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Beware: tobeabird (Resolved)

Where: (MOVED) http://www.furaffinity.net/user/cynical-sergal/
http://www.furaffinity.net/user/tobeabird/
http://www.furaffinity.net/user/otter.nonsense

What: $897usd Fursuit parts and art

When: First payment - 20th July 2015
Last payment -Rush order- 8th July 2016

Proof: (#1st Order - Small canine kit) http://imgur.com/Cm1JdS6
(#2ed Order - Small Feline kit) http://imgur.com/CaxyqE9
(#3ed Order - Uncut Base Order) http://imgur.com/j8waCwt
(#4th Order - Art/ pictures) http://imgur.com/rBxO8j1
(#5th Order - Stuffed Tail Order) http://imgur.com/7stIhPk
(No longer Needed)
(#7th Order - Rush Order Fee) http://imgur.com/vMxKw14
(PLEASE DOWNLOAD THEM TO READ PROBABLY!)
(#8th Emails -1) http://imgur.com/sfoBqoo
(UPDATE: Emails-2) https://imgur.com/rnlzno2
(UPDATE: Emails-3) http://imgur.com/FjO3lYE
(UPDATE: Emails-4) http://imgur.com/0jfXwaB

***(This is now been marked as Resolved, I no longer wish to continue waiting for something to be done. So I wish to just leave this beware alltogether. There for it's now marked as Resolved, this way it's done and over with. Many thanks.)***

(Final Udate: Thanks paypal; Paypal states they will give a week for seller to ship the items owed, yet 2 days later they refund me anyways. Sigh... I'm glad I got the refund, but so annoyed that I waited a year plus for everything, I didn't mind the extra week. It's great they were on my side the whole time, but damn it paypal the seller had a week.
I've been shown I did skip the TOS, so at this point I'm fine with just getting the first postage costs back and nothing else, I already have the final postage costs and rush order; since it's now not offically sent or was sent on agreed rush date, then that's all I'm really owed. Because sellers TOS - States no refunds, not even partial refund, then I can not claim on items themselves, only postage since it wasn't sent, that's all I can ask for, which is fine... So from this point I'm only owed first postage costs only. Many thanks.)

Threats are made for now the second time -
(Update: Emails-5) http://imgur.com/H7di3Sy


Explain: I first saw the sellers items at the beginning of July 2015. (They have moved accounts since we first talked.)
*I asked for my first small canine kit, which came with - canine foam base, choose of static or moving jaw nose, tongue, teeth and balaclava. (20th july 2015.)
*I couldn't pay for postage at the time due to my exchange rates, so we agreed I'd pay that later, which I did (19th aug 2015.)
*Next order was for a Small Feline Kit, (It was a canine base at first, I changed my mind later) Same thing as canine, just feline shape instead (1 oct 2015.)
*Next was for a stuffed fully finished fursuit tail -black with a white tail tip- (28th oct 2015)
*Next was for - Canine form base -not cut- (29 nov 2015)
It's at this time i'm starting to ask for photo's or progress. I get Messages explaining they are having a bit of a hard time. Sorry for all your troubles, I have them also, I have had bad ones for years without knowing I had them.
*Next I see they offer art and seem to be doing them pretty quickly, well at the time they were -(1 Dec 2015) and (22 Dec 2015.)
*NO LONGER NEEDED*
I'm getting upset, annoyed and starting to loss myself, I have a metal breakdown. But it's not just this seller, I've had a truly bad time mentally many times over the years, so I'm now on pills etc to help me. At this time I break down to the point I snap and say and do things I truly do regret, but I do not remember doing them. I see what I said, and I say I'm sorry and I really do mean it, I'm normally the very nice and claim type, so this shocked me just as much as it did everyone else at the time, including the seller.
*I offer a (Rush Order fee -8th Jul 2016) And we agreed on everything to be done beginning of August. Everything is done at the beginning of August, so all I need do is pay the difference in postage.

