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Miranda aka Mirandaleigh

WHO: Mirandaleigh, Mirachan, Miranda



WHERE: http://smokingpen.com/ http://mirandaleigh.deviantart.com/ https://www.furaffinity.net/user/mirandaleigh/

WHAT: Five quick ink sketches in return for a papo allosaurus from her amazon wishlist


WHEN: First made the arrangement in March 2010, asked for an update via FA notes in December 2011, and by email on October 2012 as well as in a journal on her FA page.

PROOF: https://dl.dropbox.com/u/50799487/stuff/MirandaLeigh/Mirachanemailcap01.png
https://dl.dropbox.com/u/50799487/stuff/MirandaLeigh/MirandaLeighSS2.png

EXPLAIN: Okay, in 2010 she made a journal offering five sketches in return for objects from her wishlist.  I purchased one and sat in to wait.  For the past two and a half years I've contacted her...three times I think asking for updates and received nothing until I asked on a recent journal here: 
https://dl.dropbox.com/u/50799487/stuff/MirandaLeigh/MirandaLeighSS1.png and here: https://dl.dropbox.com/u/50799487/stuff/MirandaLeigh/MirandaLeighSS3.png
And continuing in the journal itself: https://www.furaffinity.net/journal/3908827/ Dunno if AgentKira is just a sockpuppet or what, but I blocked them because....it just ain't worth a flamewar.

It's only twenty bucks, I'd accept a refund gladly. It's just..the principle of the thing. Being patient, getting no response, then..just...how she handled it when I asked in public.  Anyhow, if I left anything out, I'll edit in more screencaps.

UPDATE: Received email from Miranda : https://dl.dropbox.com/u/50799487/stuff/MirandaLeigh/MirandaLeighEmailCap01.png I do not know how I should proceed.


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neolucky
Oct. 17th, 2012 07:09 pm (UTC)
I visibly grimaced at her interaction with you. This is incredibly bad business ethic on her part, and frankly I was waiting for her to show up here due to that as I have seen her act this way on more then one occasion. Super not cool of her to say what she did to you. It really shows how poorly she treats her customers.

If you have been waiting this long, then I wonder how many other customers have been?

I certainly will never engage in any sort of transaction or business with her. This sort of information spreads a long way, and she should know by now that her behavior is incredibly unprofessional and will gain her nothing but dislike from her peers.
leahtaur
Oct. 17th, 2012 07:21 pm (UTC)
It is incredibly poor taste for her to bring up her deceased father as the reason she can't do your commission, and why you are soooooo mean to bring it up. Deceased family are not get out of jail free cards to excuse years long waits -- even if he was chronically ill for that entire period and needed her care, it does not seem to have prevented her from taking on dozens (hundreds?) of commissions, plus her paysite work.

I cannot tell anyone how to feel or how to grieve, that is not my place, but I think your wait has very little to do with her father and much more to do with not caring about you as a customer. I can't even pretend this is a more innocent "bit off more than she could chew" situation. Her complete lack of contact or public list of who is waiting says to me that she is purposely taking on more than she could ever complete in a calculated way because she does not care about her customers.
neolucky
Oct. 17th, 2012 07:34 pm (UTC)
What bothers me is how tasteless she uses her fathers death in her commissions and pleas for money. Often had I seen her use porn to pay for her fathers "funeral charges". I just could not put a deceased parent in the same breath as "pls buy my smut!".

It just makes me uncomfortable that anyone could openly use a deceased loved one in such a way. Thats personal information that does NOT need to be known or put on a furry porn site.
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leahtaur
Oct. 17th, 2012 07:24 pm (UTC)
Just noticed this in her profile, too: "I am insanely busy, but I try to make time for everyone, every email, every instant message. =3 "

How ironic. :P
shukivengeance
Oct. 17th, 2012 08:02 pm (UTC)
Absolutely nothing justifies making you wait this long without any communication and treating you so horribly. Would never do business with her.
col_eviscerator
Oct. 17th, 2012 08:25 pm (UTC)
Yeah, I know her father is dead and all that, but, if you'll read the..uhmn..journal she posted originally?

https://www.furaffinity.net/journal/1289351/

Specifically this bit here: "After I receive the item, I will start on your sequence."

She was supposed to have started on this before any of these issues with her immediate family popped up. I understand the emotional burden of someone passing, my uncle died this year after lingering in ICU. Been there, done that.

I just wanted to know, since she was taking more commissions, how much longer I had to go, or at least where I was in queue.
batcookies
Oct. 17th, 2012 08:29 pm (UTC)
Were you the one that had to pay for all the final arangements? Did you have family to help you through everything?
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mekania
Oct. 17th, 2012 08:32 pm (UTC)
"Id love to refund you just to get you out and away, but thats not how life works."

