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Advice Needed: Resolution for Commissions

I cant find anybody who would give me an answer on this.. But what resolution of images seem best to give a commissioner?

I have a laptop that I work off of, and I understand that the resolution of my screen tends to make everything way bigger, even most websites dont fit properly on my screen.. Its not bad its just a slight difference.. Anyhow, I tend to draw on my screen at the same size I would if it were paper. Where I can see most every detail when fully zoomed out/original size. I noticed that other artists tend to draw like... two or three times the size that I do but I always felt that was a personal prefrence thing.. Until recently.

I  have heard a few concerns that my art tends to be on the small size, and I dont want to give my customers any less than they deserve. So what resolutions would be best for commissions? Flat colored commissions? Fully colored and detailed commissions? Whats the average expectation?

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gatekat
Nov. 18th, 2016 08:13 pm (UTC)
The size you work in: the original file. Or at least the original size. If you watermark, just insist that they post the watermarked version you use.

Why wouldn't you want to give them the original size? It seems odd to me to treat digital commissions differently from traditional ones.
tylociraptor
Nov. 18th, 2016 08:51 pm (UTC)
The main reason I can see for not wanting to give out the original size is something that has come up here before- often times, especially finicky customers can see "flaws" in the original size that are so insignificant that they do not feature in the actual display size of the image. I've seen people complain about pixel sized blank spots that aren't even recognizable in the posted version.
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okojosan
Nov. 18th, 2016 08:15 pm (UTC)
I personally work at 300ppi, usually 11x14", or 2250 x 3000 pixels, pretty big. You can always reduce down; sizing up would be a problem unless you're working with vectors.

The reason I work at 300ppi/dpi is so if I ever decide to print a book of my work, it will print well at that size. 300dpi/600dpi being printing standards.

Unless your client wants to print out the artwork, you don't need to give them a 300ppi file, and you definitely don't want to upload 300ppi files to sites like FA or DA.

It sounds like your monitor is low resolution so everything seems bigger. I have a similar monitor, it's old but still has good color. It has the weird resolution of 1280 x 768. I think a lot of monitors are going more for 1920 x 1080 these days.
wyla
Nov. 18th, 2016 09:12 pm (UTC)
I usually give clients both the full size png (usually something like 2800 x 3850px @ 350dpi) and a smaller version where the longest edge is 1200px so that FA doesn't butcher their upload.
raiden_gekkou
Nov. 19th, 2016 02:55 am (UTC)
Turns out that you can get around FA's resizing by re-uploading the image.
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mortymaxwell
Nov. 18th, 2016 10:22 pm (UTC)
For commissions, 2800 x 3850.

And gonna go along with Gatekat, I'm confused by artists who prefer not to give out high res. ^^; I thought it was pretty standard to give clients 300 DPI files and a low res, web-safe version? I don't understand why an artist wouldn't want to give a client a high res file...


P.S. Slightly off topic... is it becoming more common practice for artists to give clients low resolution versions and charge them extra for high res files? I was looking for commissions on DA and saw this in someone's TOS. Their clients have to pay commercial usage prices if they want a high res for personal use.

"A clean, full-resolution image and/or full .psd file is/are available for commercial usage with the purchase of a license."


Edited at 2016-11-18 10:44 pm (UTC)
gatekat
Nov. 19th, 2016 02:18 am (UTC)
That's not very normal in my experience, but it fairly common to send both high and low res versions since watermarking became a more common practice. It's less about the low resolution than having the watermark there and not requiring the client to do any work to have a posting version.
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blekarotva
Nov. 18th, 2016 10:42 pm (UTC)
I work with thee different sizes - I start at 5000px or more for a scene (such a big files allows me for finer sketch lines without getting pixelated), then downsize it to 3000px 300dpi resolution for the commissioner (this way I always keep the "original" file and the commissioners gets a file ready for printing, and a smaller 1200-1600px 72dpi file for online posting.

If the commission is a sketch (flat colored/cleshading without a background) I work on 3000px because there're no details I need to zoom in to work on (mostly lines).

I like to work big because at the moment of downsizing the details look neat and clear and the sketch/paint strokes feel a lot smoother than at lower resolutions. I have a 22-23 inches screen so it's pretty easy to work with large files that easily fit the size I draw on paper, and it helps to have to rarely zoom-in except for finer details.

Fralea Comms
Nov. 18th, 2016 10:48 pm (UTC)
If 800x1000 is comfortable for you, I don't think there's anything wrong with that. You should probably clarify it somewhere in your commission info or TOS the average size you work at though, so this sort of thing doesn't happen after you already finish the work.

