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Had this happen a few times over the years and just got to thinking about this. Can artists refuse a commission because they don't like an idea? I mean yeah I know every artist has the right to refuse commissions, but if its not posted in their terms of service or on a list on their page saying they will/won't draw certain fetishes, then can they just say I don't like said idea so I won't draw it. I'm sure this might be coming off as a dumb question but it just seems that through this way, a commissioner has to bend more to the artist's way of things in order to get a commission done by said artist. That if the artist doesn't enjoy drawing the pic, then its not worth doing.

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jinoki
May. 11th, 2014 08:20 pm (UTC)
Yes an artist has every right to refuse a client or a subject the client wishes to have made. It might seem a bit unfair if they do not have it listened, but it is very hard to list every single subject you are not willing to do.
kayla_la
May. 11th, 2014 08:21 pm (UTC)
Short answer: Yes.

it just seems that through this way, a commissioner has to bend more to the artist's way of things in order to get a commission done by said artist

It's not like when you're hired by a company with a paycheque and you don't get to choose your work. You're being compensated fairly for that. When you're doing fandom work for the equivalent of peanuts, you get to be more choosy, and that's fair. At least, in my personal opinion. Why draw something you dread the idea of drawing for $20?

That said, there's always an artist out there that will draw what you want, you just have to find them. If you want a -specific- artist and they won't draw what you want, I can agree that that sucks, but sometimes you just don't get your way, and that's how it is.
funkicarus
May. 11th, 2014 08:25 pm (UTC)
artists absolutely have the right to refuse any commission for any reason.

what they DON'T have a right to do is say they'll do it, take your money, change their mind and then not refund the money.

i'm getting the impression you asked artists if they would draw something for you and they frequently refused on the basis of the subject matter. if you want an artist to draw something that is questionable, be prepared to pay a premium for it. if you are expecting their normal rates for something that's ...not their normal art? you're not going to get very far.

but yes, the long and short of it is: artists can refuse to work for you for any reason, and they're not obligated to tell you why.
friskecrisps
May. 12th, 2014 04:11 am (UTC)
No no its nothing like that. I can understand artists charging for adult content, characters with extra wings, markings, and so forth. What I'm getting it as like you see an artist you want to commission, you check out their will/will not draw list and such, message them about a commission with an idea only to get a response saying that they don't like your idea so they won't draw/write it.
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tisiphone
May. 11th, 2014 08:27 pm (UTC)
Yes, absolutely.
adzuki
May. 11th, 2014 08:29 pm (UTC)
Yes
celestinaketzia
May. 11th, 2014 08:32 pm (UTC)
Yes.

I know its not fun to be rejected based on your idea, but I'd rather someone do that then turn out a subpar item because they didn't care for the subject.

eta: wow, I butchered that post. Fixed it.

Edited at 2014-05-11 08:33 pm (UTC)
takesu
May. 11th, 2014 09:21 pm (UTC)
If I were to be forced to work on an idea I dislike I will feel less motivated to work on it. Sure it might turn out looking great but I won't feel great about it. That's where 'compensation' fees come in. :)
exo_formicidae
May. 11th, 2014 09:34 pm (UTC)
Yep - but there is still a right and a wrong way to decline something. Personally I find it hard writing in my ToS what I do or don't as It's way to fluid. so I just wrote up my extreme "will not do" and ask people to ask me for more specifics, trying to keep things as civil as possible ofc.
jakejynx
May. 11th, 2014 09:38 pm (UTC)
It's always been my opinion that a lot of artists are too picky about what they will or won't draw. Like, okay, you don't like this particular thing, but it's not like drawing it will kill you. That's just my personal opinion, though, and the vast majority of people do not agree with me. So yeah, artists can refuse to work with you for any reason, even if it's because you or your character are gay, or trans, or black, or asian, or... whatever. Doesn't matter. If they don't want to do it, they don't have to.
kattotang
May. 11th, 2014 10:08 pm (UTC)
"Like, okay, you don't like this particular thing, but it's not like drawing it will kill you."

How do you know it won't cause severe emotional distress for the artist? Or maybe they're really uncomfortable drawing things that are generally seen as morally wrong? Maybe they're thinking about their reputation and/or how they're viewed professionally by potential employers?

Artists aren't "picky" just because they have standards. They're just human, like everyone else.
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amocin
May. 11th, 2014 09:44 pm (UTC)
I have noticed that a lot of artists who like to pick and choose customers tend to have everybody email them at a particular time, and then the artist chooses which ideas strike them best. You may want to go with that method. Of saying that everybody can email you on a particular day with a commission request, and then pick the ones you want to do, and then email those you dont saying that your list is full.. heck, even if they all seem like good things you want to draw, you can pick those that most inspire you.

The list in the TOS that explains what an artist wont draw are typically just things they dont want to get emails about and tend to not want to constantly reply that they wont draw those things.
thaily
May. 11th, 2014 09:54 pm (UTC)
Yes.

Absolutely.

In fact it should be in your TOS that you can decline a commission for any reason without having to cite that reason.
kayla_na
May. 11th, 2014 10:01 pm (UTC)
Yes. Anyone that tells you otherwise can go jump in a lake.
dinogrrl
May. 11th, 2014 10:11 pm (UTC)
Just chiming in to say yes, absolutely, an artist can refuse a commission for any reason, whether or not it's specifically listed in their TOS. They're under no obligation at any time to accept a commission. The contract to complete artwork only exists once a commission agreement has been made.
sapphistscot
May. 11th, 2014 10:19 pm (UTC)
Speaking as a commissioner, if an artist said "sorry I don't like that idea" then I would accept that and move on. It's totally up to the artist what they will or will not draw and they are under no obligation to explain why they don't like your idea.
latiro
May. 11th, 2014 10:26 pm (UTC)
Echoing what others say. As a commissioner, I've been turned down by a few artists in the past and I understand their reason(s) and move one to something else.

So yes, they can turn down a commission if they didn't like the idea
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