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WHO: Casey Barden

WHERE http://fursuitauctions.livejournal.com/2620266.html

WHAT: Fursuit Commission (Partial Mienshao OC)

Start of commission: 8/1/12
Payment made: 8/31/12

Loss of contact periods:
9/19/12 - 10/22/12
10/22/12 - 2/20/13 -
"Hey sweetie! I'm so sorry it's taken a while to get back to you! We're having computer troubles right now & should be getting our computer back soon in about a week. It's over-heating really bad & we had to send it back to get it fixed. I will have tons of pictures for you then! Just dropping a quick note to let you know I'm still here & still working on suit."
and 9/11/13 - 1/6/14
On 1/6/14, she responded stating apologies and mentioned refunding me $50 (have not seen this yet) plus shipping me the fursuit head, which is furred (but i'm going to re-do the furring), the foam finger gloves she made, maybe some other small things she did and all of the fur that is left over from the project.
1/28/14 - Contacted stating she will ship (never did)
1/28/14 - 2/22/14 NO CONTACT AGAIN.
2/26/14 - Received everything in the mail, it all fits and works perfectly. Just took forever!


Their facebook account has SOME activity on it https://www.facebook.com/casey.barden?ref=ts&fref=ts
and I cannot tell if their other account does https://www.facebook.com/Fuzztasticfun?ref=ts&fref=ts

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( 26 comments — Leave a comment )
Dec. 31st, 2012 12:04 pm (UTC)
I'm sort of suspicious. they said they'd get their computer fixed in about a week, and yet it's two months now without any progress. did they show any activity on their faceobok account? if so, that means they have a way to get access to messages, and that means that they are ignoring you.

aside from that, it does not take 2 months to figure out what is wrong with a computer, especially for a thing like overheating. even if they can't find a solution, they could have taken the initiative to buy a new computer, or rent a temporary one, to get out all the messages they need regarding commissions.

Also, the journal you linked to has an access forbidden on it. i can't see it .

Also, there is no such thing as August 32nd. You might want to change it to the 31st so it matches with the dates of your transaction log.

Edited at 2012-12-31 12:09 pm (UTC)
Dec. 31st, 2012 08:19 pm (UTC)
Hi there, thank you for notifying me about my typos I wish to keep as much information as accurate as possible and adding more if it helps. The thread they contacted me on (linked) is a community which requires joining to see I suppose :/ I could screen shot it.

And yes I am suspicious as well. Their facebook account does show updates, but only once in a great while. I linked to those just now and fixed the typo.... I'm quite sad that they have not responded and only have decided to respond during the days I could have possibly done a dispute...

Edit: If a payment was sent as a non-personal gift.

Edited at 2012-12-31 08:49 pm (UTC)
Jan. 1st, 2013 12:43 am (UTC)
Well here is her FA http://www.furaffinity.net/user/sashasoftpaw/

Looks like she has been on it in at least the past month. I don't think in this day and age not having a working computer is an excuse to not contact a commissioner. Almost every phone has the ability to access the internet one way or another.

Secondly, you sent payment as a gift? Big no-no.
Jan. 1st, 2013 03:35 am (UTC)
Wow I didn't find her FA page yet, thank you for showing me!
I agree, I would be very pronto and go to the Library to message on any updates right away or a friend's house or anything I could do if someone paid me for something.

And yeah, I sent it as a gift because she has a website, fursuits, and it looks very professional. She also contacted me a whole lot of the time with many messages (felt like it was every day or more than that) on details and other things about the commission. I didn't think anyone with such a professional website and contact information would stall so badly with a commission before... It doesn't seem like most other ones. I guess I can't trust even professional looking people anymore.
Jan. 1st, 2013 03:58 am (UTC)
All I can say is you -never- send money for a commission as a gift. It doesn't matter if the person is professional or not. If anything goes wrong you can't get it back.
Jan. 1st, 2013 04:16 am (UTC)
Alrighty... Live and learn I guess.
Jan. 1st, 2013 04:10 am (UTC)
Professionalism should not be rewarded, it should be expected. Especially in a transaction. Your money is as good as gone unless she send you some back or the like.
Jan. 1st, 2013 04:15 am (UTC)
Ah, alright :/
Jan. 1st, 2013 04:32 pm (UTC)
" I guess I can't trust even professional looking people anymore."

Honestly, on the internet it's always best to treat everything with a healthy suspicion. Even if they look professional, you may want to take into account that artists can screw up.

And while this doesn't mean you should trust no-one, it does mean you need to take steps to insure your own safety, such as not sending money as a gift when you're dealing with sums like $100.

Especially when you don't know this person at all and only have a website to judge them by.

[Edit]: And I forgot to say: a partial fursuit for only $100?
I doubt that would cover the entire material-cost and working time. If it sounds to good (or too cheap) to be true, it probably is.

Edited at 2013-01-01 04:33 pm (UTC)
Jan. 1st, 2013 10:22 pm (UTC)
$100 was the down payment.
Jan. 2nd, 2013 12:01 am (UTC)
Ah, I must have missed that. My apologies for that.

Still, if the price is only $200 as it says on the Livejournal-screenshot, isn't that still really cheap by fursuit-standards? Not that I claim to very knowledgeable about fursuits, since I really am not involved with that business at all, but I would assume the materials already cost quite a lot. o.O
Jan. 2nd, 2013 12:12 am (UTC)
Fur can be $20-$35 a yard, and that's common colors.
Foam is often $30 a yard for just 1/4 inch thickness.