Personally I work at ~3000px one side at 300ppi. I have it in my TOS (as well as the highest my computer can handle) and it usually doesn't come up, but occasionally a client will want a higher resolution, so I charge extra. You could do something similar.

For sketches I usually don't work that big, but in the reasons I do work at that size are that its easier for me to shade and draw finer details, and I uses brushes with a texture in them that look best on a bigger canvas. I don't normally work in lineart, but when I do, a larger canvas means I don't have to be as exacting or worry about pixelization. I rarely actually paint at 100% zoom, I do most of the painting zoomed out. However not everyone's technique or what their computer can handle is the same.
eewitsanne
Nov. 18th, 2016 11:48 pm (UTC)
I work at 300dpi and blow the bigger side of the canvas up to 3000px, but will crop it bigger as needed. I basically work as big as my laptop can comfortably handle.

As a commissioner, getting the high res copy is probably my favorite part. I absolutely *love* to blow the file up to 100% and pore over every detail and brush stroke and really appreciate all the work that was done for me!!! Honestly, the bigger the better, but I usually expect something around that ~3000px size that I do myself. Whenever I get just a small file, it's honestly a little disappointing to me??? I tend to avoid artists who charge extra for a high res or state that they only work with small files, but that's just my personal preference. Idk there's just nothing like blowing up a *gigantic* file and seeing all that good stuff you can't fully appreciate from the web res.
bornesb
Nov. 19th, 2016 12:22 am (UTC)
I am not an artist, but as a customer I would like to know what I am getting ahead of time. So whatever size you work at, if you could list it somewhere in your commission info or TOS or something, I would REALLY appreciate it. =)
mortymaxwell
Nov. 19th, 2016 12:38 am (UTC)
As others have suggested, I think it is a good idea to mention what size your commissions are. I definitely want to know what I'm ordering, especially when I am buying gifts for someone.
lamentobento
Nov. 19th, 2016 01:23 am (UTC)
I work between 3000-6000 pixel on average. Print work can be larger than that depending on the expected format. I had some work files sent to me that were 10k+ and my previous work machine was chugging even loading these, but that's overblown if it won't wind up a giant print!!

I think the expectance for doing private commissions would be at least above 1000. Least people would expect to have something that'd fit their 1080p monitor that is! I've done icons in the 500x500 format and the sales went just fine while keeping people in the know that the final pictures are small.

There's generally no rule to sizes of privately commissioned digital art, but it would help tremendously to inform clients that you tend to draw on smaller resolutions in advance! It doesn't hurt as long as you make people aware.

Edited at 2016-11-19 01:27 am (UTC)
kalika_tybera
Nov. 19th, 2016 01:36 am (UTC)
I work at 300dpi and I provide the customer with the original size (I call it the 'print' file) and a smaller resized version for sharing/posting online.
exo_formicidae
Nov. 19th, 2016 01:43 am (UTC)
I work in 3k-6k pixels with 300 dpi - but I always give the customer a scaled down version. Why? Because that is ridiculously huge for a "standard" image. Unless it's a large detailed scene ofc. Also I enjoy starting with a square box and then crop it into the shape and size that fits the sketch. But your standard image? Maybe around 1k 1.5k, but still with a 300dpi - I want the image to be printable, but not for the zoom to be able to "pick apart" my image.

I would just write in your ToS that your standard working size might be considered small by some standards - and if they need it to be bigger to tell you in advance, and then you can take it from there. No need to work in a size that is not comfortable for you
DeadGalaxyX
Nov. 19th, 2016 02:35 am (UTC)
I appear to be a bit in the minority here, but I work at 5500px and 300 DPI.

Larger resolutions really aide in adding more fine details and work than a smaller resolution might. In this day and age, there's no reason not to work as big as possible.

Hell, I'd work at 10,000px if Sai didn't bug out when make canvases past a certain size and amount of layers.
blot
Nov. 19th, 2016 04:52 am (UTC)
I personally work very small. Even though I do traditional artwork, my pictures are rarely bigger than 1/4th of my page. So it seems I'm kind of the odd one here. Up sizing stuff is... Not fun. I'd just state what ever size you work in, so people know ahead of time that they're not going to get anything higher rez than what you work at.
amocin
Nov. 19th, 2016 05:54 am (UTC)
Thank you everybody who responded, it seems I have been on the usually small side of resolution. Going forward I will try to up my resolution to something that is both comfortable for me and what my computer can take without causing issues, and adding to my TOS/Price guide a guide on the image sizes to be expected so that nobody is disappointing.

Thank you again. ^.^ This has been very enlightening.

(Edited for spelling.)

Edited at 2016-11-19 05:54 am (UTC)
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