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FurAffinity fursuit scammer

WHO: Mew / Xionica (fursuit character name)

WHERE: https://www.furaffinity.net/user/mew | https://www.furaffinity.net/user/xionica/

WHAT: Fursuit partial (being resold) - fursuit shown on their Xionica page.

WHEN: Around March / April 2016 is when I first paid on it. July 9th was my last payment.

PROOF: Everything is chronologically placed in my dropbox but I'll also post the links chronologically through the explanation as well. https://www.dropbox.com/sh/7obu4yppo7mpeoc/AABEqW-37KC12Re0dkVVD1eDa?dl=0

Proof that Mew and Xionica are the same person:

https://www.dropbox.com/s/r09u3mcg7kz3df4/proofxionica1.png?dl=0
https://www.dropbox.com/s/5qcv6ag4prt7ssy/proofxionica1-2.png?dl=0
https://www.dropbox.com/s/od0mn2v4b0gwu4t/proofxionica2.png?dl=0
https://www.dropbox.com/s/8w0zjqsaksgoeh6/proofxionica3.png?dl=0
https://www.dropbox.com/s/4glw9wo9b0zb8bp/proofxionica4.png?dl=0

She sent me art of the character that wasn't even posted on Xionica's account. She said that's where the fursuit was hosted and that she would sell account, char art, and the FurAffinity profile along with purchase.

This proof shows that I made payments on it and that it was to her paypal she specified:

https://www.dropbox.com/s/bvs314m94rqpr26/proof1.png?dl=0
https://www.dropbox.com/s/ya9g567bal6x32x/proof2.png?dl=0
https://www.dropbox.com/s/zffc0bfpv3o68x1/proof3.png?dl=0
https://www.dropbox.com/s/n5yz7egwakzzfu2/proof4.png?dl=0
https://www.dropbox.com/s/gbdp8rktycbmpot/proof8.png?dl=0 - This was my final payment.

EXPLAIN: I was scammed out of 107$ on a fursuit partial, being sold to me by Mew

The story behind this: Originally I agreed to buy this fursuit partial from this person that I considered a friend because I wanted to help them out with bills + the design was VERY well detailed for only 500$ + extra art included. You can see the fursuit in question on her Xionica account.

This was back before I had a job, having no means to pay for this fursuit but Mew told me I could do it if I just posted commissions / adopts / etc and eventually it would pile up to equal 500$. Every payment for the commissions was sent directly to Mew through her paypal email. It was to avoid paying a double fee for paypal. She was very adamant about making sure I paid her buyer's fee for her which is against Paypal's TOS but I thought since she was my friend it was okay. Because of this, most of my payments are either small increments of 5-20$ or were sent directly via commissioners to avoid taking so much out of fees. In total, from my actual paypal, I only sent her 9$ from my own account. This is an image showing she was calculating the fees she was receiving from my payments into the total purchase: https://www.dropbox.com/s/p7ubkcyszn826tx/proof7.png?dl=0 - "I'll let you know your total once I see the fees"

That's when all the shit started happening in my life. Lots of my adopts and commissions wouldn't sell, highschool graduation, college, then medical stuff and I lost my job 2-3 months after being hired so now I'm disabled. But I always kept her updated to let her know what was happening and that I was just going through a rough patch in my life. https://www.dropbox.com/s/723gvbl09uhnjhg/proof9.png?dl=0 - as we were friends and I was helping her out because she needed money for bills, I thought she would understand.

But then she sent me a message on Skype, January 30th of this year - saying it had been a YEAR since I paid.. which was a flat out lie, the last payment was 7 months ago on the proof images of 107$. https://www.dropbox.com/s/7oahsay2cmjxg9v/proof11.png?dl=0

She sent that to my skype probably knowing I was having skype issues because I talked about it often via statuses and I hadn't been online in forever (and MIA due to medical stuff) because I just couldn't sign on. At least 2 months of inactivity via my new skype. Plus she added my new skype from my status that told people my old skype wasn't working. https://www.dropbox.com/s/gtwae9im4w4dnx7/proof10.png?dl=0 She didn't bother to message me on FA or Toyhou.se or try to get into contact with me, choosing the most convenient way for her not to get a response. About 4 days after that message, I remembered about the partial and contacted her on Toyhou.se to let her know I was still interested. https://www.dropbox.com/s/1a0wd49julhef9w/proof12.png?dl=0 I asked if she had discord. It was obvious I didn't see her skype message at this time. Instead of telling me THERE about the fact that she wanted to resell the fursuit, she just curtly said "No, I do not." And tried to cut off all communication. https://www.dropbox.com/s/g627j3bphjymkq9/proof13.png?dl=0 She never responded to my second note where I said I would try to get skype working and that I really wanted to discuss the fursuit payment. https://www.dropbox.com/s/qof5t18qf9g42ex/proof14.png?dl=0

