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Adoptable Discussion Post

Howdy everyone!

We’ve started to see an increase in the number of questions and bewares involving adoptables so it’s time for a discussion post. We’d love to hear your thoughts on adoptable transactions. Some things we’d love to hear about:

-Reselling, Trading, and Gifting. What do you allow as a seller? What do you avoid as a buyer? Does the type of art being resold (one adopt, an adopt with new pieces of art, or an adopt that has been made into a fursuit) change the way you feel about this?

-Design Rights. If a new piece of reference art is created for an adopt can the customer now sell the design? What rights do you think an artist has to a design they create?

Those are only a few questions to get a conversation going. Please feel free to leave any and all thoughts you have about adopts as long as you:
- Don’t name artists, species, or customers by name. This isn’t a beware post. Keep it anonymous.
- Try to keep the conversation on the transactions around adoptables and not to the concept of adoptables themselves. People love adoptables! We want to know your thoughts on the business side.
- Keep it civil.

We look forward to your discussion!

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malibupuppy1997
Mar. 3rd, 2017 02:55 am (UTC)
Agreed, I've never been too fond of artists in general who had very strict rules or no refund policies or like if you're rude to me I'll just keep the money and block you.

I've seen adopt people like this and I'd never buy anything from them and I've actually just seen a fursuit maker who said they would sue you if you used one of the suits you bought from them in a sexual way or fetish thing as damage to their reputation. Which is kind of crazy to me. I agree, once you sell something and give it away, there's no telling where it'll go what will be happen and you take that risk whenever you selling something.

I think it has a lot to do with artists not wanting their reputation to be ruined but I also have a little thing I where I think they actually may be forcing their own opinions on what their designs should be used as a little too much. An opinion is an opinion and a business is a business, you need to be realistic.
I also think that once you buy something you should be able to do whatever you want with it, either that be hardcore stuff, then that's their right. If you're so scared about it, don't sell it as you said. I agree that maybe not letting people take credit for what you did is understandable.

I've also run into artists who won't even let you repost their art onto your profile even with credit. It was the worst. I just don't get why artists have these weird rules. ( art that you commissioned from them I mean, obviously ).

that's my view.

Edited at 2017-03-03 02:58 am (UTC)
celestinaketzia
Mar. 3rd, 2017 02:59 am (UTC)
I've also run into artists who won't even let you repost their art onto your profile even with credit.

That's the default to copyright, and not a rule. Reposting rights is given away in this fandom as a courtesy, but it isn't a standard by any means.
malibupuppy1997
Mar. 29th, 2017 06:52 pm (UTC)
You're right.

I like your profile picture btw, I've always liked Jace.
magedragonfire
Mar. 3rd, 2017 06:23 am (UTC)
Yeeeah, the reposting thing isn't weird at all. Copyright law grants the artist automatic rights to display the original piece of art and allows them to control who else can display it.

Additionally, the law treats physical and digital goods quite differently. You can display the physical art print you buy as you like; not so with digital art. It might feel like the same situation, but it ends up being pretty different because of the amount of copies potentially in circulation.
malibupuppy1997
Mar. 29th, 2017 06:58 pm (UTC)
Hmm, I don't think I was saying I think it's weird why I can't law wise, but I'm saying it's weird why they would have the rules set in place personally.

Like, why wouldn't an artist let you repost something they made for you? I think it's weird. Though my experience is only in the anime and furry fandom, could be different.
I get it - while not getting it.
celestinaketzia
Mar. 29th, 2017 08:29 pm (UTC)
People sharing commissions that they get is unique to these fandoms. The law was made with a more broad scope, and even some anime folks don't "get" why I would want to repost anything.
malibupuppy1997
Mar. 30th, 2017 01:17 am (UTC)
Yeah, I noticed that.

I guess I wouldn't "get" that either if I wasn't apart of it.

I like sharing it because I like seeing peoples characters a lot sometimes, and if they have a gallery for the character I could easily access it, even in favorites would be easier, I guess too but even that can get mixed up. Since fursonas/oc's are easier to see than typing in the name of the character, and getting mixed results depending on the website.

that's my reason atleast. Do you like sharing it? Do you not?

Sorry if any of my words come off as rude. I'm just generally curious.

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