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Apes

Sorry to send this twice, re-read it though and have removed personal information from the paypal screenshot.


WHO: Apes

WHERE: http://www.furaffinity.net/user/apes/ http://www.furaffinity.net/user/purrfect-customs

WHAT: A finished plushie, [ She charges around £130 - £150ish for this size. ] Which has fallen apart.
One piece of copic art which she never finished, scanned but has never given me.

WHEN: Plushie was a trade, my part of the trade, a Sewing machine was sent early this year, late last year, which is irrelevant, however the copic piece was commissioned back in January.

PROOF: She has unfortunately deleted the journal, but here is the paypal with payment.
http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a178/egotise/paymentproofffffff_zps9605b58f.png

Here’s the copic piece, unfinished:
http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a178/egotise/img009_zps47838740.jpg
Spoken to Apes and a brick wall, a shadow and another layer of shading was to be added.
Not to mention the awful proportions and how rushed the image is. Very disappointed.

Here is the unsymmetrical, broken plushie.
http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a178/egotise/IMG_6206_zps2d676da9.jpg

Poor seams unfinished and falling apart.
http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a178/egotise/IMG_6208_zps5cf3d79f.jpg

The unsymmetrical head.
http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a178/egotise/998137_160536964130243_1443685211_n_zps6d444a77.jpg
And the image supplied of the finished plushie. Note the choice of angles to hide the poor symmetry on the face.


EXPLAIN:

Copic piece
The copic piece was ordered back in January. I ordered one for myself and one for my sister. Because we were friends at the time she worked on mine for a bit, then asked if she could continue on with somebody elses piece. I said okay, it’s fine, and that’s the last the piece was mentioned. Apes has continued to take on commission after commission, leaving some people waiting as long as six months for pieces of art. Piece has been seen in her art folder [ In person. ] multiple times with no intention of finishing.

Plush

Plush was made in a space of an evening and a day, I was shown progress pictures and was satisfied, was shown final image and was also happy with the results! Come the convention and the plushie is given to me. I could see loose threads, but these were the smallest of my problems, the face was completely unsymmetrical, one eye was extremely higher than the other. As we were at a convention and not wanting to cause drama, I told her I was satisfied, which is a stupid mistake I know, but I didn’t want to upset my friend.

At the convention, one other commissioner approached Apes to complain his plushies HAIR had fallen off, Apes proceeded to chuck it under the table she was sat at and said she’d repair it. Have been told that a friend of the commissioner had to fix it for him in the end.

The plushie wasn’t touched at the con and I guarded it like a mama bear, xD. When I got home I popped him on the end of my bed with all my other favourite birdy plushies. A day or so after he rolled off, which sometimes happens. I go to pick him up and his head falls off. I’m shocked. I turn the head over to see terrible tacking stitches, and poor closure. I check the other joints and they’re the same, wobbily with more threads. I put a post up on twitter, saying how shocked I was, hoping there would be somebody on there to help, what I get is a nasty message from Apes demanding to know why it was put on twitter. I understand it was perhaps a bit rude, but at the end of the day when you pay £150+ for something you expect the quality to be there and it wasn’t.

Apes has a terrible reputation for being unprofessional and proves it here again, instead of apologising and offering to fix it she tells me somebody must have picked it up when I wasn’t looking, or manhandled it. Of course the stitching was enough to tell me that it’d just been completely rushed and made carelessly. There was no apology, no offer to fix it, just “How dare you post that on twitter.” And asking if anything had been damaged, quickly putting the blame on somebody else.

As Apes has blocked me on all mediums due to personal reasons, I can only assume I’ll never receive a finished piece of my art, or an offer to fix my plushie [ Which I’ll be sending off to a friend to fix as I have a feeling if sent to her I’ll never see it again, unfortunately there is nothing they can do about the face of it. ]I just want other people to be aware in the future.

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clockmagic
Aug. 14th, 2013 10:15 pm (UTC)
I'm curious if Apes used that free pattern someone on FA made for people who wanted to make simple plushies for themselves. I'll have to look around and find it to be sure if it's the same but if it is I don't believe it's meant to be used with the intent of profit. Again I'll have to look before being sure on what I just said.
None the less I'm sorry you've had such bad dealings with them. :/
breakspire
Aug. 14th, 2013 10:25 pm (UTC)
you mean the one that's in here?: http://www.furaffinity.net/gallery/northsound/
clockmagic
Aug. 14th, 2013 10:28 pm (UTC)
Yes that's them. And looking now no I don't think they're the same. Thank you!
norsepaw
Aug. 15th, 2013 07:45 am (UTC)
There are a couple of jointed teddy bear plushie patterns online that she could have used.
Here is one: http://www.crafttales.com/Jointed%20Bear%20pg.%201.html
epiceternity
Aug. 15th, 2013 09:03 am (UTC)
This issue was brought up over on UKfurs. When asked if Apes could show a quick photo of her pattern to prove that it wasn't Northsound's one she refused to show the whole pattern and only provide a picture of a few pattern pieces (like ears) that she had altered. That made it look even more suspect. She claimed that the pattern came from a friend who had bought it. I searched for the bear pattern name she called it but couldn't find the tiniest mention of it anywhere.

