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Artist Beware - QuartzYellow

Artist Beware - QuartzYellow
WHO: Pollypolly1323, Babygurlpolly, QuartzYellow, SirenaDiamond

WHERE:
Pollypolly1323 (Second Life)
Hope7614 (Discord)
Babygurlpolly (Twitter)
picarto.tv/QuartzYellow (Picarto.TV)
bugaboosplayhouse.tumblr.com (Tumblr)
www.furaffinity.net/user/babygurlpolly (Fur Affinity)
https://www.patreon.com/QuartzCreations (Patreon)
Kaida#9639 (NEW Discord where shes resuming operation)
SirenaDiamond (Deviantart)
NiraIshani (InkBunny)

WHAT: Scamming of money, lateness on delivering artwork and unfinished commission.

WHEN: Timeline: February 1st, 2017 to August 5th 2017

PROOF:
https://www.dropbox.com/sh/s92p2d73wobf9y5/AACwGV9iTe8KQW8x2VwBEnlNa?dl=0 (For FULL screens)

1-3) Me ordering the commission, asking what I wanted from her, and getting a price, of $30 USD
1, https://www.dropbox.com/s/1ku4qbepjicrkq3/1%29%20asking%20for%20com.png?dl=0
2, https://www.dropbox.com/s/9mhtobltvcu6tgl/2%29%20asking%20for%20com%202.png?dl=0
3, https://www.dropbox.com/s/5hgbw5z4qnafs9e/3%29%20Pricing%20the%20comm.png?dl=0

4) Me asking if I can split the payment up, I had $20 then. She agrees.
4, https://www.dropbox.com/s/f2qpoy7dg4hcllb/4%29%20me%20explaining%20if%20I%20can%20send%2020%20to%20start.png?dl=0

5-7) Were having issues sending the initial $20, but it goes through.
5, https://www.dropbox.com/s/kdw5jmib1ql81c5/5%29%20Having%20issues%20sending%20first%2020.png?dl=0
6, https://www.dropbox.com/s/4glx4mkqv08ne27/6%29%20Having%20issues%20sending%20first%2020%202.png?dl=0
7,https://www.dropbox.com/s/8u8x18iyhxrfvbe/7%29%20Having%20issues%20sending%20first%2020%203.png?dl=0

5.5) She states herself she has multiple paypal accounts, 4 in total.
https://www.dropbox.com/s/thtdo13hpdb0uc8/8%29%20her%20showing%20me%20she%20got%20the%2020.png?dl=0

8) She obtains the first 20, with a confirmation to me.
https://www.dropbox.com/s/thtdo13hpdb0uc8/8%29%20her%20showing%20me%20she%20got%20the%2020.png?dl=0

-A few days pass-
9) She hounds me for the last 10, even-though I've explained when I'm paid.
https://www.dropbox.com/s/8c2ycypi1mmiz7l/9%29%20her%20hounding%20me%20for%20final%2010%20days%20later%20after%20I%20told%20her.png?dl=0

-Little more time-
10-12) I have the final 10 and even reconfirm to her what paypal I need to send it too. in 12 I show the confirmation of it sending to that.
10, https://www.dropbox.com/s/ktj3gypdvbafaib/10%29%20Having%20last%2010%20ready.png?dl=0
11, https://www.dropbox.com/s/9p9ml3hybt5467f/11%29%20Having%20last%2010%20ready%202.png?dl=0
12, https://www.dropbox.com/s/3v4hv7x8cmbsmwl/12%29%20Having%20last%2010%20ready%203.png?dl=0

13 and 14) She claims she never got it. I show the confirmation and transaction ID to show I did, on 13
13, https://www.dropbox.com/s/okzj8qn0cl9p5qw/13%29%20her%20saying%20she%20didnt%20get%20it.png?dl=0
14, https://www.dropbox.com/s/5bwuoqqqbg09ddk/14%29%20her%20saying%20she%20didnt%20get%20it%202.png?dl=0

