WHAT: Tracing and attempting to resell
WHEN: March 6th 2014, 8am
I was linked to this image (http://i.imgur.com/otfK4kb.png <--NSFW) by another user at 8:55am. I opened it out of curiousity and it spoke for itself.
Barely less than ten hours ago i had uploaded this: http://i.imgur.com/3cbpQa3.jpg
An overlay of the image was done (http://i.imgur.com/IEfL9Ma.jpg)
I called her out about it. She takes the image down and writes this (http://i.imgur.com/xc7KPIu.jpg ) Claiming it was "Completely by myself" <---- yeah. no. She then deletes that journal and makes this one: (http://i.imgur.com/cx1Hyzs.jpg)
I then propose that if she supposedly drew it on her own, she should have no problem recreating it or at least getting pretty damn close. My direct words were "we can both redraw the image using the one I drew as a reference." She 'accepts' the challenge.
I went in her stream under the alias Vic Shaw. She apparently made it up in her mind that the challenge was to 'redraw it without any reference'. It wasn't. Her end result, none the less, was this: http://i.imgur.com/BTgRVJa.jpg <--NSFW
I responded with my own stream.
Doing one image with a ref and one without:
(NSFW) http://i.imgur.com/Kl8RGTv.jpg & (NSFW) http://i.imgur.com/8K6eA1I.jpg
Point of it being if you did draw it 'yourself' or even had a decent grasp on anatomy...at...all...you could indeed at least get very close with a ref. And at LEAST get a somewhat similar structure without.
...i'll let her 'proof' speak on it's own here.
I'm also quite certain it's a trace because even if a decent artist did ref my pose (i'm FULLY aware you can't copy right a pose), they'd either A. realize the leg farthest from the viewer is bad. I just gave up on it because it was originally just a doodle for fun. or B. change it at least slightly because it helps maintain some bit of originality in the pose of the new work and C. Extremely heavy referencing...especially if it's being sold has been KNOWN to cause issues to arise (i can link an example of a situation if needed/wanted)
Here is also the recording of my drawing as proof of use of ref and use without:
I also turned my cam on during it as proof that it was me and blah blah which i can also upload if that even comes into speculation.
I just cropped it out of the video to avoid looking like i was having an exorcism while that was playing at such a fast speed lolol.
This "artist" has had problems before as well. As seen on her old account in this journal here:
http://i.imgur.com/nBxoO9V.png?1 (the account is not deactivated)
I am unsure whether her 'past' issues were trace related or simply riding the coat tails of a style (which im aware isn't defended here) but I figured it was relevant. I also have screen shots of a note exchange between the previous artist she had issues with just confirming if she had with the same person i have.
As of July 29th 2014 a journal was posted by celestialgoddess/pagancraft apologizing for and admitting to tracing.
Found here http://www.furaffinity.net/journal/5979386/ (or in case of deletion: http://imgur.com/H0aj5tY )
While I personally am irked she dragged the lie out and played victim for as long as she did.
This is technically resolved with her agreement to not make the same mistake yet another time around.
I will say that if at any point, any further nonsense occurs I won't hesitate to reopen this.