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WHO: Multiple accounts (Klinx, Newbieadopts, Celestyal, SurveyOnTheGo, ImInVain, etc.)

WHERE: www.furaffinity.net - Multiple accounts, and creating more.

WHAT: Selling Adoptables / Plushies / Digital Art without delivery; Selling artwork that is not owned by the account owner.

WHEN: ~2 weeks (02Dec2012) and still ongoing.

EXPLAIN: For the past two weeks, Fur Affinity has been dealing with a rash of new accounts being created for the explicit purpose of attempting to sell 'stolen artwork'. These accounts only seem to remain active for a few days, reposting auctions that have already been won (again, of stolen art- usually taken from VCL or DA galleries) and then notifying the winners of where to send their payments. These payments are currently being made over PayPal, with instruction to send as a 'gift', so it may not be contested once the account is found to be a scam.

If you currently conduct business over Fur Affinity, please be aware that this is an ongoing issue, and that we are dealing with the separate accounts as soon as we find them. The user(s) have been hopping from one IP address to another, so we have been unable to maintain an IP ban on them, and have to rely on singular account suspensions. If you feel you have come across an account of this nature, please contact me directly through notes at

www.furaffinity.net/user/Bazeel
Artist's beware has moved!
Do NOT repost your old bewares. They are being archived.
https://artistsbeware.info/

Comments

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celestinaketzia
Dec. 15th, 2012 09:15 pm (UTC)
Well darn. I suppose making a separate FA account for the sole purpose of selling adopts is a bad idea right now?

Thank you for warning us!
sigilgoat
Dec. 15th, 2012 09:17 pm (UTC)
Well if you link back to your main account, and establish your account with some obvious time investment, I'm sure you'll be fine! This user doesn't even upload an icon.
(no subject) - bazeelphooka - Dec. 15th, 2012 09:18 pm (UTC) - Expand
(no subject) - celestinaketzia - Dec. 15th, 2012 09:21 pm (UTC) - Expand
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skanrashke
Dec. 15th, 2012 09:20 pm (UTC)
I assume this won't affect established business dealings on FA? Figured I'd ask just in case some kind of wacky investigation would impeded it for prof artists.
bazeelphooka
Dec. 15th, 2012 09:23 pm (UTC)
This should not have any affect on 99% of the userbase. It is mostly a concern for those purchasing art, rather than those who deal in it.
growly
Dec. 15th, 2012 09:25 pm (UTC)
I am very glad to see an official warning about this person. It's very alarming how persistent they are.
foxhack
Dec. 15th, 2012 09:26 pm (UTC)
Everyone who gets scammed should report the account to PayPal itself.

Eventually the reports will pile up. Especially now that PayPal requires US citizens to provide their social security number to create or use an account with them. It'll make it easier for them to track down the scammer(s) if they live in the US.

Edited at 2012-12-15 09:27 pm (UTC)
bazeelphooka
Dec. 15th, 2012 09:30 pm (UTC)
The best thing to do is to not 'send gift' payments when people request them. You cannot counter that claim.
(no subject) - ladysnakebite - Dec. 15th, 2012 09:33 pm (UTC) - Expand
(no subject) - foxhack - Dec. 15th, 2012 09:57 pm (UTC) - Expand
(no subject) - lazer_the_hyena - Dec. 15th, 2012 11:25 pm (UTC) - Expand
thistlewolf
Dec. 15th, 2012 09:45 pm (UTC)
I saw the ImInVain account spamming the hell out of the front page with supposed YCH auctions. Glad to see they were shut down, but bummed that the rabbit hole goes even deeper.

Thanks for the beware!
bazeelphooka
Dec. 15th, 2012 10:10 pm (UTC)
Of course. We are doing everything we can on our end, but since these are being made from different IPs, and by actual people, it is very difficult to ID them before they begin their scamming practice.
(no subject) - pinstripedtiger - Dec. 16th, 2012 06:48 am (UTC) - Expand
radcatastrophe
Dec. 16th, 2012 03:53 am (UTC)
I've seen a lot of journals about this pop up throughout the late year about these accounts, glad to see there's more of an "official" addressing to it from an admin/mod of FA.

I'll keep an eye out for anymore of these journals, and hope that the artists are being contacted once found.
lackoflollies
Dec. 16th, 2012 12:26 pm (UTC)
Oh jesus. :/
citrushark
Dec. 16th, 2012 12:43 pm (UTC)
Haven't seen it myself, but must be a pretty big issue if this got an official announcement on FA, hopefully people will be more wary about these accounts.
bazeelphooka
Dec. 16th, 2012 06:52 pm (UTC)
I pushed through both announcements at roughly the same time- Dragoneer wasn't at his home computer, so he wasn't able to approve the one on Fur Affinity until later in the evening.
minkamuffin
Dec. 16th, 2012 02:20 pm (UTC)
almost scammed
I made an AB post of my own, but apparently the Internets may have lost it.

