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WHO: Sai-moonmist, tooth., dayy.

WHERE: http://www.furaffinity.net/user/tooth./

WHAT: Fursuit parts, art, refund

WHEN: about 5 months ago [it is now feb 2014] I commissioned this artist to help them start up a fursuit making buisness. They were super friendly and helpfull to start with, but soon changed.
We bought fur from Sugar Factory on FA, and waited a month for it, never saw it. Then come to find out that the fur was never shipped and SF was in the ER.
SO, I asked tooth for my money back, and was willing to give LOTS of time since she was out the $70 i gave her from never getting the fur or money back from SF.
After a while, I see tooth is getting art from other people and begging for money. So I ontacted them several times to ask for my money back.
The following images shows my warning to report them, as well as conversations between us on the matter.

http://oi62.tinypic.com/s4c9r9.jpg This is where they said they would refund me.
http://oi59.tinypic.com/fux7xl.jpg Here they are blaming SF for their lack of money, which i understood at first, but soon learned they just enjoy blaming others.

http://oi57.tinypic.com/pt0kn.jpg Warning to Tooth that I am posting this AB
http://oi60.tinypic.com/2le5cgk.jpg both of these are examples of ALL their journals asking and begging for commissions
http://oi58.tinypic.com/2s67p1w.jpg at one point, Tooth posted a journal asking for someone to make them pants, and that they would pay for them [aka-commission pants from someone] So I confronted them about it.
http://oi60.tinypic.com/2jdfkzs.jpg here they said they had a spare $15 and used it to commission someone before paying not only me, but many people back. No, that $15 is not yours, its ours, and you used it~

As of Feb 25 2014 I still have not gotten my money back.

EXPLAIN: I think I covered it all above. The person begs for money and never refunds. If they can not take care of a fursuit making commission, they should not offer them in the first place. Fursuiting takes a lot of time, money, and effort, and Tooth doesnt seem to care about others unless it is quick, cheap digital art.

[edit while im typing]
they replied to me with the following
and a journal post as well

[edit March 10th 2014]
She tried commissioning a fellow artist, and when told she should be refunding people instead of buying art, here was her reply
I went to her page in rage, and tried to post a reply.
She is not, and never has been on my block list, in hopes she would turn herself around.
in short, she still is lying....

[edit march 18th 2014]
Tooth asked for my paypal twice, and when i went to reply, they had me on my block list again

[edit march 19th 2014]
she removed me to message me again, but tried to pity party with the whole "emergency dog fund" thing

[edit march 24th 2014]
she gave me $20 back, still owes me a lot more, but she keeps saying "im taking it out of my dogs funds, so be happy"

[edit march 30th 2014]
i got another $20 from her, but when looking thru her journals, i hear shes going to be homless, and then a few hours later, after people had given her money, she posted this.
still seems very shady, but i could be wrong.
Either way, shes spending money people give her without refunding others.

[EDIT JUNE 13 2014]
Tooth has finally paid me back in full, and no longer has me blocked from what I can tell. She is no longer using curse terms in her messages, and does not go out of her way to contact me or speak rude of me.
I am STILL getting messages from others asking if Tooth is still a problem, as they too need to be refunded, and I shall link them to this post.
I, Aspen, have been refunded and have no more dealings with Tooth.
The rest of you can take this situation as you will.
I wash my hands of this affair.
My side has been resolved.
Artist's beware has moved!
Do NOT repost your old bewares. They are being archived.


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Mar. 4th, 2014 08:46 pm (UTC)
Wow, her responses at the bottom. I have no words for how absolutely disturbing that is. She clearly has very terrible etiquette when dealing with people.
Mar. 4th, 2014 09:00 pm (UTC)
Wow and all those comments from that same journal as well shows how irresponsible she is.

Mar. 5th, 2014 04:00 pm (UTC)
"Rudeness will be blocked IMMEDIATELY."

One line later.

"fuck you.

Fuck your attitude

Fuck your rude ass comments.



It's people like YOU who make people like me HATE THEMSELVES.



Wow. Just wow.
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Mar. 4th, 2014 09:05 pm (UTC)

that journal there where she's asking for money for her dog in emergency commissions... that's the user ominous_pants was talking about in their AB post some posts ago?

looking at her history, oh boy... that's someone i definitely don't want to deal with.

Edited at 2014-03-04 09:06 pm (UTC)
Mar. 4th, 2014 10:03 pm (UTC)
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Mar. 4th, 2014 09:13 pm (UTC)
I've noticed that Tooth is constantly buying designs from people I happen to watch. So really she should be able to pay you back and just seems to be avoiding doing so..? I just looked at her journals and the amount asking for money is just.. urgh.
Just recently she:

Paid for a custom monkey design from Mitarashi - http://www.furaffinity.net/view/12829748/ ($20)
An adopt from Diehansen - http://www.furaffinity.net/view/12794598/ ($15)
Paid for a custom zookeeper from Sundances - http://www.furaffinity.net/view/12857135/ ($25)
Paid for a custom dinodog from Uriko44 - http://www.furaffinity.net/view/12874396/ ($15)

That there shows she had/has enough to refund you.

Edited at 2014-03-04 09:14 pm (UTC)
Mar. 5th, 2014 02:56 am (UTC)
She even made one bid two days ago....wow.
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Mar. 4th, 2014 09:16 pm (UTC)
Mother of Cupcake batter those links at the bottom, and that journal. Goodness D:
Mar. 4th, 2014 09:18 pm (UTC)
Their behavior towards you is just icky, but after looking trough few of their journals and over all behavior i'm amazed that people still keep on cheering them to go on and give them money!
Also their latest journal made it sound like they are just about to make a run for it with all they have "gathered" up ._.
Mar. 4th, 2014 09:57 pm (UTC)
Christ the last links at the bottom are more than enough to fully warrant the beware and then some.

And I wish everyone in that journal was linked to this to see what she was talking about there and to see you've been totally polite, professional, and courteous from start to finish in a situation where she has basically stolen and spent your money.

Edited at 2014-03-04 09:58 pm (UTC)
Mar. 4th, 2014 09:58 pm (UTC)
Welp they are going right on Mocha's black list of people to never work with
I am Appalled! If I EVER said something like that, I am sure my small gathering of watchers would run for the hills! I Don't know how people support it?
Mar. 4th, 2014 10:46 pm (UTC)
They hope they can be BFFs with the person and get free shit.
Behavior like that is just appalling.
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Mar. 4th, 2014 10:06 pm (UTC)
after seeing that rude shout the other day i'm pretty glad this went through. sorry you've had such a bad experience. :/
Mar. 4th, 2014 10:14 pm (UTC)
I just declined selling her some designs yesterday because of this sort of behavior. I'm sorry this happened to you.
Mar. 4th, 2014 10:44 pm (UTC)
Uggh, what a nasty, awful, entitled attitude. Sounds like she's really immature. Hopefully she gets a wake-up call and grows the heck up.
Mar. 4th, 2014 10:55 pm (UTC)
wow Completely appalling behaviour on her part.
Mar. 4th, 2014 11:45 pm (UTC)
I love her most recent journal.
Mar. 5th, 2014 12:03 am (UTC)
So many buttpats in that journal. I've already blocked her based on other posts I've seen about her but I'll never understand how people can just so blindly take one person's word for something when they don't know the entire situation.
Mar. 5th, 2014 07:38 am (UTC)
I know. I see these "so and so is a big meanie face! *no explanation*" and everyone rallying around, buttpatting and being all "oh you poor baby! people are big meanies!" ... and I facedesk every time.
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