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This guy is obviously a tracer: http://www.furaffinity.net/gallery/poltergeist/

It's easy to tell by the lines in his pencil pieces; he claims they're sketches but the lines are single shakey lines, deviating and erased/corrected only where he slipped while trying to trace the original work. There's no construction lines or smudges even though he's obviously not very adept at sharpening lines and cleaning noise digitally.
Not to mention the fact his style and skill-level varies hugely from a Gendy Tartakovsky style to anime and Disney.

Subjects: Wolf's rain(?), Inu Yasha (a fangirl favorite), Balto (same as Inu Yasha), Danny Phantom and Sonic.
If you could find the original screenshots/artwork I'd appreciate it a lot.

I already found a screenshot of the TLK trace, it's the scene before "I can't wait to be a king" where Zazu tells Simba and Nala that they're betrothed.
You can see it in action here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2FcwxJUwRiU&search=lion%20king%20simba%20nala%20

Edit:
Arshes-Nei found this original: http://evabeast.com/4images/details.php?image_id=5691
For this copy: http://www.furaffinity.net/view/117683/

Edit:
Preyfar discretely contacted the tracer and it would seem that he took his traces down.
Doesn't look like he's banned to let's hope that he'll start uploading his own art.
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go__banana
Jun. 2nd, 2006 08:16 pm (UTC)
i think considering their age, we should ease off of him. honestly, who here, prior to taking your artistry seriously, did not trace your favorite films/animes/etc? at 14, i traced sailor moon and pokemon. as time progresses, your style will change; hopefully (and most likely) it will change for this individual when they're 18 or more.

but hey, maybe i'm an idiot.
thaily
Jun. 2nd, 2006 08:22 pm (UTC)
Ease off him?

As far as I can see no-one's been commenting about his uploads or being mean to him, I'm just collecting proof so the admins can debate on wether or not to take action and if they do, treat him like anyone else.

He's old enough to be told that tracing art and uploading it as your own is wrong and against the site's rules. You know, the ones he agreed to follow when he signed up for FA?

How's treating him like every other FA member unfair?
fishbowlfrenzy
Jun. 2nd, 2006 09:24 pm (UTC)
but hey, maybe i'm an idiot.

What, for not wanting to rip this kid a new one? hardly.

Most of us went through that "tracing" stage when we were younger, I'd like to think it may just be a part of this person's learning process.
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shirikdraguinea
Jun. 2nd, 2006 08:18 pm (UTC)
the Sonic and Amy one is from an Episode of Sonic X. I can picture it in my head right now... they've just been in a huge fight and Amy runs up to Sonic and clings to him yelling "Sonniku!" and crying. Sonic meanwhile is like "WTF?"

I'll try and find it. I know its reasonably early on in the series
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thaily
Jun. 2nd, 2006 08:24 pm (UTC)
I considered that, I use a lightbox to trace my dirty sketches onto clean paper, but that would require him to have a dirty sketch he made. If he isn't tracing directly from someone else's work I'm sure he can provide that dirty sketch with construction lines etc.
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raptonx
Jun. 2nd, 2006 08:55 pm (UTC)
I hate tracers.......
gothwings
Jun. 2nd, 2006 10:16 pm (UTC)
I never did the whole tracing thing. Call it artistic snobbery, but even at a young age I wanted to create my own work rather than tracing or copying that of others.

However, if this person is learning that way then fine. My only criticism would be that there is no mention of where the inspiration for these images came from when they are clearly copied. With a little luck they will evolve as an artist in their own right, learning how to draw from their simple tracing.
thaily
Jun. 2nd, 2006 10:21 pm (UTC)
"I never did the whole tracing thing."

I know people will refuse to believe me, but neither did I. Much less pass it off as my own :/

Not sure you can learn much from directly tracing art (or to what extent inspiration actually plays a part), but I imagine he does want to become an artist and not just a tracer, so a gentle nudge in the direction of originality is probably best. I'm sure I can depend on the admins to handle it in a calm and mature way though.

Glad no-one has trolled him (despite of what some people seem to think O_o) because it would probably just make him dig his heels in.
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lilenth
Jun. 3rd, 2006 12:02 am (UTC)

Same here, I once copied a piece of super mario box art but never traced it and I only showed the result to my parents.
industrialwolf
Jun. 3rd, 2006 03:29 am (UTC)
HEY I DREW FROM THE LION KING ONCE WHEN I WAS LITTLE AND YOU COULD LEIK TELL I WAS LOOKING AT THE LION KING TRADING CARDS WHILE I DID IT IN LEIK I LEARNED HOW TO COLOR AND DRAW AND STUFF FROM THAT MOMENT OK?!?!?

but LET'S KILL THIS SONOFABITCH!!!!!!!!!
thaily
Jun. 3rd, 2006 06:34 am (UTC)
It kinda looks like English, only not.
growly
Jun. 3rd, 2006 03:38 am (UTC)
Danny Phantom is Butch Hartman, not Gennedy Tartakovsky. ;)
But that really is irrelevant.

Technically, tracing is not illegal, only if you are making money off of it. Art students are encouraged to study famous works of art and try to mimick it as best they can to learn the techniques behind how it was made. It is very good practice for beginners to imitate other artists before they find a style of their own.
Tracing, however, doesn't really help your art that much, but no, it isn't illegal, only unethical.

I wouldn't sweat it, however. If he traces one of yours, just ask him to credit you and if he doesn't and it's obviously a rip of your artwork, the admins will remove it.
thaily
Jun. 3rd, 2006 06:35 am (UTC)
"Technically, tracing is not illegal"

Not allowed on FA though.
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