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Artist Beware - Sugarfactory (resolved)

WHO: SUGARFACTORY

WHERE: http://www.furaffinity.net/user/sugarfactory

WHAT: A box with fursuit accesoires, which was included in our deal about buying a second-hand partial.

WHEN: I started contact around April 2013. It's now been 17 months since I didn't get the box she promised she will send.

PROOF: Where to start ;) These are screenshots from skype.
She said she would include the extra if I would fo with the buyout deal ($1100) http://i.imgur.com/QtCV0nw.png .
8th May 2013, promising more stuff: http://i.imgur.com/XUg5km9.pnghttp://i.imgur.com/UtPbn1i.png
19th May 2013: My box arrived but not everything was included (the extra's). Checking with her http://i.imgur.com/xIsrPXo.png
25 June 2013: Promising her a box in return: http://i.imgur.com/uSDOOl7.png
27 June 2013: She wanted to include in the box a set of extra handpaws since the ones I got in the buyout deal weren't in good condition. http://i.imgur.com/rJqIAot.png
11 November 2013: http://i.imgur.com/H4zkB2V.png Telling her to skip the handpaws if must because I really would love my stuff at some point.
13 January 2014: She keeps stating she will send the box and is working on it...  http://i.imgur.com/qlbJykT.png
15 March 2014: I've send her my box, with worth over 120$ of stuff. http://i.imgur.com/vpXY2ev.png Also she promises me a tracking even without sending anything.
21 March 2014: She lost the tracking it seems.. http://i.imgur.com/RQF0RGV.png
25 March 2014: Yes she lost it http://i.imgur.com/rMwlRp6.png And I never received the package since. but wait a minute? the fursuitaccesoires weren't included?
9 May 2014: http://i.imgur.com/9ThsE7g.png An excuse for not sending the box.
21 May 2014: http://i.imgur.com/N0XGVzF.png Saying to stop putting anything in the box extra and just send it to me.
May 2014: Ignoring me http://i.imgur.com/T7cBgaL.png
5 June 2014: I wrote a message to her that I was despressed with not getting anything http://i.imgur.com/Ohuuz54.png . also http://i61.tinypic.com/1zdma9u.png saying that I would love to pay to get it here
24 July 2014: She's sending a box soon, because she's selling another suit, asking her if she will send mine too.. http://i.imgur.com/aF9XYi5.png
29 August 2014: Her fursuit she sold, has arrived at the new owner. Mine again... not send. http://www.furaffinity.net/view/14401597/
Today (27 September):  https://twitter.com/sugarypuppy/status/515870207848374272 First time I ever EVER see a picture of stuff that would been send my way. But where's the bandana's? Jail-Plushie? Only recognizable thing is the tail.

I can give you a lot more screenshots if you like.

EXPLAIN:
Sugarfactory sold her fursuitpartial "Jail" from OneEyedDoe in April 2013. She said if I would get the buyoutdeal instead of bidding, I would get extra's. As you can see in the links, she later promised more and more stuff. I was so exciting and I thought we were really friends.
THANK GOD I've received the most important part: the partial. The fursuit is with me and I'm suiting with it over 1,5 years now, I'm really thankful for that.
It surprised me that she didn't send everything that was in our deal in that first fursuit box (19th may). Also later suddently, in a second box that never arrived, she said that the fursuitstuff weren't included (25th of March.)
One thing that made the package take long was that she commissioned extra handpaws because mine were a bit old now, at Autumnfallings. But they took so long that I said to her to get her money back, leave them out of our deal, and just send me the box.
I also though that sending a box back, would help our friendship. I did send a box with Dutch treats and candy and toys, but never got a box from her back. Lost? Never been send? I'm not sure.
The problem since the beginning was:

- She said she will send it <..insert day here..>
- She said it failed <..insert excuse here..>.

