 4th, 2018 01:09 am (UTC)
mod comment
Howdy. We'd like to ask that you remove the tumblr links and other instances of proxy from your update and keep this post focused solely on your own experience with guro-boy. Any third parties will need to submit their own bewares should they choose to do so.

Jun. 4th, 2018 01:20 am (UTC)
Re: mod comment
Corrected! Forgot to remove those when I pasted the coding. Should be good now.
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