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In September of last year, the artist kanawinkie promised that she would send me art, albeit *free art that was done of one of my characters for an art exchange. She said that she'll mail the art out for me, that money was not needed, and it's not here. I gave her my home address. I re-sent her my home address in case she might have lost the first Email of my address. I offered money twice to her in Emails in case she really might need money to ship it, even though she refused the original offer of money and would send me the art.

I have sent her Emails after this, after she said she would send the art, these have been spaced out inquiries (once a month) and these have gone ignored, not one peep out of her, no information on the status, no information to even say she is not going to mail the art out, like maybe she lost it, no - just dead silence on her end. That is not nice, free art or not. When you say you're going to do something, you do it. I dunno, will this be how she treats paying customers if she ever gets them? It is now February and still not a single word, and no sign of anything in the mail. I think she is deliberately ignoring me; I know my Emails are not getting bounced; she is simply refusing to tell me anything.

*I probably have no right to complain but... as some one who was an artist, well, as a human being, it hurts to be told I'd be getting art from another fellow artist and not see anything and be completely and utterly ignored. :{
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frisket17
Feb. 13th, 2006 03:29 am (UTC)
This is my two cents... I don't think you should look a gift horse in the mouth. :/

I mean... You didn't exactly -pay- for it.. and yea. It hurts not to get something you expected, but if you have no money loss, and no time lost (and have the digital/scanned version)... Well. I'd not complain too much.

Frankly I don't think she deserves to be mentioned on Artist_Beware... :/
schnee
Feb. 13th, 2006 03:41 am (UTC)
Have you tried contacting her in other ways? It *could* be an overzealous spam filter...
xianjaguar
Feb. 13th, 2006 04:08 am (UTC)
*nods* Agreed with everyone else.
If you got the .jpg, that's good enough.

Yes, promises broken from one artist to another ARE disappointing, but she might have gotten annoyed at the constant 'reminders' when it was just free art to begin with.
matrices
Feb. 13th, 2006 08:19 am (UTC)
Personally, and I'm being VERY honest here. If I drew free art, even if I mentioned/offered to mail it to a person, even for free or if they wanted to pay.. if they were so brazen to constantly hound me for any reason (more art, to "hurry" and mail it, etc) my mind goes into shut down mode and there's really nothing I have left to say to that person, and I'm not willing to do anything. If a similar situation came upon me like that, I'd be insulted and they'd honestly be ignored.
xianjaguar
Feb. 13th, 2006 08:24 am (UTC)
*nodnods!*
I think a lot of people would go into 'shut-down' mode. I know *I* would too.
capuu
Feb. 13th, 2006 06:31 pm (UTC)
Yep, I've done that. It's not like I make FREE offers everyday, so the few I do, I don't forget; They get marked down with the paid work in the same little black book. To be persistently nagged and prodded for it is adding insult to injury.

I mean, hey there Fellow-Stranger-On-The-Internet! Ever entertain the notion that the glass /was/ half-full with the artist across until you tipped it over with those needy needy doubts?
thaily
Feb. 13th, 2006 05:00 am (UTC)
"In September of last year, the artist [info]kanawinkie promised that she would send me art, albeit *free art"

And there ends your right to complain.
OMG I can't believe you, she ALREADY MADE YOU FREE ART and now that she's too preoccupied or distracted or whatever to mail it out to you FOR FREE you post about her HERE?!
Here?! Where we post about artists who owe people hunreds of dollars in commissions and won't even produce a sketch? Where people check who's listed before they commission/trade with someone?

This post is a warning alright, never EVER to trade with YOU!
Trades are supposed to be fun and you're whining about free art. Jeez.
the_snappy_wolf
Feb. 13th, 2006 07:07 am (UTC)
Wow... I'm sorry but this post seems really... asshole-esque to me.. =/ It was FREE you didn't PAY anything. If you're gonna get this worked up over every dissapointment in your life I think you oughtta invest in a plastic bubble to lock yourself in and keep the world out D=

So she didn't mail you free art... so what... ^.O_o.^ Maybe she got distracted, maybe she doesn't have computer access, maybe HER HOUSE BURNED DOWN and the art was lost or something or her dog got run over and she had gone into a term of imense mourning.... maybe she became a nun =/ Geebus man...

All I can advise you to do is let it go... it's not a big deal, sure not getting something you want sucks but it happens to people all the time.
atateatarin
Feb. 13th, 2006 08:47 am (UTC)
I'm on Friskett and Xianjaguar's bandwagon here.