Really, she gave every excuse possible. No money, sick, floodings, postal office closed, adress lost, busy, ow and when she had no money I offered to pay the shipping, but she refused.
I even have PROOF that she send out other boxes and stuff as well.. but why not MINE? (The second fursuit she sells 29 August) The only thing I said over the last YEAR was "Please when will the box be send?" and than the above steps took place.

She stated later that, this box she owes me are all GIFTS and she can take the time she needs

Update (29-9-2014): Sugarfactory promised to send out the box this Monday. The content is discussed. I will update when I received a working Track&Trace.
Update (6-10-2014)  Package send 1 oct. Tracking works and it's on its way to Europe


About the critique in the comments below:
Yes, I used some inmature language and was angry. I read the termes about keeping it polite on this forum but I didn't always keep that in mind and I'm sorry for this.

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Comments

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rueq
Sep. 28th, 2014 11:34 pm (UTC)
I winced slightly when I saw that she has yet another post on here. I really do hope you can resolve this! Her art is really cute but the posts here have put me off commissioning her :c
Also, your last link (27th Sept one) doesn't work.
mazz
Sep. 29th, 2014 01:51 am (UTC)
Seems someone linked her to this.
http://www.furaffinity.net/journal/6152191/
sugarypuppy
Sep. 29th, 2014 02:05 am (UTC)
Post to the full journal that included my defense and explanation since the full details exceed the amount allotted for response (http://www.furaffinity.net/journal/6152191/).

I am happy to clarify anything else, thank you for your time!
kayla_la
Sep. 29th, 2014 02:13 am (UTC)
I'm a little confused about one thing, if you don't mind! So you both agreed to send boxes of fursuit stuff to each other, yes? They sent you yours, and you haven't sent out theirs? I don't understand why this wouldn't qualify as a trade?

I'm not trying to be accusatory or the like, I'm just genuinely confused on these issues. To me, it looks like you agreed to a trade, still haven't sent it out, and refused to let them pay you so you could send it out. A year+ is a long time.
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sbneko
Sep. 29th, 2014 06:05 am (UTC)
You may want to re-comment this as reply to Sugarypuppy, because they won't be notified you replied when it's a normal comment.
sugarypuppy
Sep. 29th, 2014 08:40 am (UTC)
UPDATE:

Oooh, I see she posted something about me on twitter on how I am trying to get people to "take sides" when I stated: Now, this is not an attempt to get the article taken down, but rarely you get to hear what happened on the other end of the spectrum. In this case, I really do feel that the screenshots and information used were constructed in a way to be more harmful than informative.

NOTE - This is not an attempt to get the A_B taken down. Just to offer my side of the situation.

Proof of the twitter post: http://i.imgur.com/7lOWexk.png

Now, posting a social media website that "She is getting people on her side" is a little iffy to me?
celestinaketzia
Sep. 29th, 2014 10:35 am (UTC)
To both you and especially the OP, there are no "sides". Everyone has the right to come in and tell us what happened, especially the person the post is about.

The A_B can't be removed, but we can always mark it as resolved.

As an aside, we really don't appreciate the "call to arms" on behalf of the OP. A_B is not drama, nor is the intent of the community to be drama.
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Jane Vakarian
Sep. 29th, 2014 08:48 am (UTC)
Good on sugar for handling this amazingly well.
sugarypuppy
Sep. 29th, 2014 09:06 am (UTC)
When I mess up, I mess up! I admit to taking too long for shipping the tail and I will not omit or try to hide the fact.
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sugarypuppy
Sep. 29th, 2014 11:24 am (UTC)
It was agreed that the issue was me not sending the box with the owed items. The question of it was or was not a trade has been answered; it was a gift box type deal between friends, not a transaction or exchange.

