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Who: Ravinghachi/Neotoxin Wolf/Skittles/hellishballoffur
What: Trade-RavingHachi was to supply two conbadges as payment for a premade fursuit tail.
When: September 2012
Proof: Screenshots will be Provided below
Details:

  1. While at Saboten2012 I was selling a few things at a mini flea market the con had going on Saturday night. Among the things I was selling was a fursuit tail. Ravinghachi approached me asking if I would trade art the tail. An agreement was reached, and she left with the tail.

  2. I sent her the details for the badges when I got home. The original note can be seen here (this is the 'lots of details' image) which has links and a detailed description outlining what I specifically wanted for the badges.

  3. On November 2nd I received this reply that progress was excellent and she could drop them off if we set up a place to meet. During the holiday season it's really difficult for me have to for meeting people, so I asked for a scan. She said her scanner was broken, but had been uploading a lot of photos during that time. I asked if it was possible for her to send a photo of the badges.

  4. On November 26th she sent me a note saying she was going to post my badge that night, but days went by and the scan wasn't posted.

  5. On November 30th she responded the same day with a link to the badge (screenshot here). This is the badge that was posted. It's cute and all, but not really what I had asked for. In my reply I tried to politely express my concern for the lack of second badge and my description not being followed. She told me the second badge was still being worked on. I tried to figure out what to do about the first badge being incorrect and communication ceased.

  6. I then saw her wearing the tail at TaiyouCon (Jan 4-6) while working at my dealer's table. Unfortunately I was unable to talk to her in person.

  7. On Jan 8th I sent her a note which was read within 24 hrs, but has not been answered. That note can be seen here.

  8. I left another comment on her page of Feb 23rd (screenshot here from my nexus). When I checked back tonight she had deleted it, with no answer to me at all (screenshot here). She responded by saying she didn't see/delete the comments. (I seem to have misplaced that screenshot.) I asked again for the money she owes me, she told me she had to use her mother's paypal because she didn't have one.

  9. I waited again with no contact, so I left another comment on her front page. Her responses are here. She says her Paypal money was stolen, and that's why she can't pay me.

  10. I noted her as mentioned, this is the final note I sent, which was read, before making this post.

Here's the entire album of screenshots, since there are too many to post above.

EDIT: 4/22/13 My account has been blocked. [screenshot] I'm obviously not getting my money or anything else from this artist.

TL:DR RavingHachi and I agreed to a trade at Saboten2012: my $60 tail for two conbadges by her. After being given specific instructions, she did one of the badges which did not follow the guidelines set. After I mentioned to her that it wasn't right, she flipped out on me and stopped answer my messages. After trying to contact her again she blocked me and deleted my comments, then proceeded to tell people 'it was settled and she had paid me'. This isn't true: she still has the tail, and I didn't receive either of the conbadges.

EDIT: 3/20/2014 I have not been compensated for the tail as of this writing, contrary to what this she is currently telling people.
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oceandezignz
Apr. 5th, 2013 05:57 am (UTC)
Did the artist show you any samples of their work before you accepted the trade? I'm asking because their gallery is fursuit shots and a piece of free art from Kayla_la (that they might want to actually IDK say they GOT it from her? That's a bit miffing IMHO) also because you mention being disappointed in the work, but mainly due to the pose/concept you wanted not being used.
teahound
Apr. 5th, 2013 06:07 am (UTC)
They did credit it here in their main gallery, but not on the scraps one? I don't get that. I am also puzzled by the lack of art in their gallery if they wanna trade it for stuff.
oceandezignz
Apr. 5th, 2013 06:11 am (UTC)
How bizarre, how bizarre (cue the quiet mariachi music). But yeah it strikes me similar to one beware we've had of a dude who was selling custom tails at a con with a bare table and the hustling line of "You need a tail"... awkward and shady.
zrcalo
Apr. 6th, 2013 09:33 am (UTC)
http://www.furaffinity.net/view/9328167/

There's /one/ picture that looks to be their style in their scraps.
mottenfest
Apr. 7th, 2013 04:47 am (UTC)
She was wearing a badge she said she had made, and I thought the art was cute, so I agreed. It's not the quality I'm upset with, it's that she disregarded the instructions, was a nightmare to contact, and simply didn't even do the second badge. :/
zrcalo
Apr. 8th, 2013 03:22 am (UTC)
I completely agree. Her manner of handling her business is pretty bad. Contact is always key, especially with commissions. :/ she probably doesnt get hardly any commissions. Has she done badges for anyone else? Or were you her first?
mottenfest
Apr. 8th, 2013 05:22 am (UTC)
It's been a long time, but I think it was this one she was wearing?
http://www.furaffinity.net/view/9088360/
Otherwise it looks like she might just have done this other one as a gift http://www.furaffinity.net/view/9503866/ to someone else.
ravensmoon666
May. 23rd, 2014 10:40 am (UTC)
I know this is an old AB but I had to comment when I saw this badge. It was copied off of http://img-cache.cdn.gaiaonline.com/e286d484962df259d5848daa7705fb48/http://i255.photobucket.com/albums/hh133/calliekayoutcast654/furry%20rave/rave.jpg by the artist deathjingle. So that would have set red alerts to me.
metallik_hasse
Jun. 1st, 2014 02:03 am (UTC)
That's really disappointing. I had no idea that even the badge she used to con me was stolen, but sadly it doesn't surprise me.
koohiimonsutaa
Apr. 6th, 2013 09:37 am (UTC)
Shouldn't have let her walk away with the tail. That was a big mistake. It should have been shipped out when progress on art was seen.
mottenfest
Apr. 7th, 2013 04:37 am (UTC)
I know that now, and certainly feel silly for having made that mistake.
mottenfest
Apr. 7th, 2013 04:47 am (UTC)

I forgot to mention she's local, so I thought it would be easier to make this trade happen.
scribdoodles
Apr. 9th, 2013 03:44 am (UTC)
This greatly disappoints me knowing something liked this happened at a con I'm staff on. She mentioned before that she's also in a situation with someone who isn't refunding her when they broke a fursuit contract.

I agree with others, never give someone your part until they completed theirs even if they are local. I will gladly talk to Neo if you need me to since she's pretty frequent on FB. If she doesn't follow through with her end of the bargain, I will gladly do the badges for you since I'm local.
mottenfest
Apr. 9th, 2013 05:32 pm (UTC)
The reason I let her have the tail, was that she seemed so excited about it and sincere about doing her half. I'm honestly kicking myself pretty hard for letting my guard down.

If you'd like to do the badges, that would be kind of you, but certainly I'd hate for you to feel obligated.
scribdoodles
Apr. 9th, 2013 06:52 pm (UTC)
It's not a problem! I'm actually really disappointed in her for doing this. I just don't want you to walk away empty handed since a tail is a lot to give up.
mottenfest
Apr. 9th, 2013 06:58 pm (UTC)
I really appreciate you reaching out to me like this. I'd love it if you made the badges for my boyfriend and myself. <3
shukivengeance
Apr. 9th, 2013 08:49 pm (UTC)
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Edited at 2013-04-09 08:49 pm (UTC)
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