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Adoptable Discussion Post

Howdy everyone!

We’ve started to see an increase in the number of questions and bewares involving adoptables so it’s time for a discussion post. We’d love to hear your thoughts on adoptable transactions. Some things we’d love to hear about:

-Reselling, Trading, and Gifting. What do you allow as a seller? What do you avoid as a buyer? Does the type of art being resold (one adopt, an adopt with new pieces of art, or an adopt that has been made into a fursuit) change the way you feel about this?

-Design Rights. If a new piece of reference art is created for an adopt can the customer now sell the design? What rights do you think an artist has to a design they create?

Those are only a few questions to get a conversation going. Please feel free to leave any and all thoughts you have about adopts as long as you:
- Don’t name artists, species, or customers by name. This isn’t a beware post. Keep it anonymous.
- Try to keep the conversation on the transactions around adoptables and not to the concept of adoptables themselves. People love adoptables! We want to know your thoughts on the business side.
- Keep it civil.

We look forward to your discussion!

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sableantelope
Mar. 1st, 2017 03:17 pm (UTC)
Reading the replies here, I feel like what I kept harping on in regards to the legal status of adoptables has finally started to disseminate through out the community. So happy for that. I'm so glad people finally understand that there's just no protection legally for them if they chose to spend and make money in this niche of furry art. I can see ways you could try and argue it, but it'd be such a hard row to hoe.
The really important part to take away is that individual pieces of art of a character have protections, the character's design do not.
(You could get into a messy 17 U.S.C. discussion on this, but better not do that)

I can't see any basis, morally or legal wise, for the rules people try to make about how/when consumer can go onto to resell design. Honestly if you want to see*(sell, sorry) that design and benefit from that sale you lose the right to tell the buyer what they can do with it. That's just the way it works when you sell something. I just can't wrap my head around that one at all. If someone wants to mimic licensing of software but with the adoptable design, well, have fun with writing out that end user agreement.


So as someone known to be not at all fond of this area of the fandom, I will just say that FurAffinity has chosen to build into their TOS protections for individual designs so if you want to do business in this side of things doing it on FA is a good idea. It gives you and your buyer the most protections. (though be aware FA can't stop someone from copying/unathourised use of a sold design, they can just stop that person from using FA to do so)



Edited at 2017-03-01 03:18 pm (UTC)
scourge8574
Mar. 1st, 2017 11:21 pm (UTC)
There an actual TOS for this on FA? That's a shock. Can you link me.
malibupuppy1997
Mar. 3rd, 2017 02:50 am (UTC)
Yup, most things/websites have a TOS or TOS like agreement or user agreement, just like artists do. Mainly to protect themselves.

https://www.furaffinity.net/tos

scourge8574
Mar. 3rd, 2017 03:18 am (UTC)
Actually I was talking about a TOS that specifically talked about abopts. I already new about that one.
celestinaketzia
Mar. 3rd, 2017 03:01 am (UTC)
I went looking for it, because it used to be in their ToS or AuP. It doesn't seem like the specific clause got transferred from the wiki FA had with their ToS/ AuP. But they will respond to complaints of someone using your character without your consent.
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celestinaketzia
Mar. 3rd, 2017 03:06 am (UTC)
Going to go ahead and screen your duplicate comment. Please don't delete it!

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