She read it but never responded. https://www.dropbox.com/s/0e0ik0yrtzta7ed/readnote2.png?dl=0

So I finally got Skype working today and what do you know? I stumble upon the message. https://www.dropbox.com/s/z2runvyncuqyqw6/proof15.png?dl=0 So I responded asking her to refund my 107$ payment if she was going to resell the fursuit, since I'm not getting my product. NO WHERE in our conversations was a deadline mentioned where I had to pay in full by, no downpayment agreed to.. it was just one friend slowly inching towards their goal to help another friend and to buy a fursuit.

And guess what? SHE UNFRIENDS ME ON SKYPE 30 MIN LATER, as you can see by the "messaging disabled" on the bottom of that screencap.

Perplexed, I messaged her on FA, telling her that I WILL force refund the payments or sue her over this matter. You can't just take 107$ of my money and run off with it. https://www.dropbox.com/s/qmcmv7y636wl81k/proof16.png?dl=0 I also suggested that if she didn't have the money to pay, she could trade me a character I saw on her Toyhou.se that would be worth the price (plus she was selling it anyways) and I could come to an agreement after that, because it was some form of product. She read that never responded, has been active uploading art so I'm done. https://www.dropbox.com/s/2a8pdbnvrtjiuhd/readnote1.png?dl=0

So after this TL;DR.. Mew is a scammer. She took 107$ of my money that was put down for a fursuit, and she ran off with it. She refuses to respond to me so it's clear I have to take this matter into my own hands with the public. I'm gonna post this in hopes that she'll never be able to scam anyone else out of their money again and so that maybe, just maybe she'll give me back my money or gives me something of equal value.. because I don't think this will settle well with a paypal dispute, even with the proof images from skype because all the money was sent directly from my commission / adopt buyers.

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spartanwerewolf
Feb. 19th, 2017 03:03 am (UTC)
She does need to refund you if she's reselling the fursuit, yes. But she's well within her rights to do so; you haven't made a payment in 6+ months. But yeah, if she's reselling it, she needs to refund you.

However

I'm not really sure how you think you'll be able to force refunds on a bunch of transactions that didn't even go through your account- you said you paid only $9 from your own account. Even if you weren't well outside paypal's dispute window- you are- you'd still only get that $9 back.

You can't funnel funds via other accounts to skirt fees and then expect those funds returned to you. You'd be lucky to not get your own account suspended for trying to dip paypal's TOS.

I think you're probably SOL unless she's stricken with remorse and decides to refund you. Small claims has to be filed in her state, if you choose to go that route. The expense of travel to file/pursue in small claims will likely total more than the lost funds. Unfortunate, but there it is.
tokiva
Feb. 19th, 2017 05:03 am (UTC)
I agree - she's well within her rights to resell the fursuit since I wasn't paying. I don't mind that at all. I just want my money back if she's reselling the fursuit because it's wrong to take my money and run away with it.

At the time I was buying the fursuit, I was still very new to paypal and was asking Mew about everything I could do regarding it. I was actually using my dad's paypal account because I didn't have a bank account of my own still being a minor. I had no idea at the time that it was wrong. So this stuff is all very new to me and I'm frazzled, frantically searching for some sort of way to get my money back. I'll gladly be taking any sort of suggestions for what I can do in this situation regarding paypal.

Though I do have a question for anyone that knows more law than I do:

If I do take her to court over this, since I am disabled I can ask for a fee waiver, right? All I'd have to pay for is the cost to travel, and I can ask the judge to order her to pay a sanction since she's doing illegal and unethical activity and she's the one that has a job / disposable income and would be able to afford to pay that. At least, this is what I am understanding so far. But I'm still very new to how court works so I want people to correct me on these statements if I'm wrong.

I think I have some pretty solid evidence based on these screencaps alone to show that I sent the payments and that she avoided paying me back so I could fight it very easily in court, even without an attorney - so that would make my court costs a lot less.

Edited at 2017-02-19 05:06 am (UTC)
kayla_la
Feb. 19th, 2017 05:49 am (UTC)
MOD COMMENT
Hi! While we like to help as much as we can, we can not give legal advice like this as we try to keep the community from getting too involved in legal matters. We recommend contacting a lawyer to ask these questions to instead, and I'll be freezing this.
mewcoatimundi
Feb. 19th, 2017 09:04 pm (UTC)
My Response Part 1
http://www.furaffinity.net/user/mew/

Hello, I'm Mew. I'd like to defend myself in this case, which I'm incredibly confused by. Before I begin, I am more than happy to work this out with the OP, and I have been since the start which is apparent with how patient I've been. I'd like to state that I do not have any chat logs because I removed Tokiva's old contact when they created a new Skype account to supposedly correct their Skype issues, and their new account when I deleted their contact because I was moving to Telegram. Tokiva has not put the first half of our conversation from their old Skype account, where our deal started. I stated that shipping would not be included in the $500, and the many promises from Tokiva of payments that I never received making this an incomplete case and a lot of evidence is not included that would prove their claims.

