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Beware: KitNabarii/BlueTigerKitty

WHO: KitNabarii / BlueTigerKitty

WHERE: http://www.furaffinity.net/user/kitnabarii / http://www.furaffinity.net/user/bluetigerkitty

WHAT: She won digital YCH auction for $50, link to the auction (NSFW): http://www.furaffinity.net/view/10030994/

WHEN: Auction won on March 2nd, never recieved payment


PROOF:

The original submission with their bids in (NSFW): http://www.furaffinity.net/view/10030994/
First note from here giving me refs on the ending date: http://puu.sh/2TbHy.png
Reminder note for payment (read but not answered): http://puu.sh/2TbHK.png
Reminder note for payment (read not answered): http://puu.sh/2TbI5.png
Yet another reminder and response that she will pay on later that week: http://puu.sh/2TbJQ.png http://puu.sh/2TbIh.png
Another reminder and her response (she answered on the same day): http://puu.sh/2TbKq.png
More excuses: http://puu.sh/2TbL8.png
Excuses (my message was sent on 16th): http://puu.sh/2TbMv.png
Last message from me (not read): http://puu.sh/2TbVW.png

EXPLAIN:

I held a YCH mature auction and KitNabarii bid on both of the poses. She won the picture for $50 total and I gave her the quote and told her to send the refs to me. I received the refs but not the payment. I contacted her again a week after asking for the payment but never received a response from her. Send another reminder on the payment another week later but didn't get any kind of respose for that either. On the third try (almost month later) I got a respose that she will be paying later that week, but of course I never got the payment.

Because I had not heard from her on Friday or weekend for that matter, I sent her another note asking for the payment and she told me that she was at hospital (I think?). I received a response that she would pay me on April 12th and I told her that I would be waiting for till then. I was really frustrated but being way too nice about this and decided to wait. Friends told me that it has taken way too long for her payment but I was still being too nice about it because I really needed that money.

After sending yet another message on the payment after the 12th, I got a message from her saying that her Paypal was closed down till May 1st (she said that she told me but I went trought every message and she never told me that). I said that I would wait till then but of course I got nothing after 1st and sent her one last reminder message on 3rd. I will not wait anymore because I know I wont get the payment (unless she pays after this post has been published).

I know I was being too nice and gave her over 2 months to pay because of her 'issues'. She never told me anything beforehand, only after I had sent her note. The last note is still unread and both of her accounts have been inactive for couple weeks. I learned that I will not let myself give the commissioner that much time to pay when the payment was supposed to be sent in three days.
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celestinaketzia
May. 15th, 2013 09:23 pm (UTC)
Looks like she hasn't changed one bit. Thank you for bringing this up.
thistlewolf
May. 15th, 2013 09:34 pm (UTC)
I'd seen her flitting all over FA with no drama, so I figured no news was good news.

Unfortunately not :C Sorry you had to deal with this OP. Good luck if you decide to relist it.
nxcritter
May. 15th, 2013 09:51 pm (UTC)
Yeah this has happened to me only they are non bid YCH's I just Ignore and have her already blacklisted.

Your not alone and I'm sorry this happened to you..

Tip that might help!

If you hold auctions like this make sure there is pay date. If they don't pay by that time then reopen the auction. If they want the spot they will rebid.
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timelapsedecay
May. 15th, 2013 10:09 pm (UTC)
I'd like to point out you said you wouldn't post her to A_B and well... that was either a lie or you went back on what you said, because here we are
In the future it's just better to say "I will post you to A_B if x deadline is not met" or just not mention A_B to them at all. Saying you won't and then doing it anyway- even if she's a bad client- is dishonest.
Otherwise you handled this pretty much as best as you could
sacch
May. 15th, 2013 10:35 pm (UTC)
Seriously, this. What's with this kind of thing popping up in the last few bewares? It's unnecessary. I agree that the beware is warranted, but don't make yourself look bad in the process if you're the OP of a beware.
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duster
May. 15th, 2013 10:15 pm (UTC)
Yyyeah, she tends to buy buy buy then come up with a million and one excuses as to why she can't pay. She's been doing it for a while and it doesn't make a whole lot of sense.