Especially the part about shutting off. I really can't stand being heckled or anything like that — even over a trade. If I am ridled and goaded enough, unless I've put a lot of work into what I have already, I'll just forget about it. I have a lot more important things to worry about.

I can sometimes take up to two months to answer an email. It's not because I'm ignorant or lazy, it's because I'm very very busy. What's to say this person hasn't had something important come up like college or a sudden move, or a computer crash? These things happen, and not everyone can afford to buy time around them, especially a dead computer — I know if mine died I'd be without the internet until I got a new one, which wouldn't be for a really long time.


In the end, it's free art. We all are promised things in life that just fall through, and most of the time it's generally unfair to chastise someone because they chose to change their minds, or events caused them to act differently.
pinkpuppybelly
Feb. 13th, 2006 04:11 pm (UTC)
And there is one perfect reason for artists to not offer free art. Maybe her email address has changed. Maybe with her being overseas, things have gotten pushed back. I would forget about the original and be thankful she did free art for you period. This post doesn't make me be wary of Kana, but wary of people like you; People that can't take a gift for what it is. After all, she sent you an electronic copy, right? That's more than tons of people ever get.
auradeva
Feb. 13th, 2006 05:24 pm (UTC)
I love your icon! It's perfecly emo.
komichi
Feb. 14th, 2006 06:33 am (UTC)
I think everyone else is being a little unfair.

Yes, it was free art, but she did make a promise and she hasn't responded to you.

Does it belong here? No.

Are you being a bit rude by emailing her so often? Yeah, and it's likely that it's gotten her to "shut down" about it as others have said.

But really, everyone's being too harsh. It may be a much lesser offense, but she's still not keeping her word.

I'd just suggest the OP let it drop and see what ends up happening. At least nothing is lost if they don't get it, since they didn't pay anything for it, right? :)
thaily
Feb. 15th, 2006 01:14 pm (UTC)
"But really, everyone's being too harsh."

He's suggesting that Kanawinkie ignores paying customers. She could -legally- persue it as libel that hurts her income as an artist, no we're not overreacting.
komichi
Feb. 15th, 2006 08:18 pm (UTC)
Now that is DEFINITELY an over-reaction.

Go back and read what the OP said:

I dunno, will this be how she treats paying customers if she ever gets them?

That isn't saying that she treats her paying customers badly, it's asking the community - or, more specifically, those who have worked with the artist before - how she normally treats people. It's poorly phrased, but still only a discussion starter.

It's perfectly acceptable to be doubtful and wonder "well, if that's how she treats me, how does she treat everyone else?" I think everyone else here has had that moment of questioning before about something. Hell, it's arguable that we're in a community based on that feeling.

But no, it isn't libel. It's highly unlikely that it'd stand up in court if she tried to persue the OP on it, especially since there's no proof of her losing any business from it. No one has come here saying "Oh, yes, she's such a horrible artist - never buy from her!" or "I'm glad you warned me, I'll never buy from her." Actually, the opposite is true - it seems everyone here is in her defence, which could actually boost her reputation.
thaily
Feb. 18th, 2006 01:00 pm (UTC)
Not everyone who reads this comments, especially not if everyone's comments are going in one direction their opinion is the exact opposite.

You can claim it's an overreaction all you want, but as long as you're not the target of libel like this I suppose you're just not going to get it.
komichi
Feb. 18th, 2006 06:30 pm (UTC)
There's a really simple solution to this, you know. If you or kanawinkie have a problem with this post being here - especially to the extent that you're claiming libel of all things - why don't you just report it to the moderators to have removed or marked as invalid?

I stand by my word that this would not stand in court as libel. I also stand by my opinion that people here are being way too harsh to the OP. You can disagree all you want but it's not going to change my opinion, so why don't you work to fix the problem to your satisfaction instead?
kanawinkie
Feb. 17th, 2006 05:45 pm (UTC)
Whoa! Hey there, I got pointed this way.

I'm sorry hun, this is all my fault, I've been very disenchanted with the internet of late and have kind of shunned it. I'd completely forgotten about sending that out to ya and as some have mentioned I've been traveling and moving lately so this completely slipped my mind.

Very unprofessional of me, it's true.
I remember seeing it when I was packing up to move, so I'll go on a search for it this weekend.
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