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May. 19th, 2013

WHO: Pirate-Cashoo
WHERE: FurAffinity - http://www.furaffinity.net/user/pirate-cashoo/
WHAT: Colored bust - $40. !!AND SHE'S STILL TAKING COMMISSIONS!!
WHEN: October 2012
PROOF:

Original order in October, 2012


Proof of payment


I confirmed that I did indeed want a colored bust, and she confirmed that all of the details were fine as well. I have not received any further communication from her at this point.

EXPLAIN:
I ordered this bust from Cashoo in October, the same post a few other people fell victim to. I was fairly excited to be commissioning her because I HAVE RECEIVED WORK FROM HER IN THE PAST - shocking, right? This was in the summer of '09, and I actually also received a kiriban piece from her in January 2011, so I was fairly certain that I would be getting work done on this piece. It was only a short while after I placed my order that I became aware of her first A_Bs being posted. I figured I would give her the benefit of the doubt and wait to see what would happen.

Months passed with absolutely no attempt at communication from Cashoo. I left a few shouts on her pages to no avail. I have still not heard anything from her about my commission - and I didn't see any hint of it in the sketchdump she posted on her twitter recently, either.

As the ABs continued to pour in, I decided I'd had enough and that I was going to try and get a refund. I sent her a note on FA this past Monday and explained that I was done, that I wanted a refund, and that I needed her to answer me by Friday or else I would go about getting it on my own. Well, I hadn't checked to notice she was suspended from FA - on Friday, I called Paypal and let them know of my situation. They opened a claim, but it looks like they closed it just as quickly, so I'll likely need to call in again. The woman on the phone insisted that they would find a way to get my money back as they investigated and if there were a lot of other claims open against this person, they'd take action. They also advised I call my bank, which I'll be doing this week. I'm not holding out for my money at this point, but Cashoo needs as many marks against her as is possible.

That's not the real gem here. The real prize is that I sent Pirate-Cashoo an email from one of my spare email accounts inquiring about new commissions. She responded VERY QUICKLY. I wanted to see what her response would be when faced with the possibility of more work and consequently, more money.

Well, here it is, everyone. She's still taking commissions.



For reference, I emailed her only yesterday evening - she responded very quickly to this email. I have since set her another email from my normal email account detailing the same information in my note to her on FurAffinity, but at this point I really don't care much for what she has to say. If she's done any work on my piece, it's minimal, and I would honestly rather have my money back so that the people who have commissioned her years ago have a higher chance of getting their piece.

But still - she's STILL TAKING COMMISSIONS, and now she's switched to WESTERN UNION, of all places. Seriously - beware. I am so disappointed in this artist's downward spiral that it's almost painful.

If anyone has any tips on how I can get my money back, incidentally, that would be helpful.
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neolucky
May. 20th, 2013 06:25 am (UTC)
I admit I thought about what what happen if someone contacted her for a new commission, and this is the outcome I expected.

All I can do is shake my head, absolutely no respect for that person is left in me.

As you've already contacted Paypal, perhaps you can then contact your bank?

As always, I have to stress that Western Union is frequently used in fraud and scams all over the place, the fact Cashoo has gone to using that has me severely shocked as I'm not sure if the folks using it can legally get their money back. Never ever ever ever send money through that service to someone you don't know personally! (Just as a general fyi, not you specifically OP haha)

Edited at 2013-05-20 07:40 am (UTC)
epiceternity
May. 20th, 2013 10:15 am (UTC)
Yes, the fact she wants to use Western Union is very concerning. I wonder if it's because she's now getting problem with paypal due to commissioners trying to get their money back?
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cyiakanami
May. 20th, 2013 06:31 am (UTC)
Aside from what you stated about calling paypal and your bank again, I can't think of much else on the money issues.

Seeing she's so eager to take on new work is almost sickening. She needs to manage money much better. If she's so unwilling to get a normal job, at least she could do was write down/save information on whatever device she has and work offline then head to somewhere to upload more.

