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WHO: Millenium-Millie-Gryphon AKA Millie AKA Onyx AKA Onyx Art Studios

WHERE: http://www.furaffinity.net/user/millenium-millie-gryphon

WHAT: 2 x circus poster style images of my otter shape

WHEN: Claimed slots, provided references and paid on February 14th. Inquired on progress April 10th, got response and first pic on April 16th, which was of a wrong character. After informing the artist of that, she did the second pic, then said she will redraw this one, then delayed past the paypal dispute deadline after which stopped responding to notes (still reading them and taking other commissions).

EXPLAIN: Millie opens these commissions via journals/picture announcements on a regular basis. I took two slots and sent info February 14th, 2017, paid same day.

After no progress for a couple months, I’ve contacted Millie on April 10th to check on the progress, and got a response with one image April 16th. There was one problem with that though, it was a wrong character, which I told her. We have reconfirmed the correct references, and May 7th, I got the second picture. That one was pretty well done. I again informed Millie that the first one was wrong, and also mentioned that it was supposed to go with another picture with the same subject from another artist. I have also requested the picture with the wrong character taken down. She said she will redraw it, then it took a series of delays until paypal dispute deadline has expired (in hindsight, I should have opened it, but her staying in communication and being polite kind of led me astray). After that, she stopped responding to notes while reading them, being active and offering further commissions.

PROOF: https://imgur.com/a/eJB32

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Do NOT repost your old bewares. They are being archived.


M-ree BiPolar
Oct. 11th, 2017 07:25 am (UTC)
Re: I'm the Artist in Question
I am not sure how asking to take a picture down could be misread for liking it. And if you going over the timeline, then it is:

February 14th: Me sending you references and payment and you acknowledging it:
Refs -- me ottah, https://www.furaffinity.net/journal/3935715
Paypal -- MreeBiPolar@gmail.com
Talents -- assistant (submersion?) and firewalker.

(Almost 2 months)

April 10th: Me first asking if there's any progress.

April 16th: You posting that pic, me mentioning it's the wrong character and
M-ree BiPolar
Oct. 11th, 2017 07:48 am (UTC)
Re: I'm the Artist in Question
(So "quote" button does absolutely not what I thought it does)

April 16th: You posting that pic, me mentioning it's the wrong character and you stating you "thought for sure you wanted your polar bear!"

(almost a month)

May 7th: You sending me the second pic and me requesting to take down the first one.

Ok, maybe it was wrong for me to wait with that, but in my experience, escalating an issue when there are other outstanding images usually poorly affects their quality.

Also, you stating, "And I'll make sure to make you a piece to make up for the first commission." which I read as you going to redraw it.

June 23rd: Me checking whether you have got to it (and unfortunately, not noticing at the time that the message went unread).

Compared to the time it took you to get the first and second pics done, respectively, as well as your journals mentioning the exams, I think that was pretty reasonable time to wait.

August 19th: Me asking again. Message read, no reply.

September 30th: Me asking once more. Once again, read, no reply.

October 7th: Me posting the beware journal.

October 10th: You contacting me and saying you forgot to upload it before. And linking a 5-minutes edit removing the tattoos (their remains can even still be seen pretty well if you know what to look for), then stating here that you did it a month ago (which would be about September 10th, well three weeks before I contacted you the second time. Pardon me if I don't buy that at all.

Oct. 10th, 2017 09:05 pm (local)
Re: I'm the Artist in Question
Thank you for saying so.

As to your question, I actually completed it about a month ago but forgot to upload it [...]
Oct. 11th, 2017 03:46 pm (UTC)
Re: I'm the Artist in Question
At the end of the day. I have fixed your piece as desired (which you have not replied to yet on FA) and this post is still actively going down.

I don't understand why this post is still up, as the issue at hand has been resolved.

I feel as though I have defended myself decently as a person and artist and have completed my end of helping resolve this.
Anything further just feels like fighting/arguing for the sake of it, which I'm not a fan of or wish to participate in.

I'm honestly sorry that you didn't like the art and that this commissioning process went as rockily as it did.
M-ree BiPolar
Oct. 11th, 2017 04:00 pm (UTC)
Re: I'm the Artist in Question
I don't want this dragged any further, either, just did not expect to find a few dozens new comments here after the FA exchange. I can't reply on FA now (or for next few hours) though.

For what it's worth, I am sorry for all the mess and the miscommunication here. I've learned my lesson to be more direct and keep business and casual conversations separate.

And yes, you are a REALLY good artist -- art-wise. I would suggest using something like trello or doodle to keep a bit more organized though.
Oct. 11th, 2017 04:27 pm (UTC)
We have said multiple times that posts are not deleted. If the OP deletes the post we will pull the archive, and upload it again ourselves.

This is your official warning to stop pressuring the OP to delete. You've done so three times. If it happens again, then you will be temporarily banned.


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