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Sort of New, in need of some advice.

I didn't use the format because I don't want to official post about someone here. I'm more of just looking for advice on the situation.

I was contacted by a potential client for a badge during a sale I was having. They were speaking in a mix of broken English and chat speak, but I've had clients who communicate that way before in the past and didn't put too much thought into it. I did the usual of sending them my Terms of Service, payment explanation and such, but when it came time for them to send payment they suddenly backed out. From what I can see, they gave me no real reason for it, but just suddenly declined the payment and sent me a note saying that they wanted to withdraw the commission.
I thought it might have just been a lack of funds or "buyers remorse", but a few minutes later they posted on my page saying that I was doing the commission, and then a few moments directly after sent me another message confirming that they would not be following through with the commission (which, I'll be honest, I was a little relieved because the communication was so poor that I had to ask them for their reference five times).
I clicked to their page and realized that the account is completely new and that they've been messaging a mass array of artists looking for work. I'm not sure if this is a red flag or not? I've never had something like this happen before. I mean, I've had clients realize they didnt have the funds, but I've never had anyone back out, and then make a public announcement that I was doing their commission for them right afterward. I can't help but feel like they're looking for artists who will being work before payment is received. Maybe I'm reading too deeply into it though, which is why I didn't want to post the username.


Also, on an unrelated note, is it okay to post positive reviews of commissioners here?

Thank you all so much for your help, opinions and advice!

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arphalia
May. 27th, 2014 02:47 am (UTC)
MOD NOTE
"Also, on an unrelated note, is it okay to post positive reviews of commissioners here?"

Once a month we have a Positive Review Post for people to submit to. Check the tags for "positive feedback" or click here for past posts: http://artists-beware.livejournal.com/tag/positive%20feedback :)
whendigo
May. 28th, 2014 04:31 am (UTC)
Re: MOD NOTE
Thank you very much! I'll be keeping an eye out for next month's. I've got a few clients who have been just dreams to work with.
arphalia
May. 27th, 2014 02:58 am (UTC)
Honestly, if I were in your shoes, I'd be wondering the same thing.

It seems like an odd way to go about it, but people use confusion tactics IRL to scam people so the worry certainly isn't unfounded. One way to avoid that sort of thing is to keep clear and organized personal records of who paid/cancelled/etc so if they come back acting as if they have paid, you can very quickly be sure that they haven't.

As for this one in particular, you can let them know that you have them down as cancelled/unpaid and that you require a couple weeks (or whatever time frame you want) before they can inquire about a commission again. If they had a true "oops moment" this time, maybe they'll come back and be more collected. Otherwise, they will probably just move on to more immediate targets (if they are targeting!)
whendigo
May. 28th, 2014 04:33 am (UTC)
If I'm honest, after this experience and going with my gut feeling, I likely won't be willing to work with them in the future. The communication was just too poor.

I really just fear for other artists. I'm pretty strict with my "I don't begin until payment clears", but I know that a lot of newer artists will get excited and begin right away.
starcharmer
May. 27th, 2014 03:04 am (UTC)
I have no advice, I just wanted to say that I have never had that happen to me either and I would be just as confused...how strange. o_O I'll definitely be reading the comments just in case this happens to me someday. :P
sableantelope
May. 27th, 2014 04:25 am (UTC)
You can also post your positive reviews on http://artistrecommend.livejournal.com/
(the AB staff are nice enough to let is add the monthly review recommendations over to our tags list as well)
whendigo
May. 28th, 2014 04:34 am (UTC)
That's awesome. I have more wonderful clients than I've had bad experiences :)
thaily
May. 27th, 2014 10:15 am (UTC)
I think you have it right; sounds like they might have been fishing for free work, some people negotiate commissions in the hope the artist will start before they're paid and they'll get a free sketch out of it or whatever.

Don't start work before you've received at least 50% up front.
nellyaa
May. 27th, 2014 11:58 am (UTC)
I mean, even IF I started a commission before payment, I would never show the client the WIP/sketch or whatever I started before recieving payment. Because that's just stuff for free then and no money = no picture. Not even WIPs.
It would just sound reaaally weird if the client asked "I won't buy it but have you started working on it yet? Can I see it?".
Yeaah.. nope.
whendigo
May. 28th, 2014 04:35 am (UTC)
You'd be surprised. I have a few friends who are new to "the game" and have been tricked into doing free art already. I've been in business (maybe not the business of art, but in business in general) long enough to know better. Not everyone has good intentions, unfortunately. It's a minority, but they're out there.
yuki_fox_demon
May. 28th, 2014 01:51 am (UTC)
Unrelated, but your icon <3 so adorable
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