Posting a beware on Flarveon/Poppy Pandacoon/Ash Akita regarding a fursuit trade that we agreed on on Facebook.
Around a year ago, he posted an ad for his Akemi shadowsani partial, at the time I had an ill fitting fullsuit that needed a little work. It didn't fit me anyways so I offered the suit + $200 to match what he wanted to sell the partial, which he was selling for around $700. The fullsuit was only worth $500 because it would need repairs, like the zipper and ears were falling apart slightly and the spots were glued on. He accepted my offer.
That week or so, I sent off my fullsuit. He received it. However, to this day I've gotten nothing back, the partial or my full suit. Which I can't get back anyways because from what people told me he sold it. I tried posting to his wall and messaging him privately but that has gone ignored. I haven't sent the $200, but with having my fullsuit sold without the trade being completed I'm hesitant to do so.
He also claims that he doesn't have money to send my suit, however looking back I am having a hard time believing this as he recently bought a new fursuit head. When I asked when my partial was to be sent, he would tell me "the next paycheck" time and time again, until suddenly each message and wall post mentioning the suit would be ignored.
Because of he used to be one of my closest friends I am deeply hurt and feel betrayed by this. Especially with selling the suit I gave him without the trade being completed. The fact that there is nothing I can do about it but post here upsets me greatly, but there's nothing I can do but post here as a beware to others who decide to do business with him. After having to go through this, I know I won't be doing it again.
EDIT: a friend of mine linked me to the furbuy page http://www.furbuy.com/auctions/1043132.html?
Around a year ago, he posted an ad for his Akemi shadowsani partial, at the time I had an ill fitting fullsuit that needed a little work. It didn't fit me anyways so I offered the suit + $200 to match what he wanted to sell the partial, which he was selling for around $700. The fullsuit was only worth $500 because it would need repairs, like the zipper and ears were falling apart slightly and the spots were glued on. He accepted my offer.
That week or so, I sent off my fullsuit. He received it. However, to this day I've gotten nothing back, the partial or my full suit. Which I can't get back anyways because from what people told me he sold it. I tried posting to his wall and messaging him privately but that has gone ignored. I haven't sent the $200, but with having my fullsuit sold without the trade being completed I'm hesitant to do so.
He also claims that he doesn't have money to send my suit, however looking back I am having a hard time believing this as he recently bought a new fursuit head. When I asked when my partial was to be sent, he would tell me "the next paycheck" time and time again, until suddenly each message and wall post mentioning the suit would be ignored.
Because of he used to be one of my closest friends I am deeply hurt and feel betrayed by this. Especially with selling the suit I gave him without the trade being completed. The fact that there is nothing I can do about it but post here upsets me greatly, but there's nothing I can do but post here as a beware to others who decide to do business with him. After having to go through this, I know I won't be doing it again.
EDIT: a friend of mine linked me to the furbuy page http://www.furbuy.com/auctions/1043132.html?
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Anyone who takes her word for anything really needs to check out her behavior beforehand, she's very untrustworthy and this is habit for her at this point. I can't even imagine how many AB posts people HAVENT posted because of fear of reprisal from her legion of 'fans'(Myself included).
Kind of dirtbaggy, but what goes around comes around.
edit; Corrected pronouns.
Edited at 2014-02-21 10:29 pm (UTC)
Edited at 2014-02-22 07:19 am (UTC)
I honestly think that you need to take legal action against Flarveon, this isn't really about the Bhroady suit any more since he has exchanged hands several times. I had nothing to do with Flarveon regarding the sale; I exchanged money with arcticsilverfox's cousin (I don't know if she has an FA) and to me, that's just a normal sale.
Since Flarveon owes you (not the cousin or myself), you need to do more than just threaten legal action, it just needs to happen.
The way I see it, I paid $500+ for a suit from someone that was not Flarveon and I would really prefer to keep him. We can try to work something out or try to get in contact with Flarveon, I just emailed the person I bought the suit from to see if I can get any contact details.
I'm willing to stay in touch with you and try to work something out; I'd really prefer to keep the fursuit and I don't really have much in the way of disposable funds (saving up for FWA and an apartment), but like I said, I can stay in touch.
I just honestly don't think I really have anything to do with this situation other than being the suit's new owner. Arcticsilverfox is the one that initially exchanged money for the suit with Flarveon.
Being in possession of the suit, especially now you know it is stolen goods, means you can't just walk away from the situation.
Being in possession of stolen goods can get you into trouble yourself('recieving' of the stolen goods is the crime); and, actually, not knowing the goods were stolen when you bought them is only partially a defense, it might not get you off the hook completely. Now that you know the goods are stolen keeping possession of the suit isn't an option for you from a legal standpoint. And it actually could get you into real hot water.
You can try to get your $500 back from the seller who sold it to you, but they are likely to end up in the same boat- trying to get what they paid back from whom they bought it from. Basically each buyer would have to go one step back until it reached back to Flaveon. Once the original buyer is compensated, then everyone down the chain of possession can try for compensation.
However if the original buyer from Flaveon should have had any doubt at all about buying from the seller, base in this case Flaveon's past could be an issue, or if the price was unusually low, then they might not be able to get any award. That means everyone down the line is pretty well out of luck as well.
It's great you want to keep in touch and try and work things out person to person, but that's not what you are obligated to do.
(edit: missed a "not")
Edited at 2014-02-22 11:02 pm (UTC)
Please keep us informed of the legal status of the issue, and if you have legal evidence proving that the item(s) sold were indeed stolen, we will be happy to take action against the user. In the future, you might wish to consider using an auctioneering or consignment system like FurBuy which offers you protection and recourse against bad sales like this. Our staff is here to assist people in making good business transactions and following-through in a timely manner with incidents and issues in order to come to a positive outcome.
The email I got back from FB
Making a trip to the police to file report and see what can be done
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8E_AYixIbzk
http://www.furaffinity.net/view/14074905/