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Beware: Lil-Maj

WHO: Lil-Maj

WHERE: FurAffinity

WHAT: They won two of my YCHs and did not pay for them nor answered any of my notes.

WHEN: November 7th 2013

PROOF: YCH one and YCH two (the links are nsfw) Screencapped the bids just in case they are hidden http://i.imgur.com/C4gYXXr.png . Proof of the notes I sent are Here and Here and you can see they didn't even bother to look at the next one.

EXPLAIN: I held those two YCHs and they won both of them, in my rules I state you have to pay within 24 hours of winning but they did not pay for either of them and I gave them to the runner up winner. Someone told me they were sick at the time and probably wasn't feeling well enough to check their messages so I was a bit sympathetic until I found them bidding on other people's YCHs, I have no idea if they won those and if they paid for them but that's not my business.

It just irked me that if they had the time to bid on other auctions then they had the time to reply and or pay me. Many months back they actually did pay for the YCHs they won from me but now since they did this twice and they never did answer me back and now I don't feel comfortable allowing them to bid on any more of my auctions from now on.

EDIT 12/07/13 :

So I logged into my account today and I got a PM, I opened it and well, read for yourselves
http://i.imgur.com/52oCTpP.png

the name has been censored but it was just an account made to harass me but I still blocked out the name anyway. Just more proof that I wouldn't want to deal with this person ever again.

EDIT 12/09/13 :

Maj created a new account to send me this pm

http://i.imgur.com/Xfw4Xtc.png

In the beginning I felt happy that they were standing up and doing the adult thing to apologize, I did get a little irked by them saying that I "lost" a donator but I said that I was going to edit this AB post to say that things were settled. However I logged into FA before coming here and by reading this new comment which is some of the same things said in the note but this time with more added comment trying to guilt trip me and make me feel like I did something wrong I will not edit this post. It still stands that I will never work with them again and would like to show people that this is the attitude you get that if you do work with them and the problems you may encounter if there is a problem.

EDIT 12/13/13 :

Hopefully this will be my final edit because I feel that by now everything else that is being said are just attempts to try and find something to pick on me about just because I made this post.

Back in July 22 I held a YCH with an AB of $50. Maj bid the $50 and won it. I also held another one for an AB of $90 and Maj also AB'd and won that one. Both paid for the same day http://i.imgur.com/Vq6Mo3k.png | http://i.imgur.com/PaxyEza.png (extra screencap). The one for $90 was finished as seen here http://i.imgur.com/NZmDi6t.png (nsfw) http://i.imgur.com/H059fsk.png (proof of file date). But as seen on the pms below, I never did the one for $50 because Maj told me to give them some time to think about which character they wanted me to draw for it.

http://i.imgur.com/033zOAf.png
http://i.imgur.com/Zyt7kwG.png

Of course that was no problem so I waited, but on the 2nd PM (the one for the $90 YCH) I reminded them to tell me what they wanted me to draw, they answered to give them some time. 5 months passed by with no word still on what they wanted so the issue was brought up now that I never gave them a finished piece. Which no I didn't because they never told me what they wanted me to draw, and that I blocked them. But that is a non issue because I gave them back that $50 today http://i.imgur.com/xE84lCy.png | http://i.imgur.com/i9nnACd.png (extra screencap).

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dizdzi
Dec. 5th, 2013 01:44 pm (UTC)
You might want to consider adding a rule that if the winner does not pay within ___ time period, their bid no longer counts and the previous high bidder gets the auction instead.


So in this case, I'd give them a final warning to pay, and if they don't go ahead and contact the previous highest bidder to see if they are still interested in the auction.
princessharumi
Dec. 5th, 2013 06:42 pm (UTC)
Yeah I haven't put it in the rules yet but I will, I actually do do that and give the YCH to the runner up if things like this happen, and I actually did give it to the runner up which you can see in the 2nd PM I sent when I warned them.