15) She introduces the idea of me paying an extra 10, and paying me back so I don't lose money
https://www.dropbox.com/s/g9fibm2uncz4us8/15%29%20Her%20introducing%20the%20idea%20sending%20an%20extra%2010%20and%20paying%20me%20back.png?dl=0

16-21) Waiting on it to go through with no results. I even reconfirm that I sent it to her paypals with a screen on 18
16, https://www.dropbox.com/s/2yu4twizhi83zub/16%29%20Waiting%20for%20her%20to%20refresh.png?dl=0
17, https://www.dropbox.com/s/yo4ixads7q88rcb/17%29%20showing%20me%20nothing%20sent%2C%20but%20without%20showing%20me%20the%20paypal%20shes%20on.png?dl=0
18, https://www.dropbox.com/s/jv5ueud2fyyz10l/18%29%20showing%20me%20nothing%20sent%2C%20but%20without%20showing%20me%20the%20paypal%20shes%20on%202.png?dl=0
19, https://www.dropbox.com/s/0gfi4lozt34rb49/19%29%20showing%20me%20nothing%20sent%2C%20but%20without%20showing%20me%20the%20paypal%20shes%20on%203.png?dl=0
20, https://www.dropbox.com/s/a6wpj8hbb0bdujo/20%29%20showing%20me%20nothing%20sent%2C%20but%20without%20showing%20me%20the%20paypal%20shes%20on%204.png?dl=0
21, https://www.dropbox.com/s/kggoxfy0ka0hkou/21%29%20showing%20me%20nothing%20sent%2C%20but%20without%20showing%20me%20the%20paypal%20shes%20on%205.png?dl=0

22-23) I tell her of a plan to wait a few days, then going with the paying extra 10 like she had asked.
22, https://www.dropbox.com/s/y9tnasd6w6ojzte/22%29%20going%20with%20her%20plan.png?dl=0
23, https://www.dropbox.com/s/78q9apmhevfqm64/23%29%20going%20with%20her%20plan%202.png?dl=0

At this point, I was pulled into a group with her Fiance, I sadly no longer have access to this, but in that time she told me to send it to his paypal, (Korokizma, the second invoice states so) She then told me we were golden to start from here. Keeping the "I'll pay you back" talk in mind.
By Request, Here is his permission of inclusion to being here.
https://www.dropbox.com/s/1t81tt9v6tyrdo7/Permission%20of%20Inclusion%20by%20Koro.png?dl=0

She apparently forgot about what I wanted and I had to remind her. As pictures 24 and 25 show.
24. https://www.dropbox.com/s/p4rjawhvr2am3xk/24%29%20her%20forgetting%20the%20comm%20by%20asking%20me%20what%20it%20was%20again.png?dl=0
25, https://www.dropbox.com/s/i8q9j6q65waprdq/25%29%20her%20forgetting%20the%20comm%20by%20asking%20me%20what%20it%20was%20again%202.png?dl=0

Ever since then, I've asked her twice in a voice call for any updates.

Nothing.

Her fiance is also an artist, and a friend of mine. He's asked her to do so for my own sake, she seemed to ignore it all when he did or gets flustered with anger. If needed, I have asked if he would make a comment on his behalf to prove my claims.

She has now told me her new tablet is broken.. again. While I don't have the original picture of her telling me her tablet broke the first time, since it was part of that group I was pulled into. The last Photo in the dropbox shows of it breaking the second time, sorry for lack of context, again I can have backups to this claim within the comments section if mods permit.
https://www.dropbox.com/s/vx1nqce98ljm9xw/tablet%20broken%20proof.png?dl=0 of her tablet being broken

My two invoices with her
First, https://www.dropbox.com/s/qqwy6v9s84yke13/Initial%20Payment%20to%20Polly.png?dl=0

Second, https://www.dropbox.com/s/w5u5xm0rigfhtfu/Secondary%20Payment.png?dl=0

In all good consciousness, I cannot recommend anyone commission her with this in mind. Due to the constant dodging, waiting, and general lack of interest she has in getting her work done.