"[5:30:01 AM] sugar booger: The issue is this: I did not ask for a box, you offered it IN RETURN for my giving you extras. It was done in the spirit of friendship and in the light that we were just going to send each other things.
[5:30:20 AM] sugar booger: This was not a transaction. This was not "I am going to send you chocolate for your tail."
[5:31:29 AM] sugar booger: That's where my view stands, yours is that I agreed to a trade. I agreed to send items in return for a box.
[5:34:34 AM] O.P: We did it as friends but you never returned a single box. That's my problem. You offered and offered and you make the box look so nice but never sending it doesn't make you a nice person."

I am sure you are all begging for this to stop haha! As promised to her in Skype, I will deliver the bandanna, plush, tail and badge today (Monday).
lynxpebbles
Sep. 29th, 2014 02:19 pm (UTC)
You repeatedly promised her that you were sending the box, and you repeatedly failed to do so.

Even though it might be out of scope for A_B, it's still a shitty thing to do.
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sugarypuppy
Sep. 29th, 2014 02:15 pm (UTC)
I have an important update concernig the shipping: My mother has told me we will be able to go on Wednesday. I asked her to write a note to prove that I had asked, and I asked her to sign it. I also included an example of my handwriting to show that my mother's note was not forged: http://i.imgur.com/WXzCBkJ.jpg (her note) *EDIT EDIT EDIT* I had to delete the original 'comparison' because it had the OP's address on it. I will find another suitable example**

If I had a working vehicle, I would do it myself. (I can provide pictures of the engine light if necessary. It's no trouble.)

But this is an update on the shipping situation. Included is a signed note by my mother stating that the items will be shipped on Wednesday. There is nothing I can do since she is my only ride until my car is repaired.

EDIT
*ADDITIONAL EXAMPLE OF HANDWRITING COMPARISON: http://i.imgur.com/uhpyUjQ.jpg

Edited at 2014-09-29 02:30 pm (UTC)
celestinaketzia
Sep. 29th, 2014 02:53 pm (UTC)
If you have the option locally, you can purchase and print postage online and have your carrier pick it up. I'm in Bryan/College Station and we have it near TAMU.
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roxyfur
Sep. 29th, 2014 02:50 pm (UTC)
Tbh, even though sugar has taken an extremely long time to send the items in the fursuit transaction, OPs attitude towards this makes me less inclined to sympathize more with her. The tweets about it, the sarcastic smiley faces in response to sugar's comments and her use of caps lock in the post are pretty immature.

I hope your items get shipped out soon, OP. But it would benefit you to try to remain more calm in situations like this in the future.
tyrano_tiggs
Sep. 29th, 2014 04:01 pm (UTC)
Yeah not excusing Sugar in anyway (although it is refreshing to see her actively trying to resolve the situation unlike a lot of people featured here) but the tone of the beware really doesn't sit right with me.
" I wrote a message to her that I was despressed with not getting anything", a message which was "Ok :(", "THANK GOD, I've received the most important part: the partial", all caps....I don't know it might just be personal preference but I'm always a bit "eh" about informally written bewares.

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eli_daggertooth
Sep. 30th, 2014 11:03 am (UTC)
I think it's good sugar is trying to fix the situation, they have been really professional and level headed about this. Hope things work out!
yarbro
Sep. 30th, 2014 09:22 pm (UTC)
While both had communication and made mistakes on both sides. It is very clear that one is more professional about it than the other.
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oceandezignz
Oct. 1st, 2014 11:58 pm (UTC)
MOD COMMENT
I'm going to screen this, as its more for the OP than anyone else and really should have been sent to them privately.
Re: MOD COMMENT - sugarypuppy - Oct. 1st, 2014 11:59 pm (UTC) - Expand
spartanwerewolf
Oct. 2nd, 2014 06:33 am (UTC)
Sugarypuppy needs to quit arguing over semantics and just ship the damn box.
Jane Vakarian
Oct. 2nd, 2014 08:40 am (UTC)
I dont think I took any of sugars tones as arguing.

She handled this well and it was clear clarification was needed on some subjects. Which I think is fair to ask if theres a misunderstanding about something.

Not excusing her for not shipping the box, but I think it was handled quite well the whole time.
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