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Artists Beware: Verilotte

WHO: Verilotte

WHERE: http://www.furaffinity.net/user/verilotte/

WHAT: Sold a character that wasn't theirs to TWO different people. Sold it to me for $200.

WHEN: May.11.2014

1. http://s26.postimg.cc/55ajvn86x/image.png
They posted that they were selling this character. The REAL owner of this character put this character up for sale at the start of May and then decided to keep him. However, often people change their minds and sell in private. Which is what I thought happened.

The REAL owner (I have hidden their name since they have done nothing wrong, see later) has this posted up on their adoptable account. So following the trail it seemed legit that they were sold to verilotte.

Someone had even mailed the REAL owner's main account asking if they had actually sold the dreamy to Verilotte.

So I concluded from what I could get that verilotte did in fact own that character. I offered $200 to buy him and they accepted.
They asked me to send payment which I did do.

Two hours later the REAL owner post this journal about being hacked:
I found out through this journal that an hour after I bought this character for $200 someone else bought the SAME character for $250. I'm sure they will be making their own post about this issue, but I was SHOCKED it was sold twice. Will link once she does.

I went to mail the REAL owner to see what was up:

I believe that her accounts where actually hacked.
I am just in shock how far people will go to steal and sell adoptables. I did my best to check up on how legit they were to be selling the character but I found myself scammed in the end.

+There have been many reports to fA staff about this, I have reported it as well
+I have made a claim on paypal. The buyer has until May 21st to reply. Will update after that. If paypal doesn't side will me I WILL be going to my bank since half of it was paid out of my bank account.

Edit;// May.17.2014
The other victim of this told me that she had LOST her paypal claim because Verilotte had "more evidence" than her. I looked at my claim and it says that paypal is reviewing the claim. I called paypal up right away and they told me that I had to file a claim with my bank as well (because half was paid out of my bank). I drove down to my bank and filed a claim with them as well. Pretty much both my bank and paypal are now looking into the issue.

We both also have been trying to contact the fA staff with more information about the hacking with NO REPLY. We both tried to post shouts about it on dragoneer's wall as well. This might be the missing information I need to win my claim. Because Verilotte had "more evidence" than the other victim and I have no idea what they have, so the information from fA would be really handy.

Edit:// May.20.2014
So paypal limited my account and closed the claim because I made a claim with my bank, which paypal told me to do. I am really unsure what is going on with my claim at the moment but I am going to call both paypal and my bank in the morning.
When I go to look at the transaction tho this pops up:
So it looks like I WILL be getting my money back, I hope.

Edit:// May.20.2014
I was able to get my paypal account unlocked, and my money back. I am unsure if the admins want to make this as "resolved" because I did have to get through my bank and paypal to get my refund. I would still suggest everyone to stay away from Verilotte as I have not heard from them at all about the issue. They apparently responded to the claim, however paypal did side with me.

Edit:// June.26.2015
Replaced broken images.

Edit:// April.30.2018
Replaced broken images (Postimage switched their website from .com to .cc)

Final Verdict: I was refunded my $200 by filing claims with paypal and my bank. Both my bank and paypal sided with me about this issue.

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( 55 comments — Leave a comment )
May. 17th, 2014 03:59 am (UTC)
Please do not side track this post with comments about the cost of the adopt, and/or adopt 'ethics'.
May. 17th, 2014 04:05 am (UTC)
The user has disabled access to their profile page.:\
May. 17th, 2014 04:10 am (UTC)
You can access those accounts by replacing 'user' with 'gallery' or 'journal' in the URL.
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May. 17th, 2014 04:07 am (UTC)
Oh wow sorry to hear this, I really hope PP sides with you as well. (I assume you sent it as payment and not as a gift?)

It seems Verilotte disabled her account, I can only speculate why, but if people found out she scammed more than one person out of 200+ $, then I can see a reason.
May. 18th, 2014 01:22 am (UTC)
No, I did not send it as a gift. I heard that the person who also filed a claim got their claim rejected.
I called paypal because my case is currently "under review" and they said I needed to file THE SAME claim with my bank since I paid for half of it through my bank account.
I hung up the phone and went directly to my bank and filed with them as well.

It is still up in the air but pretty much paypal PLUS my bank are both looking into the matter. It makes me extremely nervous that the other person did not get their money back from paypal.