UPDATE: She has since done my commission and apologized, after we gave her a good kick in the rear to become a better person. She has also thrown in extra art due to me waiting, and her dodging the questions.. That being said, Only time will show if she changes her attitude, and this beware will remain as a reminder of what she -has- done. So that way if someone decides to buy, they can double check her here.

UPDATE 2: She may concurrently be resuming her shady actions, due to her once more piling up on her commissions with little work after weeks of getting them. Her ex has commented below with these notions. I would advise to demand work done with a watermark if you're insistent on her work, to pay when complete so she doesn't take money without anything done.

UPDATE 3: She now has a new discord, and has resumed scamming others. Due to this, I'm adding it to the top of the page and in the comments below to confirm she has resumed activities I shall link another article as of 8/20/18

Update 4 She as opened a new DA, can confirm this as she admits it's herself in a journal
https://www.deviantart.com/sirenadiamond/journal/Confession-760632890
added this to here for reference so she can't hide

Update 5 Added a new Inkbunny, since shes trying to change her name. However her information still shows it's her. https://inkbunny.net/NiraIshani
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Comments

( 24 comments — Leave a comment )
Rachael Walters
Jul. 25th, 2017 08:59 am (UTC)
So many red-flags, why does she have like 4 paypals to begin with? that is just fishy IMO

I hope she bets your commission done and not rushed but with all this hassle I could of told them to not bother and refund/chargeback because she seems unprofessional specially hounding you for the last payment when you already explained it.

I question how they can break their tablet twice in a short time even if it was a new one how careless can you be? just too many bad-vibes off her actions alone.
sebth1
Jul. 25th, 2017 10:45 am (UTC)
Indeed, I gave her the benefit of the doubt at times since she -was- my friend.

But every time I mentioned my work it was excuse after excuse.
I could believe the tablet being broken the first time, but to get a new one, for it to break super fast, yeah no.

I just can't buy she never got my 10, and I truly feel swindled by her.
I hope she does my work as well, cause I've waited long enough and for her to get pissy over people asking "Are you going to do your work?" When asking for more comms on the side is repulsive in all honesty.

In all I mainly just want the money back at this point, Or at least the extra 10 I sent her and the comm.
She owes me that much in the least.
jessibean
Jul. 25th, 2017 01:08 pm (UTC)
Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't having more than one paypal account against paypal's tos? Even if it's not, that's fishy as hell - especially the part about the extra $10. I would have bailed right then and there!
laughsatthunder
Jul. 25th, 2017 01:27 pm (UTC)
Very much so, yes. How she's been able to get four is beyond me.
sebth1
Jul. 25th, 2017 02:06 pm (UTC)
Sadly I was dumb, and wanted to see if my trust in her as a friend would follow through. So I wanted to believe her when she told me "I'd pay you back the extra 10"

Either way, What happened, happened. My own fault for allowing it to get so far, but I'm not letting her mess with others.

Already know two other people who've been waiting for just as long if not more than I.
teekchan
Jul. 25th, 2017 08:16 pm (UTC)
You can have two different types of accounts, like one personal and one premium. At least where I live. No more than two, and not to the same type.
Olivia Raum
Jul. 25th, 2017 03:08 pm (UTC)
Are you out of the paypal chargeback period?
sebth1
Jul. 25th, 2017 10:03 pm (UTC)
I am.
teekchan
Jul. 25th, 2017 08:18 pm (UTC)
I would chargeback the second (and third???) payments, and try to on the first of $20.

