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List of Shady Artists and Commisioners

The last entry got me thinking and I think it would be a good idea to make a list of shady artists and commissioners who have been posted on this community. I think links to the various issues in which they are mentioned would be a good idea too. This could be quite a time consuming undertaking, so I am by no means volenteering for the project (I go back to University and start my 2 part time jobs tomorrow) but it is something I think would be useful to the community. If the list was displayed on the community info, I think it would help save a lot of folks from getting robbed from shady artists or commisioners.
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filthy_animal
Jan. 16th, 2006 08:34 pm (UTC)
I agree.

And along with their names, a link to every post they're mentioned in.
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grygon
Jan. 16th, 2006 11:32 pm (UTC)
that's what i was gonna suggest. there's a filter thing in memories and a folder/filter for "Bad Commissioners/Artists" could be made. then a list of name folders for all mentioned. then inside those, every post ever made about them.
emlan
Jan. 16th, 2006 08:46 pm (UTC)
It would be kinda unfair to commisioners who's done 1 bad job becsouse of various reasons or misunderstandings, some might also have shapen up since they got reported.
ultraviolet
Jan. 16th, 2006 09:08 pm (UTC)
I dunno , maybe a whole '3 strikes' sort of idea could be done? That they only get put on the list if they are in these situations X amount of times.
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mazz
Jan. 16th, 2006 08:49 pm (UTC)
i say making a list of someone whos been mentioned more than onse. A repeat offender per say.

Though... someone would actually have to make and maintain it.

Ok someone with no life volunteer
(sadly i noticed the majority of members of this community are bust little bees)
mazz
Jan. 16th, 2006 08:49 pm (UTC)
*busy
ilea
Jan. 16th, 2006 08:49 pm (UTC)
can we make of list of irresponsible art traders too?
anjel_kitty
Jan. 17th, 2006 02:20 am (UTC)
I think that would be a little beyond the scope of what I'd want to accomplish. I want to really just list the cases where the loss of funds were involved.
thylahound
Jan. 16th, 2006 08:56 pm (UTC)
First post here, but I read everything.

I read where someone made this suggestion before and it was agreed upon that we don't want to have a blacklist because people change, as does their behavior.
sushidragon
Jan. 16th, 2006 10:15 pm (UTC)
Agreed.. speaking from my own experience ^_^;
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thaily
Jan. 16th, 2006 10:09 pm (UTC)
I don't think that'll work.

Who are we to say "This is a bad artist you should never commission" or "This is a bad customer"? That's not something you can objectively determine, some customers are pickier than others and artists have more or less patience. Sometimes there are genuine problems with payment or shipping and the other party doesn't give it enough time.

Plus I doubt you'll reach a bigger crowd than the current one, and in such (nut)cases in which it's overwhelmingly obvious someone is a bad customer (Canis Claxis) or artist (Brian O' Connell) the story will get around.

So, I think it's a bad idea.
Lots of drama over something that doesn't add anything.
anjel_kitty
Jan. 17th, 2006 02:18 am (UTC)
what about modifying it to include artists or commisioners who have cheated people out of <100 dollars. I think it is pertient to inform people about the risks involved with doing business with suh a person when more than 100 dollars is at stake.
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fierycatthing
Jan. 16th, 2006 10:32 pm (UTC)
I think that's pretty much what the memories are used for. And while the memories are small right now, they are growing.

In any case, making a list would be both rude and unfair to the commissioners and the buyers. It's kind of like to art-theft blacklists that were a fad a few years ago for everyone to have. It ruins a person's reputation, and it catches up with them even after they've tried so hard to change it. I rather like that the few most recent pagest of this community is the most informative on who currently does bad commissions. But I know for a fact that some of the folks on later entries have changed their ways.

~RedFeather
anjel_kitty
Jan. 17th, 2006 02:19 am (UTC)
I like the idea about repeat offenders going on it, but I know that you can't be fully objective. However I do think special attention needs to be brought to the cases where more than 100 dollars in involved, such as the case as that poor furson who got robbed for 400 for a plushie.
(no subject) - banrai - Jan. 17th, 2006 12:06 pm (UTC) - Expand
eski
Jan. 16th, 2006 10:58 pm (UTC)
I agree that this isn't as good an idea as it sounds. Who will decide who is and who isn't worthy of being on this black-list? What are the criteria? If an artist says they couldn't finish your commission becaue their house burned down, who determines what is the truth and how will you really know? It's a but unfair, use this lj community's memories feature if you want something close to what you are thinking.
anjel_kitty
Jan. 17th, 2006 02:25 am (UTC)
What about the amount of money which was lost be critria for the list, namely people who have lost < 100 dollars in a business deal?
I would want people to know the name of someone who robbed me for that much money no matter what their excuses might be.
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caishide
Jan. 16th, 2006 11:17 pm (UTC)
eh, i tried to get ahold of a simillar list in july before i headed off to anthro con, but no one seemed too enthusiastic about helping

my question is; why is it okay to post about bad business experiences with people, but it ISN'T okay to then list them? the logic seems nonexistant there
anjel_kitty
Jan. 17th, 2006 02:23 am (UTC)
Well I can see some of thier points on the matter. I mean people do change. I was thinking about modifying the idea to include a list of folks who have robbed people for over 100 dollars.
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