But they've ignored every PM I've sent them without any reply or explanation even though they've been active on FA and that's what made me come here and make a Beware.
nightlinez
Dec. 5th, 2013 03:07 pm (UTC)
I agree with Dizdzi. You could never go wrong with the "If the winner does not pay within _____ the 2nd highest bidder wins". Sadly, this can happen a lot even if the person is "sick" . Just stay strict with the rules. If they win I should sent out a notice stating they won, then give them a final warning with a set deadline.

I would highly recommend using invoices because you can actually set deadlines/send reminders.
princessharumi
Dec. 5th, 2013 06:46 pm (UTC)
Yeah I agree with you guys, like I told Dizdzi, I do give YCHs to the runner ups if the winner doesn't pay, I just haven't put it in the rules yet but I will in future YCHs.

The only thing that made me mad about this is that I did send them a PM when they won and where to send payment, and when they didn't reply I sent them another PM after the 24hrs were up and they didn't even bother to open it. Yet when I look at their account they are very active and just posted a ton of art they had done. So that's why I posted a Beware.
ryunwoofie
Dec. 7th, 2013 07:37 pm (UTC)
Maj tends to disappear from FA a LOT of the time and for a few days/week at a time. But clearly they are active on the site. This is a bit abnormal for they are always a swift paying customer and always a pleasure to work with personally. Sorry you had to experience this.
princessharumi
Dec. 7th, 2013 07:49 pm (UTC)
Yeah I've worked with them twice in the past before and they were super quick to reply, so I was happy to see them come back again and bid on these YCHs because I felt like I wouldn't have any problems.

And of course I would have understood if they had a problem or something, I mean just talk to me and work something out. But they've ignored nearly everything I sent them so I didn't take too well to that and just blocked them and came here.
xXVibrantSnowXx
Dec. 8th, 2013 06:25 am (UTC)
I'm surprised to actually read about this, And i'm sorry to see this has gone too far, but i actually don't see your point for posting him in the artists beware in the first place, he have like commissioned hundred of peoples and hundred of notes he receives, also he was away for awhile and has some diseasses he needs to treat him self by so at least that need to be understandable, in the other hand, i also take control for his account and i never read or reply anything without his permission, he only come back to his account for awhile and usually don't have time to check notes, you could as well at least send a shout to his page telling him to read your note

I'm not defending, just clarifying and you don't have to believe anyhow, And no he doesn't ignore, so your misjudging the person

and what you did as well is very wrong of you

Edited at 2013-12-08 06:25 am (UTC)
princessharumi
Dec. 8th, 2013 06:37 am (UTC)
Please don't give me any of that. Whether it was them or ANY other commissioner I would have done the same thing. There is NO excuse, they bid on two of my auctions and did not pay for them.

If they literally have hundreds of pms or things that they have been bidding on that they may have forgotten about then why bid in the first place? Artists and commissioners have to follow a certain etiquette. Artists get paid for their work and they have to deliver, the same as a buyer has to hold up their end and pay for things they have won.

And as you can see they did read the first PM I sent them but I did not receive payment, I gave them more time and sent another PM and it was not read yet they were bidding on other auctions, again, if they had the time to do that then they could have paid. Sorry but you're not going to put the blame on me for being honest.
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teekchan
Dec. 8th, 2013 08:23 am (UTC)
I know who that alt is, and I can say with 100% certainty it is NOT Maj. I was harassed by them as well.

I can let Credits know in private if it is allowed.
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kayla_la
Dec. 8th, 2013 08:27 am (UTC)
Wow, that note.
princessharumi
Dec. 8th, 2013 08:46 am (UTC)
Honestly the grammar in it is worse than the content, I couldn't even finish reading it because of that haha
celestinaketzia
Dec. 8th, 2013 11:48 am (UTC)
I'd avoid the client due to people like that coming out of the woodwork to defend them. Friends, you do your friend no favors by blowing up on a person due to their business transaction. It's up to the client to know themselves and inform others when they won't be able to follow through. It's how business works.
princessharumi
Dec. 8th, 2013 08:19 pm (UTC)
Finally a sensible and intelligent person.

