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Starfinder/Kannos Update

It has been brought to our attention that Starfinder/Kannos is attempting to petition themselves back onto Furaffinity. For those new or who don't remember, feel free to browse her tag for more information on her history. She was banned from Furaffinity for not finishing commissions for years and refusing to comply with admin requests.

This is a post to touch base with past commissioners and check to see if her statements that she owes no further work and is in the clear are true. This is not a post to attack her, be it here or on her inkbunny, and we will be taking action against people from here that we find commenting on her page after this post goes up.

So again, anyone who has commissioned Starfinder/Kannos, please let us know if she still owes you work. We will be taking the information we gain from this post to Furaffinity for them to review, good or bad. Links to past AB posts you have made or proof that she does indeed owe you would be more helpful than vague comments, thank you!
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kannoswd
May. 30th, 2013 07:21 pm (UTC)
So come on. I've grown up and moved past my stupid mistakes that I made in the past and have made a HUGE improvement in my overall demeanor, business practices, professionalism, etc. It would be nice now if you guys drop the 'lynch mob' mentality towards me and acknowledge this. I do not deserve to be 'in limbo forever'. I have made amends where I could (and am willing to continue to do so if people actually contact me to make amends with whoever else remains) and I have demonstrated a rock solid business model for the past 2 years. That has to count for something.

Anyhow, I have said my part. If anyone would like to contact me and be civil, you are welcome to e-mail me at kannos[at]nvisionphotosandart.com. I probably won't be poking my head in here often since it's rather out of my way but I felt that I should at least say -something- on the matter.

(Sorry for multiple comments, it doesn't fit in just one)
kayla_la
May. 30th, 2013 07:32 pm (UTC)
To add, maybe it is 'out of your way' to comment on here, but it would probably look better if you did so regardless of the inconvenience instead of expecting everyone to chase you on your own terms. If you owe somebody, it is your moral obligation to make an effort to reach out to them.

You can see many comments above from people who are still owed. This is your chance to reach out to them and fix things, dropping a comment about how you're a victim and you've grown up and people can email you if they want and then taking off just doesn't make you look as intent on fixing things as you seem to believe. There is a point where you have to be pro-active. This is definitely one of them.
kannoswd
May. 30th, 2013 07:38 pm (UTC)
Well, I haven't used livejournal in years, but apparently it e-mails notifications when there's updates on this post (thus why I saw your comments so fast) so that makes it a lot easier to come here since I don't have this bookmarked, so I should be able to touch base with folks more readily.

I will go skim past all the useless posts bashing me on here to try to find folks who are owed and reply to their comments and see how that goes. All I can do though is reply with my e-mail address and request that they contact me since they may not have their contact info posted for me to use that route.

I'm willing to work with folks, but I also want people to treat me with the same civility that I am showing others.
kayla_la
May. 30th, 2013 07:42 pm (UTC)
If you think it would help you, we would allow you to make a post of your own here on AB asking any old customers to email you at your new email. It would be much more visible than a comment hidden away in a large post, and would be more likely to get you the results you're looking for.

I understand losing contact information, but please try to understand that from our point of view, it really has looked like you have made no attempt to reach out to old customers. I'm trying to give you an opportunity to change that. But you also can't behave as if you don't deserve any of the things people have said about you. If you've changed, let that speak for itself, don't worry about what people are saying. Making passive-aggressive comments like you have been don't help, either, as it will make people second-guess whether or not you've really grown up.

We will be handing this entire post to one of our contacts in the FA admin team, so I'm sure any attempts made on your part to find all of these past owed people will help you in your efforts to be allowed on the site.
kannoswd
May. 30th, 2013 07:46 pm (UTC)
Actually, if being allowed to make a post like that is possible, that would make things MUCH easier since I could sort of catch everyone's attention at once and hopefully no one will miss it.

Also I don't see anything passive aggressive about what I have said. I explained my situation and clearly stated that I'm willing to work with folks; I just expect them to be civil with me, as you have been so far, for example. Thank you for that.

I'm just trying to make a living, that's all. I'm not trying to be an asshole, I'm not trying to cut anyone off in any way. I have no problem with making amends and giving people their art, I just don't want the lynch mob on me when I came here on my own trying to make things positive.
kayla_la
May. 30th, 2013 07:49 pm (UTC)
Well, we don't allow outright flaming, but I can't promise you won't have any sort of disagreements given your history.