Prior to taking the plushie commissions, she commented on Twitter about how much people would pay for a non-jointed plushie, think how much they would pay for a jointed one. It was clear that she only wanted quick cash and had no interest in making a quality product so not surprised that the plush didn't hold up.
sleazehog
Aug. 15th, 2013 08:10 pm (UTC)
Yep, it's all about money making to her.

So glad I've washed my hands with her, I can only hope this AB will warn off other poor commissioners in the future.
wolf_goat
Aug. 15th, 2013 08:25 am (UTC)
As it's Apes, this is unfortunately no surprise at all.
jesslyra
Aug. 15th, 2013 11:25 am (UTC)
friend of mine commissioned 2 plushies from her back in November. she posted lot of WIPs and the finished one of his kangaroo but the calico cat... there was no WIPs, no mention, not even a preview on her streams nothing. She even started ignoring him. So he picked both of them up at ConFuzzled (May/June) and was highly disappointed. The calico cat design is white with grey, brown and yellow patches and black hair. Apes made it out of some kind of pink snake skin pattern fur... PINK! it looked NOTHING like the character. The kangaroo one was ok, but had a flat face. Will try to find a photo. I saw both of them in person and they really are quite poorly made.
He also commissioned some art from her the same time as the plushies, but she never did it so he got a refund at CF off her.
kairi_koitra
Aug. 15th, 2013 11:35 am (UTC)
This doesn't shock me at all after seeing some of her construction photos and things its no shocker that things fell apart
intj_reflection
Aug. 15th, 2013 02:43 pm (UTC)
Oh, Apes.

I wonder if the timing is coincidental or convenient that she stopped taking new commissions as of yesterday.
sleazehog
Aug. 15th, 2013 08:06 pm (UTC)
When she wants something, she opens up for commissions.

Wanted a record player. Opened up for commissions.

Wanted a parrot. Opened up for commissions.

Has she done any of them?

There was a cancer research auction in April. The poor winner has only had the bare minimum of their commission. Surprised to not see them on here.
intj_reflection
Aug. 16th, 2013 03:12 pm (UTC)
I'm only slightly acquainted with her work tendencies, so I can't really express surprise or a lack there of to hear that. I've only puttered around her page since she was dating a good friend of mine. She seems to be a fairly prolific poster at times, but I couldn't tell you how much of that work people had paid her for.
wyla
Aug. 15th, 2013 06:00 pm (UTC)
I was hanging out with the person who owns the plush whose hair fell off; I must admit I was shocked when I heard how much they paid for it. The price really did not reflect the quality of work. :/ The hair in question was a single piece of fur glued directly onto the head, no stitching or backing.
norsepaw
Aug. 15th, 2013 07:36 pm (UTC)
Wow that is lazy work.
sleazehog
Aug. 15th, 2013 08:08 pm (UTC)
I was shocked when she just lobbed it under her table and rolled her eyes. Then proceeded to bitch to me and her other friends at the time about how she thinks he rough handled it.

She even accused me of not noticing somebody rough handling mine. Even if they had, you pay £150 for a plushie, you expect it to endure a little handling.
epiceternity
Aug. 15th, 2013 08:23 pm (UTC)
Yes, plushies should be made well enough to actually be handled. When someone buys a plushie, it's pretty much expected that they're going to want to play with it and hug it etc.
I used to give my plushie commissions a good pulling about to make sure everything was secure, but then quality and studiedness was my prime concern when making them.
Plushies should be able to withstand a bit of play, otherwise what's the point of having a plushie that's going to fall apart if someone just picks it up or simply sneezes or farts near them.

Edited at 2013-08-15 08:26 pm (UTC)
sapphistscot
Aug. 15th, 2013 09:42 pm (UTC)
£150 for a plushie that can't be handled?! You can get a jointed Steiff bear for that price, and they definitely won't fall apart if they're played with.
dannyazazel
Aug. 16th, 2013 07:04 am (UTC)
Wow that is NOT okay. I could go buy a plushie from the dollar store and it'll likely take more of a beating than that. But £150? I expect much better.

She definitely sounds like the quick buck type, which is a shame because if she got her act together it's likely she could make good money and deliver amazing products!
xeshaire
Aug. 17th, 2013 11:35 pm (UTC)
Guess I'm not the only one who deals with her and problematic commissions. I'm a stranger but I can fix plushies easily as I make them myself. Usually when I notice something is off I cut along the sewn pattern and fix it inside out, I don't know how to explain but it's not impossible to fix the uneven head.

I've been waiting for a tail badge since March and only a week ago she told me she ordered the fur when I asked for a refund. Got told 3 times "it will be done end of the month" heard that all the time but nothing happened. Might as well just post up an AB about it.

Blaming YOU that it was broken when you not looked is a lame excuse, if you sew correct it doesn't tear that easily unless you play tug o war with it. I hope this can get resolved for you, calling PayPal might help to get your refund even if it was over 45 days. :/
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