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Beware: Chapiduh (Stolen Art) [Resolved]

WHERE: http://www.furaffinity.net/user/chapiduh/

WHAT: Traced YCH pose from Trogan of my commission without credit or permissions.

WHEN: 3/30/16

PROOF: NSFW All links

The artist has now removed most traces of the offending art from her gallery knowing she's been caught. These are the downloaded pieces I was able to get before she deleted them. Her signature is on every piece.

http://www.furaffinity.net/view/19534690/
http://i.imgur.com/8CkJxsD.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/2f1ckjb.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/0sB2XN5.jpg

Torgans YCH and the finished commission

http://www.furaffinity.net/view/12895406/ YCH Auction
http://www.furaffinity.net/view/13888427/ My finished commission

A side by side comparison of the images. Trogan is left, her image is right.
http://i.imgur.com/Pob13HK.jpg

EXPLAIN: I was notified about a stolen piece of my art. I investigated the art and contacted the artist to let them know that the piece they did was a trace of my commission. They instantly were defensive and thought it was no big deal. I advised them that tracing and/or using another artists piece as a 'pose reference' is still Copyright infringement. The artist became hostile and attacked my character in FA Notes, calling it 'sad' that I spent so much on this commission. So far the artist refuses to give credit to the pose of Trogans (and my commission) for her piece she used for reference, which is illegal and against FA AUP.

Screens of our conversation. (Read from Bottom to Top)

http://i.imgur.com/1romNot.png
second half http://i.imgur.com/YIqPezk.png


I wanted this to be known the artist may use stolen art and references for their pieces, and seems to lack the moral compos to know what is right and what is wrong so other commissioners to not get cheated art.

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celestinaketzia
Apr. 3rd, 2016 10:22 pm (UTC)
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Howdy! You're free to repost this comment, but please make sure to mark the links as NSFW. This original is being screened.
fawkatronic
Apr. 3rd, 2016 10:29 pm (UTC)
[Reposting comment, sorry for forgetting the NSFW tags x_x;]

Their description on the submissions are really aggressive....
"Whole drawing made by ME!. in stream!. Just for those people who dont understand this." http://www.furaffinity.net/view/19552652/ (NSFW)
"Whole drawing made by me. Was done in Stream.
I hate u all ..thank you" http://www.furaffinity.net/view/19552553/ (NSFW)
kell0x
Apr. 3rd, 2016 10:56 pm (UTC)
Wow those comments...she is not handeling it well. I also discovered a friend of mine was selling traced art from anime bases. I send her a message she read it but acts like I never send it..I tried talking to our friends about it but got a "'hm hm she is sensetive tho"" respond so i gave up.
fawkatronic
Apr. 3rd, 2016 11:38 pm (UTC)
And there are now shouts on their profile harassing them, breaking the AB rules. The accounts look like obvious throw-aways and were both made on the same day. x_x
celestinaketzia
Apr. 3rd, 2016 11:40 pm (UTC)
I'm already in the process of reporting them to FA. FA mods can probably track them to their main accounts better than we can remind people that this isn't ok.

And just as a reminder to everyone: This isn't ok.

Edited at 2016-04-03 11:45 pm (UTC)
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clockmagic
Apr. 4th, 2016 12:24 am (UTC)
Oh dear. I hope the artist calms down and understands why stealing like this is looked down on. No reason to be so aggressive, you know what you did was wrong. :(
From what I could see it's clear they have talent, I just don't understand why they feel the need to trace.
celestinaketzia
Apr. 4th, 2016 12:25 am (UTC)
It's not a trace. When this was in the queue I lined it up, but it is an extremely heavy eyeball which should be credited.
laughsatthunder
Apr. 4th, 2016 02:28 am (UTC)
While I agree that it's not excusable to heavily reference something without giving credit, it's the artists' reaction that really killed this whole thing for me. Their tone and degrading comments about Trojan's work was so unnecessary.
chronidu
Apr. 4th, 2016 04:11 am (UTC)
definitely not a traced but very heavily eyeballed for sure, and they seem to be very upfront about it.

