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Adoptable Discussion Post

Howdy everyone!

We’ve started to see an increase in the number of questions and bewares involving adoptables so it’s time for a discussion post. We’d love to hear your thoughts on adoptable transactions. Some things we’d love to hear about:

-Reselling, Trading, and Gifting. What do you allow as a seller? What do you avoid as a buyer? Does the type of art being resold (one adopt, an adopt with new pieces of art, or an adopt that has been made into a fursuit) change the way you feel about this?

-Design Rights. If a new piece of reference art is created for an adopt can the customer now sell the design? What rights do you think an artist has to a design they create?

Those are only a few questions to get a conversation going. Please feel free to leave any and all thoughts you have about adopts as long as you:
- Don’t name artists, species, or customers by name. This isn’t a beware post. Keep it anonymous.
- Try to keep the conversation on the transactions around adoptables and not to the concept of adoptables themselves. People love adoptables! We want to know your thoughts on the business side.
- Keep it civil.

We look forward to your discussion!

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Mar. 2nd, 2017 10:53 am (UTC)
As a buyer, I can't justify to myself buying anything with any strings attached now. I USE to be in with that whole Closed Species stuff, but at this point in my career I need to have the ability to use my characters for commercial works and not have other artists start a lynch mob set out to destroy my reputation because I used a character that I supposedly "own" for whatever the hell I liked. I have one or two characters left over from those days, because I couldn't part with them, and at least one of them I've redesigned to not be "theirs" anymore, so I'm going to use him for whatever the hell I like and if they get pissy with me... well that's just too bad for them.

As a seller, because of my experience and feelings as a buyer, I allow buyers to do whatever the hell they like with my designs once bought -- with the stipulation that they TELL ME when they intend to sell them / when they have sold them, so that I can keep tabs on who's using my artwork and not jump on somebody for theft. Not that I'm sure I'd even notice if that were the case...

One of the biggest issue I have is that SOME (not all) second-hand buyers think that buying artwork that comes with a character means buying the COPYRIGHT to that character. That's part of the reason I want people to TELL ME when my art exchanges hands with a character: I want to make it absolutely clear to the new owner that I own the copyright to my work. I sincerely hope this becomes basic knowledge soon, but at the moment, Joe Schmoe doesn't have any clue how Copyright works, so it's still something I worry about.
Mar. 2nd, 2017 04:16 pm (UTC)
Copyright does not apply to characters or designs, only to the artwork you drew (or wrote, or sculpted, etc).

The design itself has no legal protection.

I am curious what you believe the copyright on a character means.
Mar. 6th, 2017 05:27 pm (UTC)
I actually meant to say "One of the biggest issue I have is that SOME (not all) second-hand buyers think that buying artwork that comes with a character means buying the COPYRIGHT to that *ARTWORK.", not "copyright to that character", lol. I was tired.


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