That hole she's digging is just getting deeper and deeper it seems. Very sick and sad to say the least.
calicofeathers
May. 20th, 2013 08:42 am (UTC)
Seeing she's so eager to take on new work is almost sickening. She needs to manage money much better. If she's so unwilling to get a normal job, at least she could do was write down/save information on whatever device she has and work offline then head to somewhere to upload more.

Definitely made my stomach churn. :\ But it seems to me she really has no interest in finishing the owed commissions or whatever. I mean it's not that hard to save the references/info you need while you have net access to work on it later, and it doesn't take a genius to think of that.
shukivengeance
May. 20th, 2013 07:56 am (UTC)
Mod post
Can you please edit her real name out of the paypal screencap?
revalie
May. 20th, 2013 06:37 pm (UTC)
Re: Mod post
Done, my bad. Thought I got them all but I didn't.
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whoop_zi
May. 20th, 2013 07:59 am (UTC)
I love how quickly she responded that, but she doesn't have internet or is too sick to respond to anything else. If I had any shred of belief left for her excuses I think that just about killed it. How seedy.
whoop_zi
May. 20th, 2013 07:59 am (UTC)
*responded to I:
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thaily
May. 20th, 2013 09:17 am (UTC)
I feel like a bad person for laughing at that.

Why don't you take a seat right over there in A_B, miss Cashoo?
oceandezignz
May. 21st, 2013 01:40 pm (UTC)
MOD POST
Thaily you know darn well this is not allowed. At all. Ever.

Especially considering we've just written a mod post specifically telling members of A_B to stop.

This isn't your warning, this is your suspension notice. You've been a member of this community too damn long to be behaving like this, I am 1000% disappointed.
hrafnsauga
May. 20th, 2013 09:41 am (UTC)
this is absolutely sickening....
thecreativepen
May. 20th, 2013 09:58 am (UTC)
I'm absolutely disgusted right now. The fact that she is not only attempting to take on new work, but going through Western Union of all places is a new low.

It goes to show how desperate she is; bypassing Paypal because of all the chargebacks I'm assuming she's getting, and trying to use a service where she most likely will be able to run with the money if the commission goes sour.

I couldn't imagine doing what she's doing. The lack of ethics and professionalism has me at a loss for words.
celestinaketzia
May. 20th, 2013 10:24 am (UTC)
Whoa, serious red flag. Very, very serious. I can only imagine that her Paypal itself is either locked or very much in the red due to folks getting their money back rightfully.
norsepaw
May. 20th, 2013 10:44 am (UTC)
Next you know you have to pay her to finish it.
cat_claw_fever
May. 20th, 2013 10:57 am (UTC)
Oh dear, not her again >.
hellebore
May. 20th, 2013 11:38 am (UTC)
The Western Union thing is very distressing.
scamps
May. 20th, 2013 01:03 pm (UTC)
The fact that she is bypassing Paypal (I assume she just left paypal because of what would seem to me many customers using charge-backs to obtain their money back rightfully for a service that was not provided).

Many more potential customers may be convinced by her to use Western Union, Western union would make it much easier for her to just take the money and run, Isn't WU what the Nigerian scammers/other shady dealers use?, it's a new low.

Edited at 2013-05-20 01:04 pm (UTC)
duster
May. 20th, 2013 04:16 pm (UTC)
Isn't WU what the Nigerian scammers/other shady dealers use?
Yes, it is. It's also used in a ridiculous amount of other types of fraud.

I hope that Western Union sends up red flags out the wazoo. It really should.
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killercacti
May. 20th, 2013 01:41 pm (UTC)
I really can't believe she is pushing new clients to use Western Union! How incredibly shady. Holy moley
torinir2
May. 20th, 2013 01:59 pm (UTC)
Wow... I'm surprised she hasn't gotten the hint yet. Banned from FA, PayPal account likely locked down, and she's still trying to scam people? She needs an up close and personal meeting with a clue-by-four and a stack of cluepons. Or a police cruiser. Either one would work.
0acorn0
May. 20th, 2013 09:36 pm (UTC)
>clue-by-four and a stack of cluepons

that made me laugh
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purpule
May. 20th, 2013 02:38 pm (UTC)
This girl needs to be imprisoned, and I don't say that lightly. I don't think she'll stop.
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