Edit:// I changed my post because for some reason I wrote "Yes I did send it as a gift" which is very untrue. My payment statement show it as a payment for a "goods or service".
Sorry for the confusion, I am really not sure why I wrote that in the first place.

Edited at 2014-05-20 05:16 am (UTC)
(no subject) - exo_formicidae - May. 20th, 2014 09:33 pm (UTC) - Expand
May. 17th, 2014 04:11 am (UTC)
I would give PP a call ASAP and try to get refund.
May. 18th, 2014 01:24 am (UTC)
Yes, I have called twice now. I filed a claim as well.
Like I said to the person before paypal said I need to file with my bank (and I did) and both my bank and paypal are looking into it.

It makes me really scared because the other person who filed against verilotte lost their claim to paypal. So I'm unsure what is going on with it right now. Mine is "under review"
May. 17th, 2014 04:28 am (UTC)
Omg, I hope you and the other victim get your money back. How awful they hacked accounts to commit this scam.
May. 18th, 2014 01:24 am (UTC)
The other victim got their claim rejected by paypal actually :( I am really scared the same thing is going to happen to me as well.
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May. 18th, 2014 01:25 am (UTC)
Yeah no kidding.. I really try to keep myself out of the drama and things, and I thought by doing some checking up on this adopt I would be safe in buying.. but apparently not so.

Out of all my adopts that have passed in and out of my hands nothing this bad, or big has ever exploded. I am really just hoping to get my money back @^@;;
May. 17th, 2014 04:55 am (UTC)
I'm not too sure how I feel about the real owner being hacked. Seems like an awful lot of work to go through to get one character. And to not change the password/email for the main account kind of raises a few questions also...
Notice how the original artist has 'potentially' for sale on the page? I think this is more a case of 'sellers remorse' than a hacking. But then again I've seen too many 'i was hacked' stories turn out to be false, so I could be wrong.
May. 17th, 2014 05:15 am (UTC)
That is what I would be thinking too, except the supposed "hacker" sold the character to more than one person.
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May. 17th, 2014 01:04 pm (UTC)
Man, lately it seems that AB has been getting some adoptable bewares. I am sorry this happened to you, I cant imagine how it feels! I really hope that paypal sides with you! :(
May. 18th, 2014 01:32 am (UTC)
Yeah it is sad that it had to come to a beware :C I am sorry it happened to me as well! I really hope paypal sides with me as well. Currently my case is "under review" so we'll see what happens.
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May. 17th, 2014 05:50 pm (UTC)
Also the owner deleted the journal about supposedly being hacked.
May. 18th, 2014 01:33 am (UTC)
I also noticed this as well, and I am very glad I had a screencap of it. If I had just linked to the journal my whole paypal claim would have fallen apart ;~; I'm not sure why they deleted it tho.
(no subject) - hidden_kyuubi - May. 18th, 2014 02:02 am (UTC) - Expand
May. 18th, 2014 08:12 am (UTC)
the hacking claim is rly suspicious and the fact the journal got deleted makes me think it was even more of a lie.. like... coincidentally someone was on the account to tell the person it had been sold for a lot of money like... uhmm
May. 19th, 2014 08:12 pm (UTC)
Sadly I can't say anything either way to the claim until fA gets back to my ticket about it. Who knows when that will be, but I am hoping soon.
May. 20th, 2014 05:28 am (UTC)
Try shooting Dragoneer a note, if you haven't already? I did it back when I was having issues with my account, and he got back to me within 48 hours.
May. 20th, 2014 08:46 pm (UTC)
Oh thanks for the input! I might have done that, but it seems paypal and my bank gave me back my money. So thankfully even without the aid of fA it seems it went over well for me.

Next time this happens (and I hope never) I'll be sure to mail him as well.~ Thanks~
(no subject) - hidden_kyuubi - May. 21st, 2014 11:26 am (UTC) - Expand
May. 23rd, 2014 11:05 pm (UTC)
I would only mark this resolved if you personally considered it resolved and asked us to. Considering you had to go through paypal for the money, I would prefer to leave the beware tag in place. I can however add the resolved tag on top of it, and have done so.

Also, don't expect a reply from FA staff. It seems like since they let go Bazeel, they are distancing themselves from helping deal with scammers. I can only assume they don't want that kind of responsibility.
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