I don't know anything about resin.
Jan. 2nd, 2013 01:06 am (UTC)
A yard is almost a meter, right?

Then again, I wouldn't know how much would be needed for a fursuit. I was just wondering if the price for the partial was uncommonly low or not. o.O
Jan. 2nd, 2013 03:00 am (UTC)
yard is 3 feet c:
Jan. 2nd, 2013 03:10 am (UTC)
A yard is just over a meter. So the prices per meter would be roughly equivalent.
Feb. 10th, 2013 02:01 pm (UTC)
Sorry for the lateness of the response but only noticed it today.

A metre (meter in the US) is 3.28 feet, often rounded to 3 feet 3 inches.

A yard is exactly 3 feet.
Jan. 2nd, 2013 06:42 am (UTC)
I guess that depends where you shop as well. Most foam I see is $11 a yard for 1/2 inch thickness and fur if DF from $10-$22 a yard (but they not be the type they may or may not be using).
Jan. 2nd, 2013 07:14 pm (UTC)
Last I looked none of DF's long pile fure was under $18.

And as an added note there are special super long furs that are over $60 a yard.
Jan. 1st, 2013 09:11 pm (UTC)
Unfortunately, the biggest mistake was sending it as a gift as others have said. Not only is it against Paypal's ToS, but it also removes your ability to file a dispute.

I'm so sorry that this is happening to you. =\ It's a shame when hindsight is 20/20 and I hope she does get in contact with you.
Jan. 1st, 2013 06:14 am (UTC)
A "Professional looking" site means nothing.

Anyone can set up a good looking website.
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Jan. 2nd, 2013 08:20 am (UTC)
Yeah D: I know what to do and what not to do based on reviews on sellers. If someone's happy with my work, so am I. Otherwise i'll work something out to a win-win.

$200 sounds cheap but i've done full suit commission for basically $200, since she looks semi-new at it I expected her to have all the same reasons as I had (I like what I do and back then I had free materials and cheaper means of making them, but no experience at all XD). I guess a website don't mean much, that's how I assumed she must be a professional or was more well-known than she truly is. I'm very new with the furry community -.o

-I make my own suits now and sell them, so I don't have much to feel too bad about now that I actually found an income stream I actually enjoy. So, yeah... I might ask for a refund or pics of work but that's the best I can do. XD
Jan. 2nd, 2013 09:17 am (UTC)
Unfortunately she isn't new to this, she's been at it for a while now if you've seen how old her youtube videos are you can get an idea. I just hope she's a slow worker and aimply forgot to get back in contact with you.
$200 isn't cheap to me XD So yea if anything I just hope she refunds you.
Jan. 2nd, 2013 10:20 am (UTC)
Thank you, it's good to know she's been at it for a while because I haven't found many threads or posts about her so far that looked bad (negative feedback and the like)- my guess is she's a slow worker and always has been my thought- though who knows what may be in store XD
Apr. 28th, 2016 12:19 am (UTC)
I found this really old thread about our commission fiasco and at the time was too embarrassed to comment.
I wanted to let you know that I finally responded to it, and I am still very sorry when I think about all I put you through to get that suit.
I'm really, really sorry. It was a learning experience I will not soon forget. It was my first time taking a commission from someone I didn't know. I'm never taking commissions from people I don't know ever again. It's just not worth the disappointment it causes the commissioner, plus I couldn't make part of the costume due to my inexperience.
I'd only made 4 fursuits and refurred 1, at the time. None of them have special padding anywhere. Just sandwich style gloves, which I thought I'd be making when I took the commission.

It's been 3 years and I still feel really bad and cringey about it. I've stuck to not taking commissions from people I don't already know; just because I -CAN- make fursuits, doesn't mean I should. I'm not a professional. It's a hobby, so I won't try to do it professionally. I'll stick to keeping it as a hobby for me to do for myself or with a friend. Again, I'm very, very sorry.
Apr. 28th, 2016 12:45 am (UTC)
My only main trouble was the loss of contact. Would be totally fine had you been around and asking for some help, I build fursuits and could always help. Even once a week to check in with new work or questions would have been a bit better! I still have the fursuit here, so yes I did receive it from you to prove your truth worthy in that aspect. The loss of contact was just what the trouble here was ^^;
Apr. 28th, 2016 12:00 am (UTC)
Old thread, I know.
This was my first time doing a commission for someone who was not a friend I already knew. I learned my lesson that just because I -CAN- make fursuits for others, doesn't mean I should. Not when life has potential to get in the way and delay, and not when I am so forgetful about responding. Not when it causes so much disappointment.

I have apologized, and while I finished the head, except for furring the jaw, I sent them everything. I sent the items I had completed, the incomplete gloves, the fur that had been ordered, and extra fursuit props. I also refunded back half of their payment, as the other half had been spent on materials (which, as I had added had all been mailed).
The commissioner was very happy with what had been completed.

I could not make the padded gloves that were requested. I tried and tried, and could not figure out how to make the pattern over them.

For the record, I would like to say that I had only made 5 fursuits at the time and all were personal except for one which was for a friend in Florida.

If I ever get a wild hair to sell fursuits (unless prefabricated), someone slap me, and don't take me up on it.

I have made one fursuit since then for a local friend that lives near me. She was able to be present through the process and assist in making it (she did the machine sewing, I did the hand sewing and made the head).

My sincerest apologies. I won't ever take fursuit comissions from people I don't know ever again. It's not worth the disappointment it causes them.

Edited at 2016-04-28 12:04 am (UTC)
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