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Adoptable Discussion Post

Howdy everyone!

We’ve started to see an increase in the number of questions and bewares involving adoptables so it’s time for a discussion post. We’d love to hear your thoughts on adoptable transactions. Some things we’d love to hear about:

-Reselling, Trading, and Gifting. What do you allow as a seller? What do you avoid as a buyer? Does the type of art being resold (one adopt, an adopt with new pieces of art, or an adopt that has been made into a fursuit) change the way you feel about this?

-Design Rights. If a new piece of reference art is created for an adopt can the customer now sell the design? What rights do you think an artist has to a design they create?

Those are only a few questions to get a conversation going. Please feel free to leave any and all thoughts you have about adopts as long as you:
- Don’t name artists, species, or customers by name. This isn’t a beware post. Keep it anonymous.
- Try to keep the conversation on the transactions around adoptables and not to the concept of adoptables themselves. People love adoptables! We want to know your thoughts on the business side.
- Keep it civil.

We look forward to your discussion!

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venatorrooc
Mar. 2nd, 2017 09:32 pm (UTC)
Can't reply to the other comment but I'll add this anyways:

I realize how shitty that came off and I apologize for saying it - I wasn't really thinking when I made that comment. Sorry about that.

Though I do still would like to know what goes on when the seller buys a base from an artist, creates a design with it, and then disallows the buyer from reselling it using that base+design. The base isn't the seller's own art so what happens?
The original artist still holds copyright for the lines but allows people to sell designs using the base, so how do it work? Would the design then be a collab of sorts?
Fralea Comms
Mar. 2nd, 2017 10:25 pm (UTC)
Don't quote me but I think legally it would be considered 'derivative work'. Which I think means that the colorist could ask you to not use any art that they specifically colored, but wouldn't prevent you getting the same base/lines (if they were free to use, or if you paid for them) and recoloring them with the same design yourself.
spartanwerewolf
Mar. 3rd, 2017 10:44 am (UTC)
No worries. Personally, I spend more time on the design/colouring of characters than I do on the linework for them, so the idea that colouring premade bases somehow means less work bothers me. Not everyone can draw, but drawing shouldn't be a requirement for exercising creativity.

I use both premade bases and my own, and when I use someone else's lines, I mark it as a collab, myself. If you buy a base, you're only buying the right to use it, and you still have to abide by the rules of the person you got/bought it from; you're not buying the ability to allow *others* to use it.

It's a bit like painting miniatures, I suppose. You're buying the blanks that someone else has made, but still putting in the work on designing and painting it.

I'm guessing it would be considered derivative or collaborative work, but I'm honestly not entirely sure if both would have copyright claims or if it'd default to the line artist or what. It's actually a really good question.

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