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Bigdog2010

WHO: bigdog2010

WHERE: http://www.furaffinity.net/user/bigdog2010

WHAT: I made bigdog2010 a "transformation" picture (taking his normal human picture and changing his eyes, nose and ears into that of a wolfs), took me 3  hours to make, he posted payment before I started to work on it, he continued to email me about the picture so since the payment was suppose to be on the way I posted the picture. He then turned around and CANCELLED the payment a couple days later!

WHEN: August 5

PROOF: http://i49.tinypic.com/k3517q.png http://i46.tinypic.com/2hebjac.png

EXPLAIN: Mr.Bigdog contacted me asking for me to do the commission, he asked me about how much I ask for each option, he continued to ask about if I could do the eyes, ears and nose and we both settled on the agreement of $20 for all of the options, he posted payment and I began work. As you can see I told him I was waiting til payment was posted before I began work, he posted payment and basically demanded me to begin working. I began working on it and he kept asking about the picture and how long it would take. It took me three hours to make the said picture. He kept asking about it and I posted it. He said he liked it and began to ask me about a future commission of him being a lion. He agreed to contact me about it once he got more money. That was the end of it. I went today to see if payment was cleared out and it was CANCELLED.
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neolucky
Aug. 16th, 2012 09:49 pm (UTC)
Definitely beware noted! This is a terrible circumstance =| It feels like the client was purposefully trying to get work out of you for free, and had full intent to charge you back.
dragontripmon
Aug. 16th, 2012 10:43 pm (UTC)
Actually that behavior i am not surprised considering i've done a picture for him on my livestream before as a free request. http://www.furaffinity.net/view/8263337/ Though i have noticed him to be a bit demanding considering the requests are based off an art challenge journal. http://www.furaffinity.net/journal/844515/
syrusb
Aug. 16th, 2012 10:46 pm (UTC)
Wow, classy.

I hope you can open a dispute about this.
ansitru
Aug. 16th, 2012 10:49 pm (UTC)
As if the pushy and demanding behavior wasn't beware-worthy enough, the charge-back seals the deal for me.
I'll definitely be avoiding working for this person.
espilonarge
Aug. 16th, 2012 11:32 pm (UTC)
... no surprise here.

Andrew Rinaldi.

Go figure.

His been at this for years now.

Tried to get his current account banned some time ago because he was already ban-evading in the first place after an admin had already banned his other "four" accounts (they already knew at the time what he was doing). Tried to warn users not to do things for him without realizing what they were getting in to (especially his habit of "harassing" artists on a regular basis after you've said "no" a dozen or more times). His been permantly banned from deviantART for harassment and ban-evasion but he simply refuses to get the clue his not welcome in the transformation community after just how many transformation artists his gone after and harassed, including myself.

Simply put, he will "demand" you to do a picture for him and even if you say no, or if you've already become a victim of his previous demands, he'll continue to harass you afterwards and placing him on ignore (social chat services, email addresses, etc), he'll simply create a new account to bypass your blocks.

But now that his actually commited to doing fraud, that's the newest low his ever sunk to (you can't just simply "cancel" a PayPal payment "by mistake").

While he hasn't messeged me in quite some time, he knows full well I know of his actions and will not tolerate it. He can't hide forever under new alias, I already know his tactics and "broken English" is an absolute excuse and insult to thinking I'm stupid.

Edited at 2012-08-16 11:33 pm (UTC)
aerospiritual
Aug. 16th, 2012 11:37 pm (UTC)
I was just going to say that everything about this post just oozed of Andrew Rinaldi to me.

He's really someone that every artist should just stay away from.
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dragontripmon
Aug. 16th, 2012 11:52 pm (UTC)
Actually i just realized something i type that name up on google and this came up on the first page searches.
http://en.wikifur.com/wiki/Wereandrewtiger

Though i do wish i knew about this earlier considering i had a similair issues back in february but it was a different person.

Actually there's a beware before about this person as well.
http://artists-beware.livejournal.com/214614.html

So it's safe to say they're both the same person.

Edited at 2012-08-17 12:21 am (UTC)
syrusb
Aug. 17th, 2012 02:14 am (UTC)
wereandrewtiger, that's a name I recognize. :x
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kohaku_chimaera
Aug. 17th, 2012 12:43 am (UTC)
Oh my gosh, is this seriously Wolfy? He's still doing this kind of stuff?? I can't believe some people! D:
blot
Aug. 17th, 2012 02:16 am (UTC)
Oh wow this guy.
He is like. A legend.
aerospiritual
Aug. 17th, 2012 02:40 am (UTC)
I'm really, really sorry to hear that you've been burned by this guy.

I don't even draw TF art, just regular furry stuff, and this guy hounded me for a good couple years before just giving up. I'd almost thought he'd given up on this stuff after not hearing of him for awhile, then in December he re-appeared, requesting free art from a friend along with sending unrequested pictures of himself[one of which was nude].

Mods, I really, really recommend that "wereandrewtiger" be added to the tags; this guy is someone that no artist should ever deal with. Not only will he incessantly message people and harass them, but it's obvious that he's now stooped to scamming in order to get his art fix.