Let's start from the beginning. This fursuit was originally raffled off in a giveaway I did about a year and a half ago. The winner never gave me their address to ship it to, and after multiple attempts/months of contact, I decided to keep the suit. Later on, I met Tokiva. We became friends relatively quickly. Around that time period, I was living with my mother who had kicked me out for three months, and then asked me to come back. She then started being more serious about it and threatended to kick me out, and was asking for $1000 a month to allow me to stay. I wasn't even making that amount of money at the time, so I ended up selling mostly everything I had. Although I felt selling the partial was wrong, I needed to get any form of money I could, which led me to selling it to Tokiva. They were very interested in the partial and I felt relieved that someone wanted to buy it so I could afford to pay my mother. Within this time, I received $107 dollars; most of it being from Tokiva's commissioners. Tokiva sent $9 in total themselves. After the last payment, I was promised on many occasions that I would be getting a payment "soon" or "this week", but I never did. It was this constant cycle until eventually I didn't hear anything from them for months until they told me about their condition and that they switched Skype accounts to correct an issue they were having with the program. I was very concerned for them, and expressed how upset I was that they were having people stop being their friend over it, and assured them that I would be here for them and wouldn't ever do that. Which is true; they were a very close friend to me and I didn't want them to feel like they were going to lose me too. After that, I hadn't gotten any sort of messages from them. Within this time, I moved to another state by myself to live with my boyfriend. By January, I told them that if they didn't send a payment soon, I'd have to resell the suit because I needed some money to pay off my bills. Now, I wasn't actually sure if I was going to sell the partial or not because I had some friends who didn't have suits and I would've let them borrowed it for conventions, but at the time I thought it would probably be for the best to sell it for bills.
mewcoatimundi
Feb. 19th, 2017 09:05 pm (UTC)
Re: My Response Part 2
After hearing nothing from them for all this time, I got a response on Toyhou.se which was in perfect timing with the message I sent on Skype so I assumed it was in response but they weren't able to respond on Skype itself. The message was relevent to my message, so I didn't bring up anything about the suit. A day before I had gotten any response from Tokiva, my friend passed away due to an intentional drug overdose. This was even harder because I had another friend pass away due to an allergic reaction in her sleep. I'd been breaking down and hadn't been on the computer since I responded to them asking if I had a Discord, which I even had trouble replying to due to my emotional state, but messaged, "I do not ;w;". After this, I had been using my phone to access the internet, which wasn't very much. I had read the next message saying they would be able to make payments after their surgery, which I couldn't even find myself to reply to. We had such space between our conversations that I didn't think anything of not replying right away.

I had been visiting my psychiatrist multiple times a week, which has actually made a pretty hefty bill I had to pay, leaving me under $100 in my bank account. On top of what had happened, being so low on money put me into a worse emotional state. I can't even see my psychiatrist now. I ended up deleted all of my contacts on Skype because I couldn't stand logging in and expecting a message from friend who passed away. I didn't read anything, I just removed everyone without saying anything. I didn't block anyone either. I decided to use Telegram instead since my friend hadn't had anything to do with it. I didn't talk to anyone there either though, I still couldn't concentrate on anything and always had my phone in another room of my house. A week went by and I started to feel somewhat more stable and decided to turn on my computer, and I ended up getting into an argument with my friend, letting my anger out on them. I'm unsure if they're going to even be my friend anymore either. I cried that whole night, and later found a very hostile note from Tokiva on FA, which is posted as proof under their OP. I honestly was taken aback by it, and in the emotional state I was in, on impulse I deleted it and blocked them on Toyhou.se, but nothing else. I'm unsure why I blocked them on Toyhou.se only to be honest, at the time it felt logical. The next day I saw that they made a journal on FA calling me a scammer and multiple other things. I reported it to FA because it was against their TOS, and quite frankly it upset me more.

I started to get frustrated and didn't even want to communicate with them because of the things they had been saying about me, but never received a reply. After some sitting on it for a day, I messaged them explaining how it was a misunderstanding and why I removed them on skype etc, asking them to please stop slandering me.

