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Beware; Furbuy

Who - https://www.furaffinity.net/user/furbuy/ & http://www.furbuy.com/
Where - Via FA notes (Caps below)

I was recently contacted buy the FurAffinity account for Furbuy about hosting my auction on their website. The note was a typical copy/paste spam style note asking why I did not use their website, and asking how they could improve if it if I had issues.

Cap - http://i.imgur.com/PqwWd2T.png

I replied back, saying no one uses the website, (I've asked multiple artists and commissions who refuse to use it, plus every time I check the site, it's nearly empty) I also informed them that the times I used it back in the day, I was never paid, and outright scammed.

Cap - http://i.imgur.com/rIk5i26.png

I was then sent a snarky reply, accused of lying, and what I think may be a threat? I am unsure. They tell me my business will fail. I do have an account, and I did in fact leave negative feedback for the buyers that refused to pay, and the time I was scammed it was after the artwork was completed. I was threatened in to a refund. I did not know about A_B at the time.

Cap - http://i.imgur.com/Q3kjDXK.png (The bottom section circled in red)

I sent a final reply telling them to cease contact, that their behavior would not get me to use their sirte, and that spam like ads via notes were against FA rules.

Cap - http://i.imgur.com/YAclxde.png
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Aug. 31st, 2013 10:51 pm (UTC)
If the person behind that account is who I think it is then this type of behavior is no surprise :\
I stopped using the site a while ago because the owner asked for some feedback on the advertising options on the site, I offered some and I guess he didn't like it because the next thing I know he was telling me my auctions could not be run because they were not 'furry' related (granted chainmaille might not be furry related but before I had run plenty of chainmaille auctions on the site before I offered feedback.)

Also wasn't there some hullabaloo over him keeping sellers/buyers information even after they requested/demanded it deleted. I mean my account is still there even though I asked for it to be deleted (and I can't log onto it).
Aug. 31st, 2013 11:27 pm (UTC)
Yes, they just suspend/ban the account, but don't delete it. I just remembered I needed to "update" my information and well Lets just say Not your Business is my name and We Are Not amused is my Address :3.
(no subject) - ichi_black - Sep. 1st, 2013 09:48 am (UTC) - Expand
Aug. 31st, 2013 10:56 pm (UTC)
Have you opened a trouble ticket on FA?
Aug. 31st, 2013 11:50 pm (UTC)
I havent bothered, I didn't think they'd do anything as my stalking/harassment tickets went unanswered for like 6+ months.
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Aug. 31st, 2013 10:59 pm (UTC)
Jurann, he has a post to his name already: http://artists-beware.livejournal.com/tag/artist-jurann
Pretty sure there were more, or at least I've heard plenty of complaints about his behavior. Demanding people use his site, admonishing people for not doing so if their FA auctions go awry. Generally wishing artists ill if they don't use his site.

I volunteered on his MUCK when he started one years ago, I'd build stuff and stick around to greet people who logged in. All he did was log in once in a blue moon and complain I timed out in public places, which happened because no-one was logging in, he did nothing to promote the MUCK.

He wants everyone to come to him for various things, complains when they don't and blames other people for his lack of popularity and success. Not sure if he doesn't realize or just denies the fact his behavior is what scares people off, but he's been like this for years and years.
Sep. 1st, 2013 02:06 am (UTC)
His behavior on that old post is really... something. He could have kept quiet and the OP might well have come off looking totally unreasonable, but his comments make it awfully clear which of them I'd rather have to do business with! And it's not Jurann!
(no subject) - thaily - Sep. 1st, 2013 09:28 am (UTC) - Expand
Aug. 31st, 2013 11:10 pm (UTC)
Haha yeah I got one of those notes a week ago and it's word-for-word. I just ended up deleting the note because of, well, exactly this happening.

Isn't sending out spam-like notes like this against FA's TOS?
Aug. 31st, 2013 11:20 pm (UTC)
Did you report him?

I'm pretty sure spam notes are against FA's rules.
Aug. 31st, 2013 11:22 pm (UTC)
Yick, that's not really professional in the least.
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Sep. 1st, 2013 03:48 am (UTC)
Alas, this kind of thing is not new.

Aside from the inadvisability of insulting people who give you their honest opinion, even if it is negative, this particular method seems like a bad idea because it should be very easy for an admin of any furry site to review a user's sent messages or comments and see a pattern.
Aug. 31st, 2013 11:47 pm (UTC)
wow, they've lost my business
Sep. 1st, 2013 12:03 am (UTC)
This isn't the first time he's done something like this. Honestly, report it. The spam is obnoxious enough, but being argumentative when you give your reply is just skeevy. If he doesn't like the answer, then why even spam people?
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Sep. 1st, 2013 02:57 am (UTC)

"some furries have to choose between buying art and basic necessities"

Nice logic Jurann.
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Sep. 1st, 2013 12:37 am (UTC)
Wow I thought Jurann was permabanned for his harassing attitude, glad I checked his name and blocked him ahead of time. Jesus I don't need that. FA has been going quite fine for me with using it for auctions.
Sep. 1st, 2013 12:45 am (UTC)
... i'm removing my auction off of shis site. It's clear Jurann hasn't learned a damn lesson, and I won't support behavior like that.
Sep. 1st, 2013 01:08 am (UTC)
yep, I got that exact same note too.
Sep. 1st, 2013 01:25 am (UTC)
Yeah, this is pretty par for the course for Jurann in terms of his, er... "PR" tactics for his website-- It's interesting that he's choosing the notes route now, when he was suspended before for going into people's auction journals/submissions and heckling them about not using his site before... If I remember right, he outright harassed a few of the higher-traffic artists this way about hosting their auctions on FA and not his site. Maybe he thinks that by using the notes to continue his weird idea of "advertising" he won't get caught again?

Either way, this is why I refuse to have anything to do with Furbuy. I don't sell there, I don't buy there, I haven't even wasted my time making an account.
Sep. 1st, 2013 01:29 am (UTC)
I've honestly gotten tired of him and ended up just plain blocking him. He gets to the point of harassment since he just won't stop. Asking once, I can get, but he's asked me multiple times, just let it go when someone says no.

I did tell him, I did try the site, got no bids, and got tons of FA. This is of course untrue to him, my personal experience doesn't matter. Any chance of using the site was blow out from his responses to people not wanting to use it.

My question is, if so many people use the site, why is it so important to him more do? Wouldn't he not need the traffic? Sounds fishy.
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