Edited at 2013-12-08 08:20 pm (UTC)
Jay M
Dec. 9th, 2013 12:30 pm (UTC)
This is lil-maj and I want to apology to you on how my rl friend acted towards you as I didn't knew that he did such a thing until someone linked me to this site, so I'm sorry if he hurt you in a way. And he caused me a lot of problems than what I needed, and I don't appreciate his childish act at all.

But I guess the problem now is that you are saying that I've ignored your notes or didn't even replied, well I want to let you know that I have a huge pile of notes that I still didn't read and also most of them I forgot to reply back to so that means I didn't ignored you at all but I got distracted irl so I just had to react to what was distracting me irl and then when I get back to my laptop, I forget completely to reply again to the notes that I've opened.

You should have at least left a shout on my page instead of just blocking me for feeling upset that I've "ignored you" or you should have at least asked me for another way to contact me. So please don't say you've contacted me many times because I didn't got a thing from you but the note you said it wasn't opened by me which I just opened it after seeing this post.

Also you said it yourself, you didn't put any rule on those auctions stating that the second highest bidder will get the auction if the highest bidder didn't replied.

But this is the first time that this happened to me with you and it didn't happened like a 100th time, if it did happened I'll agree with you on posting a AB about me or anyone else bidding and then not paying but posting an AB about me "IGNORING" you which isn't true is not acceptable at all because you should have at least left me a note or a shout on my page stating your feelings about me "ignoring" you!

You should have instead, at least, of letting this “ignoring" go since someone else won the auction and a month have passed by when I didn’t replied, but no you were hurt so badly just because I 'ignored' you so you had to post this, which an immature act on your behalf.

So I’m just saying this, as a normal human being I do forget to reply and a friendly reminder would have been great. I will not apologise for this because the lack of communication between us led us to this.

Lastly, I don’t want anyone else replying to me because I'll ignore all replies unless it's the artist who posted this.

PS. I only got one YCH from you not more! And also you just lost someone who could donate to you without even asking for something in return! So have a great day/night.
alysiaangee
Dec. 9th, 2013 05:30 pm (UTC)
When all else fails... blame the artist..?
princessharumi
Dec. 9th, 2013 07:21 pm (UTC)
apparently
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kayla_la
Dec. 9th, 2013 05:39 pm (UTC)
The attitude the client displayed here (trying to make everything your fault, trying to guilt trip you, etc)is definitely more than enough to make sure I'll be avoiding them. Thank you for the beware.
princessharumi
Dec. 9th, 2013 11:03 pm (UTC)
Thank you for saying that, I did also add an edit to add a pm they sent me on FA which is more of the same but I saw the pm before I saw this comment here, just makes me shake my head more.
celestinaketzia
Dec. 9th, 2013 08:11 pm (UTC)
Wow, what an attitude. It's not the artist's job to manage their clients' business. If you're going to be bidding on auctions, then you'd better darn well make sure you keep up with them. Thank you for the beware, Bunnystrut, because that attitude is atrocious.
princessharumi
Dec. 9th, 2013 11:05 pm (UTC)
Pretty much, it's not my fault if a person has hundreds of notes and are bidding on a lot of other auctions. Plus I already sent 2 pms anyway it's not my job to chase him down for payment or anyone for that matter. You are welcome and thank you for the comment.
M Jay
Dec. 13th, 2013 08:27 pm (UTC)
This is Lil-Maj and I'd like to get a refund from the artist because I have won this (NSFW) https://www.dropbox.com/s/2911m87fk9y1d3s/photo.PNG and she took it down from her gallery.

Here are the proofs: http://i42.tinypic.com/dz8mv.png & http://i39.tinypic.com/2mnp5sp.png & http://i40.tinypic.com/2wqhjl3.png & http://i41.tinypic.com/ejwvo6.png

She has blocked me so I can no longer give her my info so I want a full refund.

So she owes me money and I want it back as I don't want the YCH anymore.
kayla_la
Dec. 13th, 2013 09:57 pm (UTC)
Did they never finish the art for this YCH you paid for in July?
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