Final Postage Has Now Been Paid = 8/09/2016. (Proof = http://imgur.com/63VTKGU )

((I have not had much time to update this, I'm very sorry for that.)) I was just worried after all the emails mentioning I would get final postage cost, but at the time didn't seem to be happening, that I posted this beware up in the first place. ((But I did get one later, which has been paid for.)) I've had bad sales before and many times sellers promised me this day then that day, and it was kinda the same here or at least seemed that way, so I got fustarded thinking it's happening again, it's where my mind went automatically, so I filed a beware. I got the final postage cost, but also was informed to include the facts I was ok with waiting at first, that I understood at the time I had to wait for everything to be shipped together. Which you can read our emails for yourselves. I may have made this beware to soon and without warning, but with the stuff around I had been given, how could I not think my money was being taken for nothing in return. I was over thinking things and jumped to just thinking nothing but bad thoughts about everything, I should not have done that, but at the same time I wasn't being reassured with photo's I had asked for muliple times, if at all I even got them once, I would have waited with no issues at all, so I'm sorry, but at the same time I have the rights to think badly when nothing was truly being provided, other then emails stating I would get it etc - Many times the same email, it seemed like copy/paste and nothing else. ((PLEASE DOWNLOAD THE EMAILS TO READ THEM PROBABLY!)) In hindsight I should have just asked for each one to be sent by themselves, I know this for future refference I will not make that mistake again. Again I'm sorry.

I did rush into making this beware, and I am sorry for that, but I also had rights to do so, I do not need to give a warning that I would post one, stating this is a threat is it not? No matter how I worded it, even as nice as I could, it would not have mattered, as I was informing them I'd post a beware If I did not get my products, and doing so is a threat, this is exactly why I didn't give any warning at all. I did offer to pay taxi fare and was told to wait longer because they wished to shipped items together, again I get that, saves time and money. But I offered the taxi fare, I wish they took it, I would never have posted this beware otherwise. I would have had this shipped - 23ed - maybe 26th August. It would have been over and done with already. First try at posting it failed due to the post office getting it wrong with the details, USPS takes two weeks to refund the shipping, so I waited that.

They informed me of the refund being put back - 29/09/2016 - They informed me Tuesday works for them best they would sent it then - Which would have been - 04/10/2016.  (It's now today - 04/11/2016.) One month supposesly after getting the refund. They could ship it any Tuesday from when the refund was given, but they didn't. I gave a final date and never got a reply, If they simply asked me 'could I wait til the last day for them to send it'  I never got an emailing asking for that, I never would have placed a dispute to paypal on the final day. I heard nothing for 2 weeks after I asked if I could not reply to them anymore, since the emails were always seeming the same. I never said I didn't want them to contact me at all. Even a simple 'I understand, I'll message you when I ship it, give me til such and such date, or provide me a Final date for me to work off' All this could have been avorded if I had gotten that request.

If seller wishes to block or remove me later then that's fine I get it, I do not wish to order anymore anyway. There's not much else I can say. I will ask the admins to mark this as resolved once I have gotten the items I paid for, as that's all that is needed now, nothing else. I'm not even fused if I get the art anymore, I just want the items at this point nothing else.

Final actual item that was orderd was the Uncut canine Base = (29 nov 2015) - Still almost a year ago actually, 10 months if we are to get techial.

Many thanks for reading.

*Updates Provided above, hopefully that is ok?*
(Admins have requested that I update this again so they may keep track of how things are going.)
Artist's beware has moved!
Do NOT repost your old bewares. They are being archived.
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Comments

PB_Willow
Sep. 7th, 2016 11:23 am (UTC)
I'm only going to type out a single comment for now especially since we have been trying to settle things for a while via email and it wasn't until tonight that I was even made aware of this post.

I already tried many times to compensate for the time it took but all of this was denied by you, yourself. I spoke with several other artists, plush makers and even fur suit makers and the biggest issue for you is the wait time. But the thing is you did not wait a year.