I would still recommend looking through the comments and replying to people who have stated they're still owed, here, but after that, feel free to make a post to the community itself with your contact information and I'll approve it for you.

I'm civil because the absolute best outcome would be that everyone gets what they're owed and are happy, and future customers get artwork from someone they like. I have no interest in attacking you personally or making things hard for you just because. If said best outcome is possible, I have every intent on doing what I can to help it happen.
kannoswd
May. 30th, 2013 07:53 pm (UTC)
I have no problem with people having disagreements, especially given the terrible stuff I did, however I just expect them to be civil, as I am being. Comments telling me that I 'deserve' whatever bad things are happening financially or what not are uncalled for. No one deserves that, and it's not like I'm sitting on my butt doing nothing. I have been working and running a very clean, honest business which has made MANY people happy. I am sorry that people in the past even had to 'fall in the cracks' but I'm willing to do whatever I can to make sure they get art in the end. I see no reason why the 'best outcome' you stated isn't possible, since I am 110% willing to make it happen. :)

I'll go ahead and draft up a post now :)
kannoswd
May. 30th, 2013 08:08 pm (UTC)
Sorry for coming off really dumb here, but it's not letting me post. It says I do not have access to post in the community. Am I missing something?
sigilgoat
May. 30th, 2013 08:09 pm (UTC)
You have to be a member in order to post!
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oceandezignz
May. 30th, 2013 07:42 pm (UTC)
I'mma just say no one is bashing you as a person. They are voicing their disappointment in your prior business practices that got you removed from FA, and the way you've initially conducted yourself in that feedback/testimonial post of yours in IB.

So throwing that line out really doesn't help you. Instead stick to what you've just said; give those who've stated they're waiting on ANYTHING from you your email and leave it at that.
kannoswd
May. 30th, 2013 07:50 pm (UTC)
Well, my experiences with people on this site have not been as you describe. I have had people do malicious things, call my phone, contact people I work with in real life that have nothing to do with the fandom, etc. So please understand that, just as you guys are cautious and have your reservations about me, I have the same reservations about you guys. I didn't name call or use foul language, but I do know that there are those here who are not being constructive, like the person who said I should 'remain in limbo'.

I'm still a human being with needs. It's not like I am trying to get back on FA to buy a 60" TV or something. I just want to be able to pay my bills on time. I will not share the bills uncensored here because I know how you guys are with that sort of information, but Dragoneer HAS seen the uncensored ones and can vouch that I do have financial hardships at the moment. So no, I don't deserve to live like this and struggle given that I have changed my ways and am willing to work with people.
kayla_la
May. 30th, 2013 07:52 pm (UTC)
There will be extremists in any group, unfortunately. That's not an AB specific thing. I can tell you we don't condone such a thing and we do our best to keep people from being entirely invasive, but at the end of the day, we can't control every single person.
kannoswd
May. 30th, 2013 07:59 pm (UTC)
Indeed. I have nothing to hide about my situation, but in the past when I tried to be open and show proof in the public eye pertaining to anything like this, people yanked account numbers, phone numbers, addresses, etc and just caused all sorts of problems for me. So it's rather hard for me to take that risk now, especially since I live alone and the world is full of all sorts of crazies out there. It's a safety issue, really. I did share it in private with Dragoneer though since I felt it was relevant and I trust that he will keep it out of the hands of the crazies.

And if not, I doubt anyone wants to mess with 2 utilities accounts with a combined past due balance of $400 that haven't been paid since March. :P That situation's messed up enough without any meddling.
celestinaketzia
May. 30th, 2013 09:21 pm (UTC)
The person who said you should remain in limbo had to chase you down for over a year for a refund to his work. Surely you can understand where he is coming from, especially since he has been at the end of your old business practices and is justified in having bad memories.
kannoswd
May. 30th, 2013 09:25 pm (UTC)
Be that as it may, I have since improved my business practices VASTLY, so while what I did was a bad thing, I should not be punished for all of eternity for it. I do not deserve to live in a world of past due bills and shutoff notices for something I did years ago (and corrected, since he was refunded). What I did was bad, but it doesn't mean I deserve to live under constant duress forever now. That is not right.
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