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Zephriam

I forgot to edit this a while back. I've modified the lineart in SAI (modified the horns, removed the wings, removed jewelry etc.) and released it as 'free by request' lineart. This is as resolved on my end as it's going to get.



WHO:
Zephriam on DeviantART.
Zephriam on FurAffinity.
And another FurAffinity account.

Zephriam on Furcadia, among many other alts. I am not sure what alts she has currently, because she's a known trader, but I know she won't part with Zephriam, and I know some alt names are listed in the thread below.

WHERE: Art trade between me and her turned commission.

WHAT: She asked for character lineart. Agreed price was $12.00. Art can be viewed [ here ]

WHEN: 2010. Image was originally submitted on my old deviantART account in August 2010.

PROOF: Screenshots of notes are provided here. I am the OP, Lau.

EXPLAIN: Originally, this started as an art trade. Then we decided she'd pay me 12 dollars paypal for the art. And then she never paid, and when I tried to contact her about it, repeatedly, she always never had the money or had some sort of crisis. While commissioning and paying other artists. I didn't want to resort to this but I see no other options. All details are explained in the thread linked in "Proof".



EDIT: Added DA/FA links.
EDIT 2: Added the new FA link as well.

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teekchan
Jul. 20th, 2012 04:00 pm (UTC)
Maybe it would be best if you listed the alt names she is under? There are quite a few of them posted in the thread.
zombieyaoi
Jul. 20th, 2012 04:06 pm (UTC)
I didn't list them because I didn't know which ones were still current beyond Zephriam and Jassica. She's really good at having an alt for a week and then selling it, it seems like.

I know she's had... Tinct, Red Paw, Reptilian, Hunger, and a few others, but I really don't know if she's sold them or not yet.
radcatastrophe
Jul. 20th, 2012 07:05 pm (UTC)
I read the whole thread x_x she is horrible, I know you've already given up but I wish and all the artists luck on getting your money back. I dunno if threatening with legal actions might help or even how to go about it but if you know or have a family lawyer of sorts even for the small amount I'd take some sort of action.

Also you didn't need to make a LJ account to post here, if you have social networks you can log in from there like I do with twitter.
cyiakanami
Jul. 21st, 2012 12:36 am (UTC)
Read the whole thing and wow. Avoiding her like the plague. I hope she never comes to FA -_- Beware well warranted.
zombieyaoi
Jul. 21st, 2012 06:55 am (UTC)
EDIT AGAIN. Oh holy Christ totally different person. Removed because they have NOTHING to do with this. The names were really close and I got confused because they've been brought up together before.


MY BAD.

Edited at 2012-07-21 07:03 am (UTC)
cyiakanami
Jul. 21st, 2012 08:15 am (UTC)
lol it's ok
zombieyaoi
Jul. 21st, 2012 07:18 pm (UTC)
cyiakanami
Jul. 22nd, 2012 08:24 am (UTC)
and blocked
tropicalblaze
Jul. 21st, 2012 02:47 am (UTC)
Read through most of it, but wow. 2 years now and she still couldn't fork over $12, but went around commissioning others? I second, Cyiakanami and hope she never comes by FA.

I'm sorry you got scammed out of your pay.
zombieyaoi
Jul. 21st, 2012 07:22 pm (UTC)
Yeah. I don't understand it either. ): I also edited the journal entry to add her FA.
copper_curls
Jul. 21st, 2012 05:17 am (UTC)
I'm with Cyiakanami and Tropicalblaze... that is a train-wreck indeed.
mistresswolf
Jul. 21st, 2012 06:07 am (UTC)
I read the whole thread. If she couldn't pay you the $12 she promised... and seems to be having so much trouble getting a hold of, why wouldn't she just do her half of the trade like you originally agreed? That would have made the most sense.

Then she goes on to commission more people? Don't commission people if you don't have any money! Jeez.

Sorry you got scammed like that.
zombieyaoi
Jul. 21st, 2012 07:23 pm (UTC)
I added an edit to the journal providing proper links to her DeviantART and her FurAffinity accounts. I don't know if she knows of this thread or not, though if she checks the FurcArtZone thread, I'm sure she'll find it.
lyrium_otogi
Jul. 26th, 2012 06:21 am (UTC)
Just to let people here know, she has been up to no good once again. Another thread was created about her with new alt names she uses on Furcadia. http://www.furcartzone.com/index.php?topic=17355.0
zombieyaoi
Jul. 26th, 2012 06:37 am (UTC)
I was just about to post that. But you beat me to it. xD
lyrium_otogi
Jul. 26th, 2012 06:40 am (UTC)
Ha! Yeah, I am pretty quick with things. Gingerbread Lady there on FAZ.
Jessie Serpi
Jul. 26th, 2012 06:44 am (UTC)
http://www.furcartzone.com/index.php?topic=17356.0

My thread on getting scammed by her. Pish... I'm honesty mad at the fact that she thinks I am to blame for everything and that I am greedy.... Considering that she talked a $10 commissions artist down to $2.5.......

Edited at 2012-07-26 06:48 am (UTC)
lyrium_otogi
Jul. 27th, 2012 10:43 am (UTC)
Oh, it appears she has another FA account under the name leatherdemon [https://www.furaffinity.net/user/leatherdemon/ ]. She is also trying to cut her losses on Furcadia and making the move to Second Life, info found from her facebook page which one can find if you just search for Zephriam Blackwing.

Edited at 2012-07-27 10:43 am (UTC)
zombieyaoi
Jul. 29th, 2012 06:35 pm (UTC)
Added that link to the main entry as well. Thank you.
zombieyaoi
Aug. 2nd, 2012 06:41 pm (UTC)
She's apparently deactivated her DeviantART accounts. Dunno about the FurAffinity ones.
anakarr
Oct. 2nd, 2013 03:58 pm (UTC)
Consent To Post Logs
Some ToS claims that you may not post logs or images of your conversation. This is not true. Understand that while doing so may result in removal from their site or game.

How this works:

Passive Consent:
----------------

When you agree to certain terms of service, one of the things you often agree to is that you are aware your conversation with any said person is being recorded and may be used for administrative purposes. This does not mean that they are giving others the right to log your conversations, or use them in any way. However. If a person has warned you that they are logging the conversation, and you continue to contact them anyway, you are then giving them as an individual "Passive Consent" to do so.

This in and of itself does not give them the right to share this information with others.

However, lets be realistic. A logfile, or a screenshot, is the digital equal to someone calling their friend up saying, "So-and-so said this". Fact of the matter is, it is less disputable, because it records the action happening.

So, my advice to this...Zephriam person, is pay the 12 bucks, and be an honest person... Or, don't pay and accept that you made a bad decision. Fact of the matter is, it is not illegal for them to post screenshots of something that happened. Administration can decide whether it is necissary, and if not, take it down, but good luck with that since you owe someone money...

Sorry you had to deal with this Lau.
zombieyaoi
Oct. 2nd, 2013 04:52 pm (UTC)
Re: Consent To Post Logs
DA, if I remember right, doesn't have any issues with notes being pasted, (Otherwise a lot of A_B posts would be out of luck, I think.) however, I know it's against Furcadia's TOS to post whisper logs without the consent of the person you're whispering. But I never posted whisper logs, so... yeah. xD

I've since modified and released the lineart as free by request, so I'm calling it a loss on the $12 and moving on, to be honest.

Its not your fault that I had to deal with it, but thank you anyway. c:
anakarr
Aug. 9th, 2016 02:48 pm (UTC)
Re: Consent To Post Logs
Gah I forgot this site existed XD But hey at least it was only 12 bucks, coulda been worse X.x
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