Check her tag for her laundry list of completely outlandish excuses, it's pretty ridiculous.
sacch
May. 15th, 2013 10:40 pm (UTC)
Really sorry to hear that you got burned. This isn't new for this commissioner and it should be made clear that NO ONE is to accept commissions from her.

You did great in handling the transaction, so props to you. I was surprised at how calm your tone read in each of those notes, but in a good way- most artists that are stiffed on payment grow more and more impatient and it shows. The only thing that rubbed me the wrong way was mentioning A_B at all- whether you're doing it or not, it's just not a good idea to bring it up, IMO.

Beware well warranted.
mekania
May. 15th, 2013 11:19 pm (UTC)
I don't understand this attitude, I've seen a lot of advice posts telling people to mention posting the situation here in order to get a response. It's only these last two posts where I see people arguing against that.

Generally I agree that it's better not to say you won't post and then do it later but this is both a review site and a tool so I don't blame people for using it when they're out of their money/time.

The artist whose behavior warranted a bad review enough that the customer had to threaten exposure to get results is, to me, someone who needs to be posted more than pretty much everyone else. If a customer lying to get what they paid for/their money back is a personal concern for artists, then maybe they shouldn't put the customer in the position to need to do so.
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ducttapeninja
May. 15th, 2013 10:47 pm (UTC)
Good to see Kuro still hasn't learned... Wonder how many artists she has waiting for payments this time around? :/
shariea
May. 15th, 2013 11:13 pm (UTC)
I had the same situation happen a few months ago from this person. She wanted two wing-it slots I was holding as a special, sent me all the information for the characters. Said she would pay that friday, nothing. Went on back and forth for a month before I finally just wrote it off.
nightlinez
May. 15th, 2013 11:16 pm (UTC)
I am really sorry that this has happened to you too D: . I can't believe that she is STILL doing this and even using similar excuses. You did do great in handling this.

I had to post about her back last year because she owed me payments for 1 badge and 2 auctions (over $100), promised to pay and made up excuses to delay payment. She also did this to a friend of mine xc.

If she harasses you for posting to AB block her. (just as a warning from experience)
sbneko
May. 15th, 2013 11:21 pm (UTC)
It's really sad to see that she's still doing this stuff.
mekania
May. 15th, 2013 11:21 pm (UTC)
This girl seems like bad news. My advice is even if she does contact you with the money, don't take it. You've given her more than enough chances. Maybe try reposting the auction?
ryunwoofie
May. 15th, 2013 11:30 pm (UTC)
Huh, never knew she was a problem customer. Granted I only worked with her twice and she was perfectly punctual and patient. This is unfortunate.
tealmoonxiv
May. 16th, 2013 12:24 am (UTC)
Not again.

Same thing happened to someone I watch and I've been trying to convince them to post here.
pandacat_magic
May. 16th, 2013 01:04 am (UTC)
I'm glad she popped up on here again, she gave my friend an awful runaround on her sketch book auction; and the same thing with another friend on her YCH. ;c

My only experience was with an item trade, in which she never responded on it. So I brushed it off and never bothered with my half of it.
ciderfox
May. 16th, 2013 02:53 am (UTC)
Yea, I was the one who had a bad experience with her with nightlinez up there. She also said to us that she was in the hospital and that's why she couldn't pay. She freaked out and guilt-tripped us for asking for our money, it was nuts.

Sorry you had to find this out the hard way :< sometimes I wish there could be public FA announcements about clients like her, ugh.
marus_puppy
May. 16th, 2013 04:17 am (UTC)
This gal's eyes are bigger than her wallet... If even HALF of her issues are real (I'm currently assuming that she's making them all up to get out of paying when she realizes she just doesn't have the money) then she shouldn't be getting ANY commissions. Period.

I'm guessing she abandoned the account knowing she'd be posted here because of her reputation. Sorry you got dragged through this!
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