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Commissioner Beware: SonicDash

WHO: SonicDash on Tumblr: http://sonicdash.tumblr.com/
http://www.furaffinity.net/user/zekrom0695 - I was told by another artist that was also charged back that this was his FA name.

WHERE: My tumblr, Bluntwhiskey.tumblr.com (NSFW), and e-mail

WHAT: A digital sketch of his character.

WHEN: September 5 – 7, 2013

PROOF: (Links Below are Screenshots and Paypal Transactions)

EXPLAIN: SonicDash poked me on tumblr, asking about a commission after he saw I was opened for such last week. After a lot of back and forth, we’ve come to an agreement, and I had him pay an invoice I sent to him over paypal. I finish his commission a couple of days later, and that was the last I heard from him through e-mails. Today, I noticed that there was a chargeback notice on my paypal account. So I asked him about it, and apparently, his parents forced him to file chargebacks against myself, and another artist, CitrusVision, and probably others.


Product in Question: http://img593.imageshack.us/img593/7550/0oz4.jpg

Proof Links:
http://imageshack.us/a/img821/1492/xfdq.png
http://imageshack.us/a/img59/7479/2ewf.png
http://imageshack.us/a/img542/1802/fhq3.png
http://imageshack.us/a/img594/39/905p.png
http://imageshack.us/a/img268/1738/u3l5.png
http://imageshack.us/a/img31/8664/68y.png
http://imageshack.us/a/img593/3007/6jm1.png
http://imageshack.us/a/img62/9278/bzo1.png
http://imageshack.us/a/img21/4259/vw0q.png
http://imageshack.us/a/img94/6551/r16l.png
http://imageshack.us/a/img818/6715/c3ql.png
http://imageshack.us/a/img850/8563/cqw7.png
http://imageshack.us/a/img32/6885/velq.png - Paypal Transaction
http://imageshack.us/a/img20/5748/71re.png - Tumblr

UPDATE
He's returned my money. I consider this unfortunate incident resolved for me.
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Comments

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neolucky
Sep. 11th, 2013 10:52 pm (UTC)
Heya, I Approved this - would you mind editing all those smaller email caps into 1-2 images? They're all important, but it'd be easier to read through them on a single image, thank you!
kayla_na
Sep. 12th, 2013 12:24 am (UTC)
I tried to, but the way he e-mailed me, he used like a brand new e-mail letter instead of just nesting it neatly like gmail does. I'll see if I can get them into smaller quantities.
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eveshka
Sep. 11th, 2013 11:07 pm (UTC)
One thing they can do is go to a grocery store and buy a prepaid Visa/Amex with cash and mail that to you. I have an underage customer who commissions beaded jewelry from me, and because she is underage, she can't open a Paypal account.
I run a tab for her, and she mails me prepaid cards with the amount loaded onto them. I pop her jewelry in the FedEx, and we're both happy.
kayla_na
Sep. 12th, 2013 12:41 am (UTC)
hm, interesting. I never thought of that route. The only thing that threw me off with this guy is that he's apparently 30 years old, which kind made me double take about the parent thing...I would figure he would have a bank account in his name instead of it rerouting to his parents like he said?

Also, apparently to some people on tumblr, he's done this sort of thing before.

Edited at 2013-09-12 12:42 am (UTC)
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intervivos_2
Sep. 11th, 2013 11:39 pm (UTC)
It happened to me too. I'm not sure he's a scammer, because he's commissioned me before and paid for it, and that never got a chargeback (I hope it doesn't come back somehow), I think he might actually just be having some problem. It's still pretty annoying either way.
mistresswolf
Sep. 12th, 2013 12:59 am (UTC)
"It takes a while to set up a bank account."

... What? It took me like, 10 to 20 minutes.
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kayla_na
Sep. 12th, 2013 04:57 am (UTC)
Would it be out of line to ask him for an update on when he's going to return the funds that were taken out of my account every week? I don't mean to sound paranoid, it's just that I get extremely anxious when it comes to chargeback issues with paypal.
neolucky
Sep. 12th, 2013 08:10 am (UTC)
Personally, I'd think that's absolutely reasonable.
ansitru
Sep. 12th, 2013 04:47 pm (UTC)
I find it all very ... over-the-top sounding, with the excuse they gave you why the charge-back was filed.

