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WHO: Nathradas/Sturmschwinge

WHERE: FurAffinity

WHAT: Full color single character piece, no background.

This is a follow up posting to my previous entries seen here:
http://artists-beware.livejournal.com/679299.html
http://artists-beware.livejournal.com/724656.html

I am mostly posting this to advise others that this artist has not refunded me or the other people she owes and has in fact, skipped accounts, while claiming that she has no inspiration and can't meet her obligations.

PROOF:
On Nov. 4th, 2013, Nathradas posts this journal explaining her situation.
Feeling pretty fed up at this point, I do post a response because I've really had enough of this, especially when I've only found out about her leaving the internet "forever" months after the fact.
At the beginning of July, this year, a personal friend of Nathradas sends me a private message informing me of her new accounts. I have edited out the username and any incriminating details as per the user's request.
Another person who knows Nathradas in person messages me on Twitter to inform me that she is at EF, taking commissions, and is using her new username on FA as well as Weasyl and Tumblr.
I fire a note over to her on Weasyl, this note has still gone unread.
I tried messaging her on FA, this note has still gone unread.
The second comment I have left on her userpage- the first one was deleted within a week of it's posting and I neglected to screencap it as proof.

EXPLAIN:
I have been pursuing this transaction for just over three years with very, very little success. This artist has ignored correspondence, taken on commissions while still owing others work and/or refunds, and then has gone so far as to abandon her previous account and responsibilities to start anew with a new username.

At this point, I just want others to be very much aware of this person's business practices and to think twice about paying Nathradas for art because there's a huge possibility that they will never see their art or a refund.

[edit]I have been blocked from her page.

[edit]I have received a third party refund on behalf of the artist.

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thaily
Dec. 24th, 2014 10:40 pm (UTC)
Aw, sorry this happened to you, that sucks :(
aerospiritual
Dec. 25th, 2014 11:01 am (UTC)
yeahhhh... it's pretty frustrating, especially when I've tried to work with her and on her terms, and she really wants none of it.
kalika_tybera
Dec. 24th, 2014 11:03 pm (UTC)
I'm so disappointed... I followed her art for a long time, she does beautiful work. It's utterly sad to see someone with talent -steal- from people and dodge responsibility like this.
All I can say is I hope somehow she owns up to her mistakes and refunds you, but if it's been this long then that's looking very unlikely.
aerospiritual
Dec. 25th, 2014 10:44 am (UTC)
yeah, especially when she's actively deleting my comments. I'm unable to garner any response via private message, e-mail, or the ilk and I'm pretty sure that at this point, she has absolutely no intention of refunding me or anyone else that she has stolen money from.
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eli_daggertooth
Dec. 25th, 2014 05:08 am (UTC)
They moved accounts and made a new character? Sounds like they are trying to make a new identity, as if it all never happened. they want a 'clean' slate, when in fact they are just running from it. That's terrible, I am sorry, 3 years is... too long...
aerospiritual
Dec. 25th, 2014 10:51 am (UTC)
that's pretty much the feeling I'm getting as well.

I don't ever really expect to see my money or the art, but the least I can do is be a squeaky wheel and inform people that doing business with this person comes with a lot of risks.
(no subject) - eli_daggertooth - Dec. 27th, 2014 10:53 am (UTC) - Expand
kazeno_taka
Dec. 25th, 2014 05:44 am (UTC)
I will never understand artists who use the "I'm sorry, I just don't have the money to refund anyone" excuse. You were paid for a product. If you cannot produce that product, then the money does not belong to you. I really don't care what the situation is - you never have the right to take someone's money and not deliver the promised product. You don't get to just turn it into a donation because you've "lost your inspiration" and "have no energy".

I get it. I've had awful periods in life where I just can't pick up the paintbrush, but I would never tell a client to get lost and not offer their money back. Give them their art or their money back. It's that simple.

Edited at 2014-12-25 05:44 am (UTC)
latiro
Dec. 25th, 2014 10:11 am (UTC)
This, so much.
(no subject) - aerospiritual - Dec. 25th, 2014 10:59 am (UTC) - Expand
fastbreak333
Dec. 25th, 2014 11:36 am (UTC)
Nathradas, draw what the customer paid for or refund him. You can keep running away as if nothing happened but eventually your debts will catch up to you. I know it's hard, but if you don't face them head on now, it's only going to get even harder.
shark5060
Dec. 25th, 2014 12:04 pm (UTC)
Have you reported her to PayPal and/or FurAffinity? I don't think that they want some scammer on their page.

I am sorry this happened to you - and three years are a fckin long time.
lackoflollies
Dec. 25th, 2014 11:23 pm (UTC)
FurAffinity won't do anything about it, that much I can assure you of. Paypal, on the other hand..
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dimespin
Dec. 25th, 2014 03:59 pm (UTC)
Oh my goodness. I didn't even realize Sturmschwinge was Nathradas. I am so mad I was deceived, but glad to be aware now. I'm sorry this happened to you.
aerospiritual
Dec. 26th, 2014 12:18 am (UTC)
is there anyway we can have "Sturmschwinge" added to the tags? that's the name she posts under now.
celestinaketzia
Dec. 26th, 2014 12:21 am (UTC)
mod comment
At this moment we can't. Livejournal has a limit on tag length, and no matter what combination we try her names get cut off. We've been discussing how we're going to be handling cases like this, as she isn't the only artist whose names don't fit on tags.

edit: It should also be noted that communities are allowed a maximum of 1,000 tags, so making a new one would eat up precious tag space.

Edited at 2014-12-26 12:22 am (UTC)
Re: mod comment - aerospiritual - Dec. 26th, 2014 05:29 am (UTC) - Expand
mortymaxwell
Dec. 26th, 2014 02:04 am (UTC)
So she's blocked you now? That was really unprofessional of her. >
aerospiritual
Dec. 26th, 2014 05:36 am (UTC)
yeah, fully.

I think it completely sends the message that she has no desire to be professional and rectify this situation- all I really can do now is just warn others of her conduct.

though I wonder if reporting her to EF staff and various vendors would be taking things too far? I just don't want other people to get the bite, but I really don't want to cross any boundaries either.
(no subject) - lackoflollies - Dec. 26th, 2014 08:17 pm (UTC) - Expand
Jane Vakarian
Dec. 26th, 2014 11:41 am (UTC)
Wow, this is just....kinda disgusting.
She blocked you. Shes stealing off people.
likeshine
Dec. 26th, 2014 05:55 pm (UTC)

how do people like this not feel guilty? dang. i'm sorry this has happened!
thistlewolf
Dec. 27th, 2014 11:23 pm (UTC)
It sucks that you're still dealing with that mess :C

Thank you for the update though. Skipping accounts and changing names has been the MO of so many repeat offenders, so it's always nice to be alerted.
jemindra
Dec. 30th, 2014 04:50 pm (UTC)
Still irks me that she refunded me some months ago... And still, not you. Probably because of the price difference but that shouldn't be an issue.
aerospiritual
Jan. 10th, 2015 10:38 pm (UTC)
I have received a refund from a third party on behalf of the artist.

While I would like to consider this matter resolved, the rather rude message, and the artist's conduct throughout leaves a bad taste in my mouth and I feel that this beware still very much stands.
celestinaketzia
Jan. 10th, 2015 10:40 pm (UTC)
Oh gosh what even is that? Well, if you consider it resolved we can tag it as such.
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