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WHO:
Dogbone, RainbowJokerHound

WHERE:
https://inkbunny.net/DogBoneArtWork
https://twitter.com/DogBoneArtWork

WHAT:
Originally a $140 Dollar YCH that I was outbid on but then asked if I still wished for a piece for that price I had bid.
http://i.imgur.com/VlB3Y7S.jpg?1

WHEN:
I ordered this on May 3rd. I Gave her free paws at first.
http://i.imgur.com/LIsbI82.png?1
http://i.imgur.com/cat1Ayt.png?1
Through the progression of this, I had to give an actual idea of my own on June 29
http://i.imgur.com/pkMWcVn.png
WIP was received on August 2
http://i.imgur.com/XzAOz3F.png
Finished Work received on August 14

PROOF:
Here is proof that I paid for my work.
http://i.imgur.com/a4xEuG5.png
http://i.imgur.com/xMhIZNT.png

EXPLAIN:
I had originally bid on a YCH Auction. I had lost, but was prompted to buy a commission still through a PM from both her and her mate. The PMs from her are above in the WHEN section and in the WHAT section. I went ahead and payed for it, unknowing to the fact that she was supposed to do a WIP first. But she accepted my money anyway, my fault, I'm aware. She said she was in the middle of a move and she was without internet so i waited. A month later though on June 3rd I figured it was okay to see how she was faring with my work.

http://i.imgur.com/1MaX6kt.png

I didn't get any responses, and I also noted I wasn't even on her que list

http://i.imgur.com/VBRbqMJ.png (also, it was 140, not 145)

I finally got a response and she had told me she hadn't even started on it yet, and needed an idea. That's in the WHAT Section of what I gave her. A little over a week of waiting, I notice again, I'm not even on que, nor have I received a WIP or anything. So I email again.

http://i.imgur.com/dNrzAVt.png
http://i.imgur.com/fvpjVhH.png
http://i.imgur.com/WSedRh8.png
http://i.imgur.com/Qbt6f9p.png
http://i.imgur.com/MMvc2GR.png
http://i.imgur.com/wZCwsEm.png
http://i.imgur.com/8Ap6q77.png

So, to cap. She 'forgot' who i was, then tried to tell me that I was 'behind other commissions' even though she said that already a month ago. Though 'more' than two artworks had been posted up between this time. I showed her a screen cap even of her saying that I would be next after those 'as she had said'. So she apologized and 'remembered' and promised to have it at least by the end of the month. Once it was the end of the month, with no WIP or anything again, I email her.

http://i.imgur.com/l5sSWyv.png
http://i.imgur.com/XzAOz3F.png

She again didn't have it done and she only had a basic sketch 'after' the month. A week later with no update i email again to see if she had progressed.

http://i.imgur.com/es9zDp4.png
http://i.imgur.com/esIXXG0.png

She just reverts me back to the previous WIP. So at this point of having to wait nearly 3 1/2 months for my piece I ask for either the finished work, or my money back.

I finally received my artwork, two days after that. And also to note that all the while i was waiting for mine. She was pushing out 'other' commissions that she claimed to be old. Even though that some of them were YCH Auction pieces that were prompted 'after' my commission.

And so with this whole ordeal in mind. I warn you all about this artist. This isn't the first time she's done this. But I wanted to show that she is 'still' up to it, and it doesn't matter if its a small or big amount, the result is still the same.
Artist's beware has moved!
Do NOT repost your old bewares. They are being archived.
https://artistsbeware.info/

Comments

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duster
Aug. 19th, 2013 07:56 am (UTC)
Lemme see if I got this right; you lost an art auction but she still asked you if you wanted a commission slot?

Am I the only one who finds that a little strange?
lackoflollies
Aug. 19th, 2013 08:04 am (UTC)
She's addicted to money. She uses the fact people are literally lining up at the door for her art to rely on people who were previously outbid, but conveniently had high bids to make more income, privately.

