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WHO: synxirazu-niam @ FA

WHERE: http://www.furaffinity.net/user/synxirazu-niam

WHAT: Was a group picture but i paid for my slot.

WHEN: Was paid on Jun 30th, 2011 since then I've sent several notes to know the status of the picture. Some of them were replied others not.

PROOF: Ahead! Attached pictures of the notes.



So, the Jun 30th, 2011, 08:06 PM I paid to synxirazu-niam paid 18 USD for a picture never done.



His mainly excuses were that he needed more people to join since it was an harem picture but he had like 5 persons already, that was a big picture and that was moving.

I sent him a note on Nov 19th, 2011, 12:09 AM, the same thin that he needed more people and confirmation form other. So i waited much more.



On Feb 24th, 2012, 06:23 PM again i sent him a note, told me that the picture will not be done but he will do a picture for me in "refund". We were agree and i sent him then the description and everything he needed.



The Jul 8th, 2012, 02:23 PM I sent him another note, asking if he had news, he said that was working on it...



Since then no more news and he emptied all his gallery but still uses his account. Tired of all these shit i left a shout on his front page requesting my money back, that was three days ago, no reply, no money back, instead of that he deleted my shout.

At this point I don't care about the art, I don't want to deal with him anymore, I just want my money back that for me its a lot.

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kayla_la
Oct. 15th, 2012 12:29 am (UTC)
Hi! This post isn't too long, but would you consider putting it under an Lj-cut due to all the images?
seinkraft
Oct. 15th, 2012 01:19 am (UTC)
Done! And added more info using the template :)
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teekchan
Oct. 15th, 2012 01:27 am (UTC)
His account seems to be dead, but he has fave activity. it even says so up at the top in the artists profile name section. maybe he switched accounts?

Although the last fave is two days ago.
seinkraft
Oct. 15th, 2012 07:11 pm (UTC)
Nope, he didnt switched accounts.

He usually ignored my notes when i asked about the status of my commission.

Also he cleaned his account two months ago but continues using it like you see.
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bayru
Oct. 15th, 2012 03:27 am (UTC)
I would agree 100% on the language and how it is used with commissions. I had one blow up on me because we had both gotten so frustrated with each other and it was just ugly.

But that really does flipping suck. I'll try to keep my ears open in case I find out about where they are.
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vixdraw
Oct. 15th, 2012 11:18 am (UTC)
Can commiserate
Yet another example of why one shouldn't even consider doing business of this nature online (art commissions). I've long since given up on the individual who shall remain nameless. They've evidently fallen off the face of the earth.
spartanwerewolf
Oct. 15th, 2012 11:34 am (UTC)
Re: Can commiserate
Um, it sucks that you seem to have gotten screwed over, but that doesn't mean the entire online art community is a bad idea.
Re: Can commiserate - ryunwoofie - Oct. 15th, 2012 05:39 pm (UTC) - Expand
Re: Can commiserate - celestinaketzia - Oct. 15th, 2012 06:20 pm (UTC) - Expand
Re: Can commiserate - neolucky - Oct. 15th, 2012 07:11 pm (UTC) - Expand
Re: Can commiserate - thedarrdarr - Oct. 17th, 2012 01:02 am (UTC) - Expand
spartanwerewolf
Oct. 15th, 2012 11:36 am (UTC)
While yes, it sucks to wait a year with no updates, professionalism goes both ways. If I had gotten your So?! note, I would have blacklisted you then and there.
kadaria
Oct. 15th, 2012 11:54 am (UTC)
Without refunding the person or sending them the work that was paid for? All over tone?
While I agree that you catch more flies with honey than with vinegar, I think that as people in a customer service field, it needs to be understood that if you provide crappy service (artist sends clipped I'm workin on it notes, takes money but shows no progress, cleans out gallery and stops responding ala playing dead) your customers will be rightfully upset with you. Whether they choose to express that anger to your face or a third party site like A_B or yelp depends on the individual.
If you don't like these kinds of confrontations, you can do your best to avoid them by providing over the top customer service. This would likely never have escalated if the artist had just shown WIPs or delivered the picture. I really can't be sympathetic to the artist because it's his fault that the OP is upset with him.
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ryunwoofie
Oct. 15th, 2012 05:45 pm (UTC)
I make it common practice to not work with someone who doesn't mainly speak my native language due to complications and misunderstandings. Not that, that was really the initial problem here haha!

Also as others have said it seems things have gotten a little hostile on your end, but then again it appears to be a language barrier as well for them sounding blunt and such.

Also if there is additional information missing it would be highly helpful to add it so we can understand the full picture, especially if your being polite.

Edited at 2012-10-15 05:50 pm (UTC)
seinkraft
Oct. 15th, 2012 06:43 pm (UTC)
Well not taking commissions from people that doesn't speak your native language its a bit mean I believe. Talking the things get solved.

As for the other yes, i was really pissed at that time and ran out of patience. I waited for more than a year to get something that was expected to me. I was not expecting getting notes ignored at all and that really anoys me.

Lets do a quick example. If you're an artist and do a commission without get the payment upfront and you finish it on time. You wouldn't be pissed if the commissioner doesn't pays or tell you that will pay later and after 8 months doesn't reply anymore but you knows that is alive because keeps faving artwork?

Its the same, but saw from the point of view of the artist.

I'll post the other images once arrive home because I'm at work x3.

Edited at 2012-10-15 07:07 pm (UTC)
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celestinaketzia
Oct. 15th, 2012 07:44 pm (UTC)
Oh gosh, that's super rude of them. I remember doing a commission for you before, and you were very polite and easy to work with. I can understand you being upset with having your chain yanked around. :) I just have to agree with others that it makes you look a lot better if you can keep your cool. If it comes to the point where you're so upset that you're going to get snappy with someone you're working with, then it's time to take a step back.

Have you let the artist know you've posted them here? It would probably get them motivated to either do the art or give you a refund.
seinkraft
Oct. 15th, 2012 07:53 pm (UTC)
Yush! I remember get commissions from you :) Actually i think i got two or three.

I usually don't send notes to the commissioned artist once we agree on the picture and I pay it. I wait at least two months to get an update from them and if i don't know anything from their side then i send a note asking if something happened.

I sent a note about this yesterday, he saw the note but still nothing back.
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timelapsedecay
Oct. 15th, 2012 10:20 pm (UTC)
I was born and raised in America, so English is my first language, but from what I understand, English is a DAMN hard language to learn if it's not your first. I have always tried to consider this when I speak to clients who's first language isn't one we share. So while I see how the others reacted to "So?!", I wasn't immediately thrown off.
Different strokes for different folks!

Edit to add that I agree with most are saying about the artist though. They definitely owe a refund.

Edited at 2012-10-15 10:28 pm (UTC)
vauvakolibri
Oct. 16th, 2012 06:29 pm (UTC)
I've heard that "English is a DAMN hard language to learn if it's not your first" thing said before, but I gotta ask here, what's the basis for saying this? Not trying to attack you or call you out, I'm just curious because to me English is kinda like... "Hulk speak" because it seems to lack 60% of the specific conjugations and whatnots that other (European) languages tend to have and most first world people are bombarded with English from an early age which generally lowers the effort needed to learn it.
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