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Who: Ailuranthropy (appears to do business as “FoxFeatherStudios” according to PayPal)

Where: https://www.furaffinity.net/user/ailuranthropy

What: Digital Art – 2 Figure, shaded, Valentine’s Day-specific multi-user YCH

When: Discussed and paid January 30th, 2017. Problems and delays began almost immediately and continued in frequency well beyond the holiday.

Explain: The original commission was purchased on January 30th after a brief exchange via comments and notes. Shortly after began a long series of purported medical and housing “emergencies” that stacked in number. Meanwhile, Ailuranthropy continued taking in numerous new commissions while failing promise after promise to complete existing ones, several times specifically mentioning the Valentine’s Day pieces.

I had sent three separate notes over FA looking for feedback. The first note was replied to, but did not answer my question. The second and third have not been opened or read as of June 22nd, 2017, suggesting the artist is either that far behind, falsely indicating progress where it doesn’t exist, or is outright ignoring me. Since they claim to have made progress in answering notes and publically stated they will address all of them within a time period that they’ve failed to meet, it suggests either of the latter case and deliberate negligence.

Ailuranthropy runs frequent streams on Picarto where she often takes in new commissions. She mandates that no viewer is allowed to ask about owed artwork, or request status updates about them in the chat channel of the stream. Requests to actually get that information result in other users browbeating the customer with “channel rules” until they leave.

A journal was posted on June 1st, 2017 that I found of particular concern. They wrote about their plans regarding owed work and made an “offer” to everyone who commissioned them before April 2017 that they have an option of a “full refund,” but that they won’t honor it “until probably August.” They say they will continue to take on new commissions while in-stream, and that the income for that is meant to pay for their living arrangement they are trying to set up, as well as paying for refunds of old ones. They specifically state “ME TAKING ON COMMISSIONS DOES NOT MEAN I AM IGNORING YOURS.” They also indicate that they will be expanding on the Valentine’s Day pieces and no longer using the base or template. Rather, they claim they will be creating new, unique poses for each customer.

However, they also specifically made a point to tell people that PayPal is their sole and primary “bank” and are concerned about their account being flagged. This suggests to me that they are likely well aware of the limitations on how PayPal disputes work. I found it particularly troublesome to be asked to wait beyond my dispute window, where I would lose the bulk of my ability to try to resolve this issue.

Given PayPal’s limitation of 6 months to file a dispute, and that the invoice was paid in January, we were quickly coming up to the deadline to escalate this issue. With my last two notes remaining unread, filing a dispute on PayPal was my only remaining bargaining tool. They replied within one hour to the PayPal dispute and asked for my FA username so they could remove me from their project list and blacklist me from any future business. I provided the username as requested, and asked that she update me when I’ve been removed and that she process the dispute accordingly, as she was effectively stating she would not deliver the product that was paid for. After 48 hours without a reply, I escalated the issue directly to PayPal to handle. PayPal contacted Ailuranthropy and a refund was provided within an hour.


Screenshots of payment confirmation:

Screenshots of Unread Notes:

Contents of unread notes:

Screenshots of PayPal dispute interaction:

Screenshot of PayPal Escalation result:

Screenshot of only reply via Notes received since piece went past due:
Artist's beware has moved!
Do NOT repost your old bewares. They are being archived.


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Kerra Su
Jul. 7th, 2017 04:40 pm (UTC)
I'm glad, too, but I wish it didn't require filing a PayPal dispute and claim to force it to happen.

Didn't have much choice with my notes being ignored, though.
Jul. 3rd, 2017 03:30 pm (UTC)
Wow, that is completely unacceptable. Beware well warranted, I'm glad you were able to get a refund.
Jul. 4th, 2017 03:04 am (UTC)
You did the right thing. Never let the dispute window close due to an artist's excuses.
Kerra Su
Jul. 7th, 2017 04:45 pm (UTC)
Yeah, excuses are irrelevant, really. It was a paid agreement. They either meet it or they refund it. The reasons "why" don't matter at all.
Jul. 7th, 2017 03:35 am (UTC)
I was honestly waiting for people to come forward.
I too had issues but eventually combined my Black Friday commissions into one in-stream comm. I really love it, just wish it didn't take so long to find a solution
Kerra Su
Jul. 7th, 2017 04:43 pm (UTC)
I found it very curious that I hadn't seen any public complaints about them or their practices. I knew there's no way I could be the only one given the frequent journal excuses and the way she handled it.