The artists reactions alone is enough to make them avoid them entirely though.
fear_eater
Apr. 4th, 2016 09:18 am (UTC)
I have since gone ahead and posted a TT on FA pertaining to the situation in the hopes to bring the situation to light and have the artwork taken down again, since he/she re-uploaded them, and if necessary, have them banned for theft and non-consented use / trace of another artist's content.

It is a clear sign they did it intentionally based on the fact they put "fu** you all" in the artist comment section on those pieces since they had been caught about it.

Hope it helps bring some closure to the whole situation and gets another thief taken down from the ranks.
likeshine
Apr. 4th, 2016 01:03 pm (UTC)

Wow, that convo between you two just made me cringe. I see that the artist is 18, young, but still old enough to know not to swear at customers and heavily bite someone else's art.

I'm sorry OP :(
Lindsey Dworshak
Apr. 5th, 2016 08:32 am (UTC)
Wow, talk about not taking it well. I understand that they used it for reference, but proper credit is key. Also someone's art pieces are not where you get references from.

I guess if the artist sees this post here is a link to free to use pose reverences, This web site has really helped me grow, and hopefully it helps others too.
http://www.posemaniacs.com/
rayesesshyfan
Apr. 5th, 2016 10:22 am (UTC)
Ugh, reading those PMs with her was painful.
flowerfox1994
Apr. 5th, 2016 07:25 pm (UTC)
I saw both drawings and I saw they are the same pose but they are still different. the face the hands.. And after she saw it was wrong she took them down. I note her and she replied to me it was a misunderstanding her client wanted her to draw it and both didnt knew it was wrong. I also noted her client and he said this would be true. and now everybody is hating her. I saw these spam comments and shouts. she took the drawings down because trogan himself noted her and told her that. Shes only 18 yo. I think she learned her lesson. Now you only need to google her name and this post is on the first page!. It seems like it would kill her so bad..please stop it..
lackoflollies
Apr. 5th, 2016 07:49 pm (UTC)
This post has every right to remain up, she made a bad decision, had a bad reaction to being called out to said decision, and can't simply erase it now.

Most people know from the age of 4-5 that stealing is wrong.
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sapphistscot
Apr. 6th, 2016 06:08 pm (UTC)
The attitude in those notes is just awful, but the bit that I find absolutely inexcusable is her telling the OP that they're sad and pathetic for 'wasting' their money on Trogan's work and saying they could do the same for cheaper. Maybe their work is cheaper because they just copy it from someone else.
Chapi Maus
Apr. 7th, 2016 09:43 am (UTC)
Hey..
"Hey Rainstorm..
I saw your journal and the page with the drawings and the Chat between us. I just wanted to tell you i dont wanted to be mean and i know how wrong that was. You can post this in the internet if u want so everyone can see it. Im really sorry. I copied the pose but i dont knew it was wrong but now i know.. That was the first and the last time i did this. My client wanted me to use this YCH but we dont knew it was wrong. I was so pissed after u texted me because my life is not so easy.. Im very ill and at this day it was very hard for me to get along with my schizophrenia and depression. I know it was wrong to be mean to you and i will also note trogan and will appologize. I hope nobody hates me anymore. It is really killing me... So.. And again sorry for everything i did and my bad english.. I hope u understand anything well.. If u have any questions feel free to ask me..."

-Chapiduh...

I wanted to note you on FA but you blocked me so I send it here..
hanabikun
Apr. 7th, 2016 03:54 pm (UTC)
Still up
I just wanted to say that as of today the traced art is STILL up on their FA as well as on their, what I precieve to be, mates FA. http://www.furaffinity.net/view/19577237/
flowerfox1994
Apr. 7th, 2016 05:36 pm (UTC)
Re: Still up
thats not stolen. thats her own drawing.
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