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About a month or so ago, I was commissioned by a friend for a sketch. They paid, I drew it, they loved it and end of story. A few weeks later, he dropped me a note telling me about an artist who was taking color commissions. I thought he was asking me if he could have it colored. I wasn't comfortable with that and told him that, but if money didn't exchange hands, he could. He didn't reply. A few days later, I saw that he did pay this other artist to color my work. I asked him about it but he claimed it shouldn't matter as he had done the same with other artists and they "loved what he had done."

I attempted to post a beware but something happened with the code and LJ and it was rejected. I have to admit, I was somewhat relieved as I considered him a friend and thought maybe I acted too rashly. So, it was rejected and I left it alone.

However, it's been brought to my attention that the artist he had commissioned to color it, has made a point on her page to call me out and not to commission me as I am "jealous and not a pro." I have not had any contact with this artist at all.

My question is should I post a beware on both of these people? I'm just torn on it.

Thanks.

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zackfig
Dec. 3rd, 2012 01:03 am (UTC)
Taking money to color other people's work is a big no-no.

So a beware is most likely warranted on the artist that is coloring other people's work.

Edited at 2012-12-03 01:04 am (UTC)
eveshka
Dec. 3rd, 2012 01:05 am (UTC)
Unless the person who commissioned it from the OP told the artist who colored it that they had permission. In that case, shame on the coloring artist for not verifying that, but double shame on the commissioner who had been told no and did it anyway.
(no subject) - kaelstra - Dec. 3rd, 2012 01:05 am (UTC) - Expand
starcharmer
Dec. 3rd, 2012 01:06 am (UTC)
I would love to see a beware on them, personally.
jakejynx
Dec. 3rd, 2012 01:15 am (UTC)
I don't suppose it was furaffinity that the artist posted the call-out on their page? Because you can't do that on FA. That said, yes, I think a beware is warranted.
crazeetyger
Dec. 3rd, 2012 07:33 am (UTC)
It was deviantART. I have contacted the help desk, but these days, dA takes longer than FA to get things sorted.
mysterymoose
Dec. 3rd, 2012 01:35 am (UTC)
I have to agree with the rest on who BOTH of these people are.
poizenkat
Dec. 3rd, 2012 01:37 am (UTC)
I would love to know who they are so that I may block/avoid them.
snowyedges
Dec. 3rd, 2012 01:40 am (UTC)
I would post a beware on the artist your friend hired to color your piece at the very least, especially since he's being rude and trying to taint your image.
Maybe post a beware on the commissioner, too, but I think what he did is kind of the lesser of two evils even though it ... led to all of this.
zrcalo
Dec. 3rd, 2012 01:47 am (UTC)
As a person who has coloured paid-for lineart, I always ask the commissioner if they have the original artists' permission. BUT! Looking back on it after reading this beware, I took the commissioner's word on it. None of the pieces I've done were by famous artists so I didnt recognize the work at all. If the commissioner said "I drew it" or "I have permission from the original artist" I typically take it at their word.. Heck even if I would have asked for a verification from the original artist, even that could be faked.

But blatantly taking money to colour something that the original artist TOLD me no? I wouldnt ever do it. So I have to question whether the colouring artist even /knew/ that the original artist didnt want it done. It could all be the commissioner's fault.
cyiakanami
Dec. 3rd, 2012 01:54 am (UTC)
I think what the OP stated was his friend got lineart from him. Friend round about asked about having it colored in by someone else. OP said no, they don't feel comfortable with that.

Friend took paid lineart and got it colored by another artist anyways.
OP is mad friend did this. And comes to find out the colorist is also now calling OP out as a bad artist and not being "pro" because OP didn't want the lineart to be colored for money in the first place.

"Insert drama fest"

And to the OP, I would state a beware on both of them. Your "friend" was wrong by going against your legal wishes.
And the colorist was even more wrong by not asking you for permission, and on top of it, making a drama starting call out journal for no reason.

I'd personally like to block both of them
(no subject) - kaelstra - Dec. 3rd, 2012 03:13 am (UTC) - Expand
(no subject) - cyiakanami - Dec. 3rd, 2012 04:09 am (UTC) - Expand
venatorrooc
Dec. 3rd, 2012 02:01 am (UTC)
I'd like to see a beware on both people too.
copper_curls
Dec. 3rd, 2012 02:37 am (UTC)
Yes, please submit a beware on both of them, although I think it would have to be two separate bewares, for different issues. Could a comm mod speak to this?
tartii
Dec. 3rd, 2012 02:41 am (UTC)
Agreed, I would like to see a beware and a name to these people so I may avoid them. I do not want to work for somebody who will use the artwork against my own say.
(no subject) - fenris_lorsrai - Dec. 3rd, 2012 02:43 am (UTC) - Expand
crazeetyger
Dec. 3rd, 2012 07:38 am (UTC)
It was a digital sketch so no actual hard copies. I wouldn't have cared had he colored it himself.
(no subject) - fenris_lorsrai - Dec. 3rd, 2012 05:27 pm (UTC) - Expand
mreviver
Dec. 3rd, 2012 04:49 am (UTC)
I agree, post a beware on both of them. The way I see it, basically another artist has made money from your artwork and without your knowledge or consent, and they've got the nerve to call YOU unprofessional??
crazeetyger
Dec. 3rd, 2012 07:41 am (UTC)
With the advice from you all, I'm going to go ahead with my beware on the two of them. Mods, Should I post separate bewares or one, since it's the same situation?
shukivengeance
Dec. 3rd, 2012 06:27 pm (UTC)
One post should be fine.
thaily
Dec. 3rd, 2012 01:33 pm (UTC)
Yes.
God yes.

First he decides not to respect your wishes (some "friend") and then this other "artist" throws it in your face. I'd love to know who they are so I can avoid both.
goatparty
Dec. 3rd, 2012 02:16 pm (UTC)
If I were in your shoes, I'd write up a beware on them. Especially the artist who colored the work, the comments were really catty and unprofessional. :/
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