I'm glad you were able to find a resolution you liked. I've had something from her before, and it was a super adorable piece... but this was just too much.

Hopefully others will speak out about their issues, too.
Jul. 10th, 2017 08:30 am (UTC)
Same here, I commissioned a headshot way back and it got done fairly fast, the next comms however did not :/

Oh yes totally agree. My paypal window unfortunately passed so I couldnt gun for a refund like you did. Eventually getting tired of the ignored notes, constant excuse journals and the like I decided to combine what I had purchased to a single stream comm. If that didn't get done I would have gone in with a beware. Thankfully I got it, but it's so sad to see all these other people practically being scammed :c

I hope Ailu cleans up her act, I won't be commissioning again until I see her work ethics change.
Jul. 9th, 2017 06:20 pm (UTC)
I'm so glad someone has finally talked about this artist here. I was honestly debating making an Artists Beware post about them myself with my experience and what I have seen them do with other users. For me the trouble was with the same themed commissions, only I somehow got mine and on Valentine's Day too, but they made a couple of errors which I pointed out and they agreed to fix... yeah been five months now and those two-minute fixes are still hanging in their Trello queue despite me making a reminder about them at first through note and then on their complaints journal (two months ago!) yet being ignored. They also never sent the original file of my commission. The one that was uploaded was extremely poor quality so, yes that matters too. At this point I'm fearing that they've just scraped the files and my inquiry will never be fulfilled.

However. Very happy to hear that you managed to get your refund and disputed it when you did. I'm honestly hoping that they begin to realise that they simply cannot be doing this for a living and just try and get a real secure job so that they can send refunds out faster and generally be more stable in life. Because eventually people are just going to stop commissioning them with this wreck of a business.
Kerra Su
Jul. 10th, 2017 06:12 pm (UTC)
Ooph, I'm sorry to hear that. Incorrect products are as bad as unfinished ones, arguably worse than undelivered. I -hate- unresolved mistakes, and I've had some artists not provide updates or hand-off verifications before finalizing commissions. I don't know where they get the idea that they can do things however they want, free from the accuracy of the characters involved or the desires of the commissioner. It's appalling, really.

Frankly, I've come to the decision that I'm going to avoid commissioned work that's prepaid unless the artist provides clear rules and regulations about when and how pieces get approved. I'd rather not prepay at all, to be honest, but the artists that work that way are few and far between. In those few, the artist typicallyprovides rough sketches to ensure design is as expected, and you pay somewhere between that and final delivery with updates to "sign off" on between each major step.
Aug. 29th, 2017 04:01 pm (UTC)
Thank god this is finally coming out.
I am glad to see someone writing an artist beware, I will be posting one by the end of this evening to the end of this week if I do not hear anything back from the artist.

I have been waiting a year for a finished product.

A. Year

For a badge that has been finished since August 2016 - I have been openly ignored, told I am not being ignored, and refusing to give some sort of update without cause for irritation, and sounding annoyed.

By all means, I understand life happens, for heavens sakes, I know that more than anyone here but do not treat a client, someone who threw hard earned money at you just to be treated like garbage.
Kerra Su
Oct. 17th, 2017 03:58 am (UTC)
Re: Thank god this is finally coming out.
How did things turn out? Did you hear from the artist? Are things still waiting without update? Could you let us know here, or post a new submission for your own case?
May. 3rd, 2018 07:29 pm (UTC)
Still happening
Hopefully more people see this, but this artist is STILL scamming people. They consistently took commissions up front till just a few months ago when they decided to "wipe the slate clean" and toss hundreds of outstanding commissions onto a "refund list" with the actual refunds coming at a complete snails pace.

They've recently decided to move places and apparently can't focus on their backlog so I'm guessing nobody will be getting a refund anytime soon.

Avoid at all costs.

Edited at 2018-05-03 07:29 pm (UTC)
Sep. 12th, 2018 09:34 am (UTC)
I have commissioned this artist in the beginning of December 2017 for a pic I wanted to gift at the end of the month as a birthday gift + one more pic for a friend of mine who did just get a Sona. Of course I didn't receive either of them.
On February the artist started the already mentioned refund list who has people from 2016 in it but I don't see the list going anywhere in half a year that's up even if I see a lot of art being uploaded.
So I sent a note asking for updates about the refunds and... About one day later the artist starts posting a bunch of headshots, reads my note but... No reply.
Since it's almost a year that I've commissioned this artist and it's starting to look more and more suspicious I've decided to post here too since it looks like the only way to get your refund is going public

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