At least that's what i'm getting here.
epiceternity
Aug. 19th, 2013 09:12 am (UTC)
I don't think it's that strange, if you know you have someone interested and the amount their offering is acceptable then there's potential for dealing.
I've had it on Ebay, I was outbid on some items and the seller offered a second identical lot they had to me for my out-bid amount and that was fine.
It's more of an issue here when the artist has taken on too much work etc.
sekotta
Aug. 21st, 2013 02:36 am (UTC)
Yes, she said she needed money for a move and was taking commissions to help pay for it.
xubunturambles
Aug. 22nd, 2013 07:32 am (UTC)
that is so shady, i just can't even..
thistlewolf
Aug. 19th, 2013 04:21 pm (UTC)
I'm trying to figure out her response here. Did you have your references on FA? (As far as I know, she's already permabanned from the site, so I'm not sure how it relates to finishing your commission.)
mistsage
Aug. 19th, 2013 06:28 pm (UTC)
The reference pictures that were given to her, were from Furaffinity

http://i.imgur.com/pkMWcVn.png

So, even though i don't see why she didn't save the pictures, she could pull that excuse. Though, now that you mention it. Don't you have to be able to log in to see adult rated pieces?

(I'm mist btw, apart of the commission in topic and also roommate, witness to this whole ordeal)
thistlewolf
Aug. 19th, 2013 06:40 pm (UTC)
Oops, my bad. The URL for direct linking never seems to register as FA in my head.

And apparently you can skirt around filters as long as you use the direct link to the image. Though even if she didn't want to save them, she could've easily asked for an alternate link to the refs, especially since she was in direct contact with the commissioner.
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0acorn0
Aug. 20th, 2013 08:03 pm (UTC)
She can't pull that excuse about being banned when she was given direct-links unless she was IP banned and has a static IP. I get direct-links frequently for reference material and I am not on FA.
leachymonster
Sep. 17th, 2013 08:54 pm (UTC)
ok here let me explain.
you werent on my queue because i still considered what you got to be a YCH not a commission. so theres that.

you paid 140 for a "single character" anything goes auction. but you got two characters.. and the original price for you to pay was 155. i have it in my notes if i must show you.

and yes i was ip banned so i couldnt use any of the reffs you sent me.
i had explained everything to you on skype. i was going to copy paste it here but you arent in my contacts anymore and i cnt find a way to retrive the old convo.

i believe you thought you were going to get full detail.
but you got a detailed sketch, i THINK you asked me if youd pay more for it to be updated (dont quote me on this im not too sure) but i said no because that would require me to redo the whole image. and wouldnt have really been worth the added amount. plus you paid me to where there was a 5 dollar fee so i didnt get all what i asked.

in reality based on YCH rules not commission rules you got what you paid for
pricing for my YCH auctions
Price Guide:
5-80$ - colored sketch
85-150$ - flat color inked
200-300+$ - full detail


you paid 140. you got just that
i actually put more effort in it than i should.

so i didnt do anything wrong really.
oceandezignz
Sep. 17th, 2013 09:33 pm (UTC)
Hold up! This part struck me pretty strongly...
"plus you paid me to where there was a 5 dollar fee so i didnt get all what i asked."

That's on you, the artist. Not the client. If you wanna make $140 flat, you need to charge appropriately by including fees in your standard pricing (Paypal fees: $.30 transaction fee, and 2.9% of the transaction. I highball that to $0.33 per $1USD).

Although in an auction-style setting you get what you get because you shouldn't be asking clients to pay more to 'cover fees' or paying via gifting options to avoid them completely.
leachymonster
Sep. 17th, 2013 09:45 pm (UTC)
there is a fee only if the person pays with their bank,
if they use their paypal balance there is no fee. that is wht im talking about . im not trying to say that it was a big deal for me a lot of clients send me payments with fees so its what ever to me.
oceandezignz
Sep. 17th, 2013 10:32 pm (UTC)
But... you were saying it was a big deal.

Complaining that you did not get all "your money" to the OP of this post... IS treating it like a big deal.

If that isn't want you wanted to come across like, you probably need to start proof-reading before you hit the 'post comment' button.

And... regardless of how you see it. To a lot of the members here a YCH auction is still a style of commissioning someone! Its just that instead of the client coming up with the scene, etc... its pretty much prepared FOR them. So for you not to queue your YCH along with your other commissions? Its perfectly reasonable to give pause to that.

Especially if that is a majority of what you do.
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neolucky
Sep. 17th, 2013 09:36 pm (UTC)
How is a YCH not a commission? They paid you money for art, by all rights that is the definition OF A COMMISSION.

Beware super duper earned here.
leachymonster
Sep. 17th, 2013 09:42 pm (UTC)
the difference is that for the YCH there are set limmits on what a certain bid will allow
Price Guide:
5-80$ - colored sketch
85-150$ - flat color inked
200-300+$ - full detail

if the person wants full detail they will either bid the amount it would take or they can just commission me normally.

im not always open for commissions but im allways doing YCHs

YCH arent custom like a commission is.
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