Huge, huge beware for any dealings with this guy.
neolucky
Aug. 17th, 2012 03:27 am (UTC)
Done and done. I've heard of this fellow, and had dealings with him myself. I'm not at all surprised he's still at it.
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trunchbull
Aug. 17th, 2012 02:55 pm (UTC)
I havent read the comments yet, i've skimmed through the post though, and would like to let you know some things when dealing with this person.

I've gotten two commissions out of him, both times he managed to pay. I am not sure why he canceled the commission. He always waited until after payment went through before repeatedly contacting me.
If he asked you to start making picture before the payment, you should have said "you'll have to wait until payment goes through". I know, this comment will have alot of 'should have done this'.

i sort of learned how to communicate with him, since english is not his first language. i learned that you have to give him short, easy to translate/understand sentences like "ok" or "it will be done soon" or stuff like that.

he's not an overall bad guy, as he had been in the past. He will ask multiple times when it will be done or how it looks, or sometimes just nonsensical stuff i don't really understand. The most important part though when dealing with him is to never ignore a message from him. always respond, or he'll probably end up thinking that you're ignoring him and stuff like this will happen. ):

I've only had good experiences with him, but from the things i've read from people in the past, he was not a good customer. I have a sense to believe that hes changed, but it still takes a bit to be able to be on his level of communication.

It's either talking to him so he can understand, or not going through all the extra work to work with him. I've been having him as a repeat customer though :p

Edited at 2012-08-17 03:00 pm (UTC)
kayla_la
Aug. 17th, 2012 03:56 pm (UTC)
I don't understand. He's not a bad guy, but he intentionally canceled payment for work he received? How is this a communication issue?
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ryunwoofie
Aug. 17th, 2012 04:21 pm (UTC)
Oh gosh, this guy? Geez. He's contacted me before through my AIM, and it was my private account. I have no idea how he got it. I can't believe he's still doing this.
puritikoneko
Aug. 19th, 2012 05:13 pm (UTC)
That's really, really creepy.
lackoflollies
Aug. 17th, 2012 09:51 pm (UTC)
People these days.
slinky_ferret
Aug. 17th, 2012 11:58 pm (UTC)
Oh dear lord, Andrew Rinaldi is still doing it??? I had run ins with him nearly 10 years ago, in 2003.... For 8 months in 2003 he kept IMing me via Yahoo IM with his "Hi, its me Andrew. You draw me?"/"Hi its Andrew. Is pic done?" messages despite me telling him I am not a artist.

I stopped responding to his messages after telling him over 30 times over the two month period that I am not a artist and could never do art for him, and he continued to IM me for a further 6 months after that before giving up.

I'm sorry to hear the OP got scammed by this guy, it was bad enough when he was harrassing artists for free art....
espilonarge
Aug. 19th, 2012 08:01 pm (UTC)
I've decided to take part of the matter in to my own hands as I am one of the "many" victims that has been plagued by Andrew Rinaldi's past actions. After trying to warn users on a number of websites for the past several years, my warnings have mostly fallen on deaf ears, especially now that I know his purposely blocking me on Furaffinity from leaving any warning on his page to not do artwork for him of any kind (free or otherwise). He knows its more then just a grudge I hold against him personally, I know what he does and he has to be stopped.

His now been reported to the Furaffinity admin a third time.

The first report, he was not only banned from Furaffinity as they knew about his previous actions on a number of other websites, but three other accounts he made that I didn't know about were also banned.

The second report, I found his "new" account and warned the admin to immediatly ban him before he causes trouble again. The admin who dealt with my ticket had no "prior information" on his previous bans, and has allowed him to continue to mock the transformation community. I mostly just tried to move on because I was getting tired of dealing with him personally, and nothing I've done has stopped him (at least for a time it did, but he keeps finding new ways to insult the transformation community).

I've submitted the third report to immediatly ban him for harassment, ban-evasion and now committing to fraud (you can't just simply cancel a PayPal payment "accidently" and get away with it). There are no excuses anymore as to why the admin will refuse to ban him, the simple fact that he will keep targetting users for free handouts and then constantly demand/harass them is getting out of hand.

No more second chances, no more excuses. His been warned to stop for years. It needs to end, right here and now.

The admin can't just sit back and keep letting him brandish his demands over people how he seems-fit to do, especially after how many people have been victimized by his appauling speech impedement (and now I'm starting to wonder if he even has an impedement to begin with considering the simple fact his able to navigate a website like Furaffinity and knows how to block people or commit to fraud on PayPal).
espilonarge
Aug. 19th, 2012 09:48 pm (UTC)
A followup to the situation regarding Andrew Rinaldi. There's a lot going on at the moment, including the fact his just recently posted a journal threatening to "call the police" because people are posting websites on his front page (namely the "warnings" about his actions and to tell users to not do artwork for him).

https://www.furaffinity.net/journal/3767675/ <- Another artist who fell victim to recent fraud regarding him.
https://www.furaffinity.net/journal/3770056/ <- Topic with a handful of other situations, including one that predates back to when I had warned users on deviantART to avoid him.

http://img819.imageshack.us/img819/6326/andrewrinaldi.jpg <- Screencap of him threatening FA users.
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oceandezignz
Aug. 19th, 2012 11:09 pm (UTC)
While I don't want to, knowing his past and the like, we can't have his FB visible in AB.
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