While yes, the first item was purchased a year ago, you chose yourself to not have me send the first head base out because you wanted your items to be sent out in one solid package to avoid having to pay nearly $100 every time you purchased something. It went from one item to two and then to three and so on and so forth. Every time, it raised the postage cost and it also kept setting you back further and further into the queue.

When you purchased one item and then a month or two later, another, the clients between that time that also purchased same items, were ahead of your newer items. You knew this because I told you that there were other small parts ahead of yours and it was even listed in the queue. (I'm speaking past tense because the items ahead of yours are already done so they aren't still active commissions anymore.) It wasn't just once that this happened, this was several times that you added things on that needed to be in the same box for you. So when one base was done and another added a month or two later, it would set back once again the time to get the product and it's like the commission starts all over again. New product, new spot in line. First in, first out.

None of the shipping was totaled because I have never shipped to your country before, it was impossible for me to tell you the exact cost based on a weight I was unsure of. So it was agreed shipping would come after the products if more shipping needed to be paid.

I understand that waiting is hard but when you put so much added work over and over again and have the artist hold onto -everything- it can no longer be -all- on the artist for a wait time. You were not without communication, even the emails you showed above show constant communication and any little thing that went wrong / caused any sort of delays were made known to you. Every time it was always "an ok thing" and "I didn't need to worry". It wasn't until July that you wanted this all done and out the door asap which I understood. You offered the rush fee and I see comments about me charging it, I need it to be known here and now that I did not forcibly charge that said fee. You made an offer amount based on the amount of product you purchased and I agreed to get the products done within the rush time frame. I did just that.

The AB was posted during the time that we've been talking about shipping and it says it'll be updated but I see no updates posted. I gave you the quoted amount for shipping. I did not say at all that I wanted to ship your package out with another client's I said I was going to the post that same day to get the estimate, that's in the emails you provided. I have given you the estimate and you have not paid the remaining $98 usd owed for shipping in order for me to send this package out. I'm still waiting on the remaining shipping.

There can't be a refund for something already completed that I'm waiting on shipping money for. I understand you're upset but there's a lot more factors to this that haven't been posted in this post on top of not telling the truth about postage.

On top of this all, it was extremely unfair to blame one's mental break down on an artist or on anyone for that matter. You had apologized for this and bringing it up again is a bit shocking. You did not state in your apology to me that the wait time was the sole cause of your break down but telling others that it was is either lying to myself or to them. I don't think it's fair you had to wait, no, but you were made aware of why things were set back with everything I went through this year and you were fine up until the rush fee that you offered before putting the breakdown on me.
kitzwing
Sep. 8th, 2016 02:42 am (UTC)
I posted this Artist beware a while back, when you had not talked to me for about 4 days. So I posted it before our latest talk which I still have not yet had time to update, but I will very soon. Hopefully today If I can.


I will be paying the $98 that you stated, you had not yet conformed you had $100 difference that was already paid yet til today in your email. I will let artist beware know to put it as resolved once I'm given the tracking number. I still do not want the maine coon tail, I will still either sell or trade it later. Again I need to update this AB.

If you download this - http://imgur.com/q59k8gd I was told June at first. You conformed one month later you had it 80% done. And finally one month later you conformed all that was needed was postage difference. That's 2 months later, from being told at first June, then we agreed on early august, we are now in early September by the way. I was told - it done such and such day, Then shipped such and such day, I waited a day or so asked again, and did this maybe 3 times til now. I asked multiple times for photo's still haven't gotten any.


Artist Beware have a rule that once I post one, it can not be removed it can only be marked as resolved. It's what they told me. I clearly show I ordered more over time, also when filling this out I need to state when the order started, hence tech it is a year ago in a since. Though in the long run maybe 8 months or so.

AGAIN I NEED TO UPDATE THIS. Thanks.

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