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I won't name any names just yet but my patience is wearing pretty thin.

The situation is as follows: I decided to try to do a yiffmish so I answered the ad of someone on the vcl forum. In turn, I was sent an email which included naked pictures of the realife commissioner. Needless to say, I was not encouraged by that. We ended up deciding to just do a pinup of the character instead.

Things go fine as I work on the sketch, but then after I finish and begin to ask for half payment, we began to have problems. She tried to paypal me the money, but as I do not have a business type account and she was using a credit card for her paypal, this did not work. She told me she'd try to set up a bank account for it, and sent me a strangely worded email that she needed to verify the account (I get a sneaking suspcion she was a little drunk?!) The last email she personally sent me was on June 8th, stating that she would end a money order for the entire amount.

After a while she still didn't respond, so I found her on the forum again and she replied on June 26th that she had been busy with her son's marriage and that she could send the money to me.

On July 2nd I had to leave for a family trip to Taiwan until the 17th; since I have gotten back, I have sent her several emails and left a reply to her on the forum. Still no response.

The most bizarre thing is that she has been fairly active on the forum, commissioning art from others with no problem (the transactions were done in public so I could tell). I have a suspicion that her refusal to pay me has to do with me not being able to draw her pron (all the other pieces i saw her commish were of that nature). :( It's confusig becuase she seemed happy with the sketch (as she should be, given all the nitpickig she did @_@)

I'm really disapointed as she was the last person I trusted to send a refined sketch without a watermark. :( None of that, now. I've learned my lesson.

So to wrap up: how much longer should I give her before I write up a public takedown? It's the only way I know of to force her to respond to me, even though I hate it because it looks so bad on my part. Or should I just send a money request to her paypal and another warning for now?

Edit: Just to make sure we're all on the same page-- the problem was NOT with me not having a business paypal account, but rather that she is not responding to any forms of communication (email/forum posts). I sent her a payment request the other day explaining that I wished to stop the commission as just a sketch, and she's sent me the money so it seems all good (and yes I will have to upgrade). Other than that, thank you all for your input! I really appreciate it.
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Jul. 25th, 2006 04:17 pm (UTC)
if she has been commissioning other people for something you had problems drawing, she has obviously stated (in a very passive aggressive way) that she was unhappy with your methods and that she no longer wishes your art. I would tell her the commission is off and post a public warning, stating that the person is very fickle and caution should be taken when accepting commissions from her in the future.
Jul. 26th, 2006 06:12 am (UTC)
The thing is I didn't have problems drawing it, it was just that she was way too unspecific. She sent me a pic of a statue and told me to draw her exactly the same way-- so I did. Then she told me to make it look like her, so I did. Then she told me I was still doing it wrong-- becuase apparently she had cut her hair during that time period @_@; so I had to change it again.

Otherwise, she seemed pretty pleased with what I turned out :/
(no subject) - skulldog - Jul. 26th, 2006 08:17 am (UTC) - Expand
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Jul. 25th, 2006 04:22 pm (UTC)
You mean Becky who is currently browsing the forum as I type this?
If she's been active but hasn't responded I say you take her down.
It looks like she's mostly after free stuff, which is fine, but not if she agrees to payments which are not forthcoming.
Jul. 26th, 2006 06:14 am (UTC)
*cough* why yes D:

:( Ugh like I said, she already paid at least one artist that I know of, and has been soliciting more for paid art. The ad I answered originally was also a call for paid art.

Jul. 25th, 2006 04:28 pm (UTC)
Since no money has changed hands yet, and she doesn't seem to have any trouble with other artists, I would personally not deliver any public smackdowns. Just send her a note explaining that you do not think that you can finish the commission and leave it at that. If you've already put considerable work into it, consider finishing it up and putting it up for sale at an art show at one of the conventions.
Jul. 25th, 2006 04:30 pm (UTC)
The fact that money hasn't exchanged hands yet is the problem, customer has a sketch but artist has no money.
Jul. 25th, 2006 05:18 pm (UTC)
I agree, the fact that she's commissioning other people means you've been left behind. I wouldn't wait any longer, email/pm/whatever her one last time saying the commission is off, explain why (in a polite businesslike manner, at least), and leave it at that. If you feel led to post a public warning, make sure it's as neutral and 'just stating the facts' as possible.
Jul. 26th, 2006 06:42 pm (UTC)
That's the problem; she isn't responding to me at all, htough I've emailed her and left her a notice on the forum. But thank you for your advice on the public warning, I'll definately follow that if it comes to it.
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Jul. 25th, 2006 10:30 pm (UTC)
"Fuck this shit.

And I mean that in the most professional way!"

Hey, she already won't pay for a commission. What makes you think she'll pay for a professional fucking? :P

(no subject) - lemonfruitpie - Jul. 26th, 2006 06:35 am (UTC) - Expand
Jul. 25th, 2006 07:19 pm (UTC)
Why not just get a business account? Its free to do, and if someone sends you a payment you should automatically be upgraded to that...? Would have made things a lot easier in the begining...
Jul. 25th, 2006 07:52 pm (UTC)
Yeah, get a business account. I got one, and I don't really know the difference between that and a regular account, and it's not hard to just get one.
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Jul. 25th, 2006 07:49 pm (UTC)
She's commissioned me for TONS of stuff (and I mean, literally paid my way to AC).

She sent me the pictures of her, too, but luckily I looked at one and decided that was more than enough x____x At least she could of put a warning on it. TMI!!

But yeah...she always pays me with PayPal, I upgraded to a business account to accept credit card payments. It does take 2.9% out, but use the PayPal Calculater to figure out how much extra to charge.

Oh, and she e-mailed me a while ago saying she got a new e-mail...if that helps? (I can PM it to you on VCL or something if you'd like)

But I say...if she's giving you this much trouble and no money has changed hands yet, just drop it :/ If you don't want to continue with the commission, at least make sure you get paid for the sketch. PM her, maybe?
Jul. 26th, 2006 06:31 am (UTC)
@_@ hahaah definately TMI

I didn't think it was worth upgrading since I usually don't deal with credit cards-- this is the first time I've run across it.

Is it the new one she has listed in her VCL info? Becuase if so, I've already emailed it. But thanks for thinking of it!

:/ I'm usually not on at the right times to catch her, is the problem.
(no subject) - dreamaria - Jul. 26th, 2006 03:43 pm (UTC) - Expand
Whoops, nevermind! - lemonfruitpie - Jul. 26th, 2006 07:01 pm (UTC) - Expand
Jul. 25th, 2006 09:33 pm (UTC)
Likewise. To my knowledge you can upgrade to a business account on Paypal for free. This will incur a small transaction fee for each payment you receive (of any type), but it’s a piddly amount in all honesty, and certainly worth it if it means you can accept debit and credit cards.

I’d upgrade if I were you then send her another paypal money request, stating she can pay with any debit/credit card. If she still fails to pay, then you know she’s dodging the bill intentionally and can take it further.
Jul. 26th, 2006 06:33 am (UTC)
Hm I'll think on this 6o6/ thanks for your advice!
(no subject) - lemonfruitpie - Jul. 26th, 2006 07:02 pm (UTC) - Expand
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