If you have a confirmation for the second payment (with her name on it), theres absolutely no way she didnt get it and was lying.
sebth1
Jul. 25th, 2017 10:06 pm (UTC)
As far as I can tell I'm out of the chargeback time frame (that and I honestly dont know how to do so.)
teekchan
Jul. 27th, 2017 06:53 am (UTC)
If its under 120 days you can still do it!
sebth1
Jul. 27th, 2017 07:18 am (UTC)
Pretty positive Im past 120 days, considering this was back in Feb, to now.
the payments are past those times.
counter_serum
Jul. 28th, 2017 12:52 pm (UTC)
I filed a dispute on a payment issued in February of this year just this month. When I went to Paypal to dispute the transaction, I was told I had until August 12th to file for any issues. If you go to the specific transaction and find the little link that asks if you've got an issue, it should tell you what date you have until you can no longer file a dispute or claim.
celestinaketzia
Jul. 28th, 2017 12:57 pm (UTC)
Chargeback time is 180 days, but you can't issue a chargeback on anything sent via "friends and family". That option is not meant for business, and any artist that tells you to use it is not only purposefully attempting to dodge fees but removing consumer protection from your transaction.
rayesesshyfan
Jul. 25th, 2017 10:36 pm (UTC)
Since you paid with your back, contact them and try to get your money back. Explain the situation to them and if needed, show the proof.
rules1
Jul. 26th, 2017 11:15 pm (UTC)
It's best if you email or call PayPal. The artist has broken at least two of their User Agreement rules that I can see reading the screenshots, and PayPal will take action if found that they indeed, broke them. They can take some measures against the user if found guilty and one of those actions is a reverse payment (meaning...you can potently get your money back).

I would also recommend to never go through "Friends and family" for any payment of a good. Not only because it's against the User Agreement but if you had gone through "Goods and services" you could have made a claim on it which could have helped get your money back even after the 120 days had passed but not through "friends and family."
Hopefully, this helps you.
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whoop_zi
Mar. 5th, 2018 06:47 pm (UTC)
mod comment
This is being screened as these are some pretty heavy accusations without proof, as well as an unrelated third party. You will still be able to see your comment once it's screened, so please do not delete it.
sebth1
Mar. 5th, 2018 08:30 pm (UTC)
Re: mod comment
Hi, I did state in the original post who he was and what was stated as well.
So he's related, he just finally made a comment here.

just an FYI
celestinaketzia
Mar. 5th, 2018 08:32 pm (UTC)
Re: mod comment
Your update is not appropriate for this community, as it involves third parties. Those individuals may submit their own beware. Please remove the update from your post.
celestinaketzia
Mar. 5th, 2018 08:34 pm (UTC)
Mod comment
Ah, given that your post has been resolved the tags have been changed to reflect as such.
William Dean Luke
Mar. 25th, 2018 01:15 am (UTC)
taking more than a year for a single-character piece, ignoring messages, making excuses
This artist has, so far, swindled me out of 32$ on a piece I paid for in February of LAST YEAR, and has made excuse after excuse as to why it's not done after showing me a half-finished sketch of the work...spats with the boyfriend, "just got a new tablet" excuse she's apparently used more than once...I've told her, as politely as I can, that if I don't get my art by next Saturday, I'll be putting out a AB on her...she then messaged me immediately saying that she was closing all of her accounts and would refund my money next week...


WE'LL SEE.
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celestinaketzia
Aug. 20th, 2018 07:27 pm (UTC)
Re: More people scammed, new discord mentioned
Howdy. This is being screened for proxy. This user is welcome to make a post of their own.

Screened posts are invisible to everyone but you and the moderators, so please don't delete.
sebth1
Aug. 20th, 2018 07:42 pm (UTC)
Re: More people scammed, new discord mentioned
Thats fine, I was mainly using it to show her new discord since its mentioned in the comments

Went looking and saw it so I screened
William Dean Luke
Aug. 23rd, 2018 02:26 pm (UTC)
She's back under a new DA name "SirenaDiamond"
SHe's back..She scammed me, too...made the same excuses as OP mentioned..I commissioned her almost 2 years ago now, and was promised a refund or completed work within days, never happened, then she deleted all but her twitter, which I hounded her on periodically to do what she owed, and she never responded.

She's now posted an "Apology" and a "Promise" to pay back what she owes or finish the work...Not holding my breath.

https://www.deviantart.com/sirenadiamond/journal/Confession-760632890
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