That is exactly how life works. If you can't get the art done/are claiming that you want to do things to spite the commissioner (even if you won't actually do that) then yeah it's absolutely time to refund.

That commission journal is so sketchy! I could never knowingly get into an agreement where I have to pay upfront and I won't get anything for a MINIMUM of 6 months with no way to cancel.
col_eviscerator
Oct. 17th, 2012 08:41 pm (UTC)
I know...half those sketches were going to be gifts for people I've lost contact with. I'd honestly prefer the refund.
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dragontripmon
Oct. 17th, 2012 08:44 pm (UTC)
Is it me or some of the comments from the artist feel rather passive agressive to me at how she treated the OP.

And i am already seeing signs that this will probably not end well from the journal you've linked OP.
teacup_werewolf
Oct. 17th, 2012 08:49 pm (UTC)
If she can't do the art, she should have refund. This behavior is unprofessional.
lackoflollies
Oct. 17th, 2012 08:53 pm (UTC)
I saw this mess happen on her journal, and quite frankly i'm disgusted.
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celestinaketzia
Oct. 17th, 2012 09:30 pm (UTC)
No. That's not how you handle business. This kind of behavior is why good artists lose good customers. The OP has been more than patient, and the artist needs to refund them or do the art. That is how life works. That's how business works.
kayla_na
Oct. 17th, 2012 09:43 pm (UTC)
Thought folks might be interested in this Courtesy of a member of lulz that took screencaps.

http://imageshack.us/a/img846/9546/6thfromthetop.png
http://imageshack.us/a/img267/6233/truthhurts.png
http://imageshack.us/a/img802/9475/livestreamm.png
http://imageshack.us/a/img843/2074/dinoforart.png


I was trying to talk to her without the venom about Evisc's dilemma. Unfortunately, I got nowhere. Also before I realized that Evisc made an A_B post about her (Sorry, I did not know, I wasn't actively seeking her out to harass her.

Edited at 2012-10-17 09:44 pm (UTC)
col_eviscerator
Oct. 17th, 2012 09:49 pm (UTC)
Eh, twenty dollar dino including shipping, and it was fifty dollars of art at the time. 60% off, true...

but her journal DID say she'd start on the commission as soon as she received the item. It's also been so long that all but one of the people who were to receive the art are gone.

I just don't get why she would rather do '100 dollars' worth of art instead of refunding me -only- the cost of the dino, 15 bucks for a 20 dollar figure seemed reasonable to me.
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thedarrdarr
Oct. 17th, 2012 09:51 pm (UTC)
Not someone I'd want to do business with... Also, on the journal that was linked, aren't those terms not legal anyway for the commissions they opened? The whole 'no refunds' thing? I could be totally inaccurate but it doesn't seem like something that would fly.
col_eviscerator
Oct. 17th, 2012 09:52 pm (UTC)
You can't really enforce it. Paypal can freeze payment, and quite likely her account if it finds out she's accepting money for porn.
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kayla_la
Oct. 17th, 2012 10:40 pm (UTC)
Tone it down a little, okay?
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aerospiritual
Oct. 17th, 2012 11:02 pm (UTC)
@Mods if this seems too instigatory, I definitely understand why it would be screened, but MirandaLeigh posted this response to Lulz.net:

"You guys act like I just sat on commissions for two years, nice. I've completed over 70 in that time, and haven't done any before him unless they actually had a commission before him.

As for those of you trying to stir up trouble and just generally fuck with shit, it's frustrating and also sad.

Yes, I could make considerably more doing commissions, but most of my fans prefer my 1 - 5$ shop sequences and comics, versus having a bidding war for auctioned art or commission prices that are comparable with others (Such as Kayla, Fossil, etc).

So I try to balance things.

If you don't like how I do things, that's fine. Don't commission me.

I've let people know constantly where I am, status wise, with my commissions.

Considering I have less then 20 commissions at this point in time, I've done considerable work. I've taken over a thousand commissions in less than 8 years, and every single one of them had the same effort put behind it.

Anyway, I'm done discussing this. I will continue to finish my commissions and update my shop, update my paysite, work and go to school full time.

The only thing you all prove, is that people love to jump on an uninformed hate bandwagon on the internet. Also, that most people I've come across are inherently wonderful and caring people."
col_eviscerator
Oct. 17th, 2012 11:04 pm (UTC)
And yet..she never once told me where I was in queue. So much for constantly letting people know where they are at.
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