Today I woke up to notes saying very nasty things to me, calling me names etc. and got notified by a friend (today) that they had been posting journals on DeviantArt and a video on YouTube saying I had 24 hours to respond or they would be posting an AB. By then it was too late, and they already had. I haven't used DeviantArt in almost 2 years now, so I didn't see this warning and Tokiva didn't reach out to me. I decided to check my sent messages on FA to see Tokiva hadn't even read my message, but then saw that it was sent to someone named "-______________________________" which was very odd to me, and they didn't even have an account. So, I resent the note today, just copying and pasting it. So far I haven't gotten a response, and it has not been read yet. I can take a screenshot of that if needed, I'm just unsure how to put it on here so if anyone could tell me that'd be great!

Again, I am more than happy to work this out with the OP, and have been. It's just been some misunderstandings and mistakes that lead up to this point, and I apologize that I didn't explain what had been going on in my life. I just wasn't able to talk about it, or anything else and I hope you understand. I'm not trying to get pity or use what happened as an excuse, but that's what caused the misunderstanding and that's really all I can say regarding the matter.

Edited at 2017-02-19 09:16 pm (UTC)
celestinaketzia
Feb. 19th, 2017 09:44 pm (UTC)
Re: My Response Part 2
I suggest both parties work out a form of contact that mutually can be used, and hash out a payment plan. Or an alternative form of a refund that is equal to the amount. Despite of how much the OP paid themselves ($9) they still worked for the other $98. That time can't be recovered, and otherwise would have been compensated directly to them.

Regardless of what is happening in one's life, the artist is always welcome to cancel a transaction. There are no explanations necessary. However, funds can't be kept if nothing is going to be delivered.

Without any response I don't blame the OP for feeling like they have been scammed. And it isn't 'slander' if they are truthful that they are out money with no word about their refund.

I wish you two the best, and good luck in finding an amicable solution to this.
mewcoatimundi
Feb. 19th, 2017 11:55 pm (UTC)
Alright, I got a response from Tokiva and I think everything will be okay! Just so people are up to date, here was the response:

http://orig01.deviantart.net/378b/f/2017/050/c/c/new_canvas_by_spritzee-dazocdr.png
celestinaketzia
Feb. 19th, 2017 11:58 pm (UTC)
mod comment
If you are receiving harassment please screencap it, and send it to one of our moderators.
mewcoatimundi
Feb. 20th, 2017 12:00 am (UTC)
Re: mod comment
Okay! Who can I send it to and how?
celestinaketzia
Feb. 20th, 2017 12:04 am (UTC)
Re: mod comment
Our full team is listed on our profile here! Aside from Kayla-la whom can be quite busy, any one of us will do. We share information via our mod chat, and will see if we can link up usernames to members. If they're a member, they'll have action taken against them.
kayla_la
Feb. 20th, 2017 04:58 am (UTC)
Let us know (with proof) whenever this is worked out and we'll mark this as resolved!
tokiva
Feb. 22nd, 2017 06:49 am (UTC)
Sorry for such a late reply! I've been on a very awful sleep schedule along with dealing with college work.

We've worked something out where Mew gave me a character + designed a sona for me to equal the art value.

80$ art worth on this character - http://toyhou.se/249435.savion

Proof of transfer: https://www.dropbox.com/s/q6224x7n2xhxaf7/proofpayed1.png?dl=0

She's also designing me a fursona based off myself:
https://www.dropbox.com/s/dtbrvqn1ylywba6/proofpayed2.png?dl=0
https://www.dropbox.com/s/6pryk521z0trmps/proofpayed3.png?dl=0

While it's not completely finished, it's showing that this has been resolved.

The lesson here that I learned myself was that I was very hasty with the situation due to panic, so I apologize on my part to Mew for that. Also regarding the messages she got from others, I believe they weren't from livejournal and I've taken it upon myself to contact those involved personally to tell them that this wasn't okay whatsoever. No drama will come from it, rest assured, I just feel that because this situation was spurred on by me, that it is my duty to tell them that it's not okay - especially since they use a youtube alias when referring to me, which means they were probably subscribers.

I did discuss the situation on youtube to ask for advice before posting here which is why I got the courage to do so, but I took the video down as soon as it was apparent that people were contacting her DESPITE me saying profusely not to.. and I've made a follow-up video to make it very clear that I do not condone any behaviors like that whatsoever. I have profusely apologized to Mew for what occurred and I would never condone such a thing, it actually makes me livid that people decided to do that.

Sorry for the trouble, and thank you moderators for being very mature in this situation! I am glad that this was resolved.
dergish
Feb. 22nd, 2017 06:52 am (UTC)
Glad y'all could reach a solution. I went ahead and marked this as resolved.
xilacs
Apr. 12th, 2017 07:43 pm (UTC)
I'm glad this has been worked out; mew is such a sweetheart and it broke my heart to see her posted here =c
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