"They (parents) threatened to take me to jail [...]"

From the Tumblr-screenshot. Am I the only one who found that bit to be incredibly difficult to believe?
citrus_vision
Sep. 12th, 2013 04:59 pm (UTC)
I don't find it difficult to believe. He's apparently a notorious liar. I actually had to block him on skype for harassing me for like 3 days straight. I've also had a friend warn me about how he harasses other artists (sometimes to a point where they up and delete their tumblr) for fetish art and gets upset when they decline. He also told me that people have confronted him about his harassment and he blames it on his (twin) brother he apparently has.
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citrus_vision
Sep. 12th, 2013 05:15 pm (UTC)
Yes, I also got duped out of my money as well. He says he's going to be paying all the artists he commissioned for back. I really find that hard to believe, but we will see.
oby
Sep. 12th, 2013 05:21 pm (UTC)
If I'm not mistaken, isn't his filing a chargeback essentially telling Paypal that you committed fraud? Just like it would be if he filed for a dispute/chargeback with a brick-and-mortar bank or credit card?

If that is the case, I would throw this kid (and his "parents") under the bus for filing false claims. It's one thing for him to owe you, but it's quite another thing to pay then claim it was fraudulent in order to get one's money back.
evan_balot
Sep. 12th, 2013 07:53 pm (UTC)
OP if you haven't done it already, I'd file a ticket over FA. I don't know about getting the money back, but if he gets suspended from FA then he won't be able to scam artists from there anymore. From what I've seen before on here, chargeback complaints are taken very seriously.
kayla_na
Sep. 12th, 2013 09:00 pm (UTC)
I'm permabanned on FA, so I couldn't file a ticket over there even if I wanted to. x.x
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evan_balot
Sep. 12th, 2013 09:18 pm (UTC)
I don't think it would hurt to ask.

*edit* Gaah. Meant to reply to Mel's last comment. x.x

Edited at 2013-09-12 09:19 pm (UTC)
evan_balot
Sep. 12th, 2013 10:19 pm (UTC)
I didn't think I'd need to use this particular reaction image today but... LOOK AT ALL THE LIKES!

I am appalled at this.
mekania
Sep. 12th, 2013 11:39 pm (UTC)
Soooo his claim is:

-He had his own money
-But used his parents paypal (in secret which is an excellent idea)
-Parents found out
-Threatened jail time so he filed a dispute
-Can't pay you back right now because he doesn't have a job. Where did the original money come from then?


Is there any way at all you can get on the phone with paypal and fight this? It is not your fault that the parents (if that's true is the name on the account different from his?) gave their son access to an account that they didn't want to be used.
citrus_vision
Sep. 13th, 2013 12:12 am (UTC)
http://samrosemodblog.tumblr.com/post/61040320749/finished-commission-for-sonicdash-55

This was just posted on his tumblr today. I contacted the artist about the issues we have had with him lately and they said they had been paid in full already. I'm really hoping they don't get a payment reversal too. :/
vellacraptor
Sep. 13th, 2013 02:43 pm (UTC)
If that is recent, you may be able to try and call paypal and notify them that he is indeed using the paypal ToS to scam people. If what he is saying is true abut having no money/paypal to pay people back, yet at the same time commissioning more art, it's clear he's a scammer 100% at least to me. :/

Actions speak louder than words--at least it'd be worth asking PP.
corghi
Sep. 13th, 2013 07:34 am (UTC)
Honestly, this sounds like one big fat scam. I think he's doing this on purpose. If he has no job, has no source of income, how can he afford $30-60+ on multiple pieces of MLP art? He denies stealing money from his parents, but by using his parents PP, he obviously must be?

It looks like he waits until the art is complete, then files a charge-back, and getting free art out of it. I'm pretty sad people would go out of their way to scam people online for artwork..

I'm sorry you got scammed. I'm going to be skeptical and say you won't be seeing that money..
evan_balot
Sep. 13th, 2013 08:25 am (UTC)
Yep. That right there is exactly what it looks like!
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