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Watch out for Loupgaru

loupgaru AKA L. G. Liang Aka funkywolfen@yahoo.com
http://loupgarou.livejournal.com/profile
Be careful with this guy He owes me some work from 3 years ago; and a few other people have been ripped off by him. For $115 USD he eventually sent me 25 low res prints instead of what I paid for. He's banned from Furbid and probably Fureauction; lives in malaysia and is difficult to contact and has a real nasty attitude! EG
http://loupgarou.livejournal.com/205147.html
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scappo
May. 23rd, 2006 01:06 am (UTC)
I have also dealt with him. Luckily in the end, I got my art, but it took him two years to complete it!!

Yes, he does have a very sour attitude, and does not enjoy drawing furry art anymore. I suggest that if anyone is after any sort of anthropomorphic art not to go to him. He's lost his enthusiasm for it.

If you want other more stylized stuff, he may be a little more enthusiastic about it, but again there's no telling if you'll get what you paid for. He is very difficult to contact and even more difficult to build a rapport with. I'd advise that unless you're fanatical about his stuff (which is admittedly very detailed and attractive) it's not worth the trouble to get it. There are a lot of other more personable artists out there.
xianjaguar
May. 23rd, 2006 01:07 am (UTC)
From your comments in the linked post: May the fleas of a thousand syphilitic camels infest your armpits; if that's not too cruel for the fleas.

LOL....!! I've heard the saying before, but not for a looong time. Made me giggle.

I'm sorry though that you're having so much trouble with him. You're not the first person either. I've heard complaints from others. :(
darkyo
May. 23rd, 2006 06:07 am (UTC)
that quote was from one of the Hitchiker's series, I believe.
dunaerin
May. 23rd, 2006 01:19 am (UTC)
I dunno if your insults and wishes of torture were nessecary, though.... art issues aside, a little much on your count. Perhaps calm, adult talking would have better handled the situation?
aaaamory
May. 23rd, 2006 01:28 am (UTC)
With loupgarou? Hmmm... I don't think so. I know about him.
(no subject) - dunaerin - May. 23rd, 2006 01:41 am (UTC) - Expand
No legal means available. - moldred - May. 23rd, 2006 04:29 am (UTC) - Expand
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Re: No legal means available. - crssafox - May. 23rd, 2006 12:51 pm (UTC) - Expand
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Re: No legal means available. - dunaerin - May. 23rd, 2006 07:06 pm (UTC) - Expand
(no subject) - moonstone_wind - Jul. 12th, 2006 04:30 pm (UTC) - Expand
When did you say that? - moldred - Jul. 12th, 2006 06:14 pm (UTC) - Expand
Re: When did you say that? - moonstone_wind - Jul. 12th, 2006 06:30 pm (UTC) - Expand
Re: When did you say that? - moldred - Jul. 12th, 2006 06:51 pm (UTC) - Expand
That was after - moldred - May. 23rd, 2006 04:18 am (UTC) - Expand
duraji_synth
May. 23rd, 2006 01:27 am (UTC)
Well, I was hoping to commission something from him... now I dunno. He's extremely skilled, but it's a shame that I only found him immediately when he decided to mostly shun the fandom. :/
thaily
May. 23rd, 2006 07:22 am (UTC)
Shun the non-believers! Shuuuuun! ;D
moonstone_wind
May. 23rd, 2006 01:54 am (UTC)
I talk to him personaly at least once a week. Hes been VERY VERY busy and having issues that are personal and I wont divuldge, just talk to him in a professional and calm manner before stating this sort of "reaction" because I know this alone would prolly tick him off esp if youve not contacted him on his email or AIM etc first. He may be a harsh/blunt person but hey I would rather someone be honest to me than lie. I think perhaps you might be going about this the wrong way, esp when I know hes way backlogged and trying to finish stuff while supporting his family.
moldred
May. 23rd, 2006 04:10 am (UTC)
B S
He's got you hoodwinked. I doubt he has a family. I was very patient and understanding until two years after he told me he had no copies of the artwork he claimed to have sent me; he put the same piece up for bid on furbid!
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thaily
May. 23rd, 2006 07:21 am (UTC)
I bought a sketchbook from him and received it promptly, well-packaged and I had to sign for it.
vulgaris
May. 23rd, 2006 01:33 pm (UTC)
Re: B S
Most people who know LG enough to be friends to him and come here and defend him would say that he is 1.) a very exquisite artist who puts a lot of honest hard work into his commissions, 2.) a very onry man with a lot of obligations to his family and work, and 3.) a very overworked person who needs a vacation (especially from the furry fandom).

