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Help...? Possible beware?

Hello there friends! Please forgive me if I do something wrong... I have only posted to this site once before but never regarding a Beware/possible beware.

Back in February I posted a YCH auction. The winner was prompt to pay and sent over his references. I have never drawn a character of this species before so I was excited but scared as well! I did not want to deny him though because it was a rare opportunity to draw something non furry.

Time passes and I continue to work on things. I send him a WIP of the image to make sure that he liked it. Then he redline all the errors that he sees and I proclaim "Wow! Okay thats a lot! Ill fix him up and have him done by next week!". Sadly next week came but I did not yet have him finished. I was leaving for Japan for three weeks so all art had to be put on hold. I made sure to contact all my clients and let them know. The person in question never replied to my note.

I finally return home from Japan on March 25th. I take some time off from art due to jetlag, trying to get back into the right schedule, and also a few other stressful issues. I finish his image on April 2nd and send it to him. He thanks me for the art and my efforts.

He posts the image to his gallery and also posts it to Facebook(uses it as an icon also) and adds me as a friend on there.

Today I was scrolling down through Facebook and came across him and the picture. Someone had commented saying how they wanted to get an image from me. The person in question said that they "Would not suggest doing that"
and that I "Had a bit of an attitude when it came to edits". He also said I was "Unresponsive"??? He also said that I kept putting other YCHs ahead of his. This i have no proof of but I will admit I most likely did. I will admit my faults and apologize!

After reading this I was in shock! I commented to him apologizing and trying to figure out exactly when he felt I got an "attitude" with him. I had no intention to upset him! I was just hoping we could discuss the situation like adults so I could better understand.

He never replied. Instead he deleted my comments(If you can do that on facebook? Either way the comments are gone!),removed me from his friends list, and HEAVILY edited his previous comment.

I have screencapped everything! From the facebook comments to our notes through FA. I feel bad that he is upset with me. But I am confused as to WHY he keeps using the image if he had such a bad experience with me?

is this warrant to a Beware? Am I just being silly!? What should I do...

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May. 3rd, 2015 06:08 pm (UTC)
I believe it does because who is to say that the client wont do it again to other people even if the artist does nothing wrong.
May. 3rd, 2015 07:01 pm (UTC)
Yeah I would definitely hate for him to do that to someone else. Ive never had such an issue like this before and I don't like false accusations. I would have gladly apologized to him or tried to remedy the issue further it he had talked to me.
May. 3rd, 2015 06:09 pm (UTC)
Is this bewareable? This isn't something we can definitely answer without seeing it in the queue, but from what you've explained? Probably not.

This could be chalked up to incompatible client and artist. He should have voiced his concerns to you instead of acting like everything is okay, but you will probably run into this more than once when working with people. Some folks are not good about getting into confrontation.

One thing I see is that you told him you would have the image 'done by next week'. Did you note him back when the image wasn't done? The thing about self-imposed deadlines is that they're still deadlines. It's best to always respond to a client with a WIP if you are going to miss a deadline that you told them the work would be done by. "Hey I didn't quite get done, but here's a WIP of where it's at!" It helps keep the faith up between you and your client.

I can kind of see from his perspective on this. I would be slightly miffed too if an artist promised me something, heard nothing, and then the next time I hear from them is a form letter that they're going to be gone.
May. 3rd, 2015 07:23 pm (UTC)
Im going to have to agree with this. While his words may have hurt and things didn't go as smoothly as one would like, this just sounds like the client was somewhat picky and disagreeable, but not to the extent of having a beware put out against them.

Chalk it up as a learning experience that sometimes clients won't be pleased and continue on doing your best to serve the clients you still have.
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May. 3rd, 2015 06:32 pm (UTC)
"But I am confused as to WHY he keeps using the image if he had such a bad experience with me?"

to respond to this, ive commissioned artists and had bad experiences but i still like the art and will still use it. it was still money spent. it could be something like that?
May. 3rd, 2015 07:31 pm (UTC)
ahhh! Yes you are right! I can see this as well! When posting the beware I was still in shock. I have also still kept art from artist I had a bad experience with.