I was almost scammed by ImInVain. I made a bid on a reference sheet, but luckily I was warned by note to not give money. Having this person's Paypal shut down would be ideal, I think.
oceandezignz
Dec. 16th, 2012 05:03 pm (UTC)
Re: almost scammed
Actually if you check your inbox (and possibly the spam box) again, there should be a notice from LJ regarding it.
ansitru
Dec. 16th, 2012 02:43 pm (UTC)
What I don't understand is why so many people are willing to buy from an account that is brand-new and has zero credibility yet.

I mean, a new artist making an account is one thing, but someone making a new account to spam a lot of things for sale right away will always seem a bit fishy to me. o_O
ryunwoofie
Dec. 16th, 2012 03:44 pm (UTC)
The main problem, I think, is people not taking the time to sit down and look around themselves. (A common problem on FA to begin with.) They see nice art and an affordable price and want to scoop it up as quick as possible before anyone else does thinking they nailed a sweet deal.

It truly is unfortunate.
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(no subject) - bazeelphooka - Dec. 16th, 2012 06:53 pm (UTC) - Expand
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thaily
Dec. 16th, 2012 04:52 pm (UTC)
I witnessed this scammer on his ImInVain and Klinx accounts and have some screenshots. He seems to be trying to resell the same YCH sketches on various accounts, so if you see it coming by you can be fairly sure it's the scammer.

On ImInVain he stole from the artist Neurodyne.
ImInVain screenshot 1 [NSFW]
ImInVain screenshot 2 [NSFW]
ImInVain screenshot 3 [NSFW]
YCH auction.

On Klinx he stole from the artist Kabuki Homewood.

Klinx screenshot 1 [NSFW]
Klinx screenshot 2 [NSFW]
Klinx screenshot 3 [NSFW]
Klinx screenshot 4 [NSFW]
YCH auction.

Please note that the bidders in these screenshots have already been contacted.

Maybe if we could get this guy's paypal address (or addresses if he has multiple) it would be easier to warn people.
thaily
Dec. 16th, 2012 04:54 pm (UTC)
Oops, Klinx screenshot 4 is actually SFW, oh well :3
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puritikoneko
Dec. 16th, 2012 08:43 pm (UTC)
Ugh, gross.

I've had at least one person with a fresh account watch me, and I've been extremely leery of them since I myself make and sell adoptables from time-to-time.

Thanks for the head's up, I'll make sure to keep a close eye on them and my eyes peeled for any mass-uploads or other suspicious behavior.
(no subject) - foxwolf321 - Dec. 17th, 2012 04:40 pm (UTC) - Expand
thaily
Dec. 17th, 2012 04:48 pm (UTC)
Thanks for sharing, I hope you can get your money back?
(no subject) - foxwolf321 - Dec. 17th, 2012 04:50 pm (UTC) - Expand
(no subject) - thaily - Dec. 17th, 2012 05:59 pm (UTC) - Expand
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(no subject) - dragontripmon - Dec. 19th, 2012 08:55 pm (UTC) - Expand
marblestheskunk
Dec. 17th, 2012 06:59 pm (UTC)
Thanks so much for letting us know!

Not sure why so many adoptable scams are going on right now!

I recently have had an issue where I bought and adopt and the artist pretty much changed the hair style and nipple color and sold it to someone else, even though they were supposed to be custom. Then blocked me when I brought it up to them. Not AS bad, but I know how annoying that can be :/

I hope no one else gets scammed by these people though and I'll keep a watch out!

dragontripmon
Dec. 17th, 2012 09:27 pm (UTC)
I'm really not surprised this is happening considering most adoptables i've been seeing on DA are either traces bases or generics.
excessdenied0
Dec. 18th, 2012 06:10 pm (UTC)
Yeah, it's part of why I hesitated for so long to offer "recoloured" adopts of my own. Even if it is my own design, it feels a bit odd to reuse the same lines so many times. People do seem to prefer them though, and it's about the only way I can afford to offer designs at low prices.
I'm hoping no one steals any of mine to resell, because I suspect it wouldn't be too difficult to do, even if they did only steal a downsized preview image.
The whole thing makes me nervous.
(no subject) - spartanwerewolf - Dec. 19th, 2012 08:11 am (UTC) - Expand
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