All of this being said, I stll would not tell people not to commission LG. For the few people who have had problems with him there are many that have gained wonderful pieces of art from his work.
moldred
May. 23rd, 2006 01:46 pm (UTC)
Re: B S
Why? There are tons of better artists who are much easier to work with. Did you ever actually see him draw anything?
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dustmeat
May. 23rd, 2006 02:22 pm (UTC)
I thought he Left the Fandom already
moldred
May. 23rd, 2006 04:43 pm (UTC)
GWTBW
From your mouth to God's (or goddess's) ear.
(no subject) - martes - May. 23rd, 2006 06:18 pm (UTC) - Expand
pseudomanitou
May. 23rd, 2006 06:59 pm (UTC)
Those of you know me know I have slammed against Loup for various reasons, but I am honestly thinking aside from that.

Loup's pattern is easy to recognize...

He conducts business in a very personal matter. If he respects you, he will make an effort to conduct himself properly. If he does not find reason to give you consideration, you will be set aside. Take your chances.

I do not know of his personal obligations, but refunds and/or simply not taking commissions in the first place is not too much to ask. I myself warn people that any commission may take months, and I am always polite to any reminder of my obligations - it takes no effort to have some tact online.

This is NOT the way professional art for hire is done. If a person believes they can manage to work with someone as temperamental and undisciplined, then that is there choice.

He is what he is, and some may find that to be acceptable. But have no illusions -- there is no excuse for his actions otherwise.
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moldred
May. 24th, 2006 05:15 pm (UTC)
I know
---
T. T. T.
Put up in a place where it's easy to see
the cryptic admonishment: T. T. T.
When you feel how depressingly slowly you climb,
it's well to remember that Things Take Time.
--- Grooks by Piet Hein

just stay in touch even to say "nothing to show yet" Okey?
corwynamberstar
May. 24th, 2006 01:19 am (UTC)
A simple observation.
This happened 3 yrs ago. Last year you revived the arguement. Now you're moaning again. Get over it. All this simply looks like a personal vendetta in order to prevent LG from making any money by getting commissioned work, in order to get a perverse revenge for being slighted.

Conversely, It might simply be that you've been burned, seen others get burned, and genuinely wanted to warn people.

Your replies to other people here, and obvious contempt for thier opinions, does make the first more likely.

Move on. It would, after all, make you the better man.
moldred
May. 24th, 2006 01:56 am (UTC)
Re: A simple observation.
I've lost touch with artists who owed me work and some of them may have ripped me off. I chalked it up and moved on. What galls me about Mr. Liang Is
1 he made no serious attempt to replace or refund the supposedly lost art.
2 rather than send me copies he claimed to have shredded them.
3 two years after he supposedly destroyed all copies he offered them for sale on Furbid!
4 he said he'd send me the copies and sent his discard pile instead.
ayukawataur (Furbid Admin) has all the correspondence back and forth.
Again: He lives out of legal reach so all I can do is warn others. I had left it all behind until I saw a link for this journal, guess whose name popped in my head?
Re: A simple observation. - b_dogskennel - May. 24th, 2006 03:10 am (UTC) - Expand
Re: A simple observation. - moldred - May. 24th, 2006 04:23 am (UTC) - Expand
Re: A simple observation. - b_dogskennel - May. 24th, 2006 05:40 am (UTC) - Expand
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