You are probably most likely right!
May. 3rd, 2015 07:04 pm (UTC)
Personally I don't think there needs to be a beware for this. The way you wrote this and your typing style are throwing up some red flags for me - I may be off base on that, but if you find yourself in situations like this often where you can't understand why an interaction with someone went wrong and they dislike you now and in your opinion you were nothing but polite to them - there's no shame in having a friend you trust double-check or even take over interactions with clients for you. You can pay them for their time. They could help you keep things in order as well if you do want to keep to a first-come first-serve in terms of whose YCH and commissions get done when; that way you can just focus on drawing.

Either way - try not to worry too much. Even if I am totally off base here and he's twigged at you for absolutely no reason, that happens to all artists and really anybody selling something eventually. The occasional whiny customer is not something to get overly concerned about or to make a beware about.
May. 3rd, 2015 07:37 pm (UTC)
Understood! As the others said it is a learning experience.

I will definitely let one of my friends look over all my notes for me. Most likely one of them who commissions folks a lot. I will also go back through and make sure I didnt miss anything.

And I will try not to worry! I just get nervous because I dont want to be someone who seems unapproachable.

Thank you for your words! I will do my best :)
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May. 3rd, 2015 07:29 pm (UTC)
No beware is really needed , Id just brush it off , he likes the art but is a little upset with how things went but I wouldn't let it bother you
May. 3rd, 2015 07:38 pm (UTC)
Okay! Thank you! You guys are making me feel much better now, ahhh!
May. 3rd, 2015 07:31 pm (UTC)
I'm going to go at this from another perspective: whether or not it's worthy of a beware post, you should let it go. You cannot please everyone all the time, and no matter how you go about your business you're always going to have the odd unsatisfied customer. Clients aren't required to recommend you or give you a good review if they weren't satisfied, and your reflection here shows why they might be unsatisfied. If you want to be serious as a freelancer, you need to be thick-skinned and accept not everyone is going to be happy with your work. It's not worth your time to do more than take your lessons learned, draw a line under it and move on.
May. 3rd, 2015 07:44 pm (UTC)
Yes! Thank you! As the others have said it is a learning experience.

I just get very nervous haha! but I need to learn.. I really do! Its just as I said above I dont want to be one of those "Unapproachable" artist that so many talk about.

And I agree! They arent required to do that at all!

I think honestly though... The part that got me the most was him telling others that I "Got an attitude" and also that "I was unresponsive". But as you stated I need to get more thick-skinned and deal with it.

Thank you for your words as well! I am glad to have all of your opinions.
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May. 4th, 2015 05:35 pm (UTC)
To a degree you don't need to write up anything. However, if the person slanders your work and makes false claims or attempts to make more edits without your consent, an A_B could be in order then.
May. 5th, 2015 01:11 am (UTC)
Does it not count as slander to warn someone else against commissioning them like he did, though? (not asking to be contentious, just genuinely curious!)
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May. 21st, 2015 03:36 am (UTC)
I guess I don't come around here often enough to be able to tell you what is considered "post worthy" or not on this particular community. However, I am going to go ahead and let you know that I, personally, completely understand the upset you feel.

While others may feel it is something to be brushed off, I look at it this way: someone seemed interested in commissioning you, and they literally decided to keep that from happening. I view that as blatantly wrong, period - opinions aside, they literally did not recommend you for no legitimate reason, and I would not be happy with it whatsoever either.

At the same time, I understand that different sites have their own rules, so if it's not meant to be on here, then it's not. Still, though - in my opinion, what they did was wrong. It's fine to have your own opinion, of course. Everyone is entitled to theirs, and should be allowed to express themselves. But there is also a time and a place, and a way to /properly convey/ your opinions(in a way that is respectful enough not to harm others)... not to mention a little something called basic ethics. They were wrong. They know they were, as shown in their dramatic response to you noticing what they did.

Doesn't change anything, I know. But I just wanted to state /my/ opinion, for the record. (: You're not overreacting. You are allowed to feel however you want. You were right to not name names, and to ask for help. I hope you can move beyond this and learn from it, as you and others have said. At this point, I'm also sure that it's the best thing you can probably do. Kudos, & good luck in the future!
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