?

Log in

No account? Create an account

Previous Entry | Next Entry

EDIT 2: Though he has been banned from FA on his Dante account, he has come back on a new account claiming to be Dante's room mate:
http://www.furaffinity.net/user/fangglorybane/
Additional Edit: Here are screenshots left on an artist's page through this new account. The artist is one that Dante harassed in the past, and they saw through the new account right away. As you can see, the typing and language are very, very like Dante's.
https://www.dropbox.com/s/l1mgzxnq2h836lg/new%20account%201.png
https://www.dropbox.com/s/39lh3eha0t2tt9f/new%20account%202.png

EDIT: Updated with his new FA account, replaced the last screen-shot with a more readable version.

WHO:
Dante_Rage_Wolftington-Howling

WHERE: http://www.furaffinity.net/user/danteragewolfington-howling/ (abandoned)
http://www.furaffinity.net/user/danteragewolfington/ (new account)
http://danteragewolfington.deviantart.com/

WHAT: Harassment, threats, and attempts at free art

WHEN: They first commented on my free pantsu icon raffle, on May 17th. He has left his FA account and has promised not to contact me since July 3rd.

PROOF: I will put with the explanation, to hopefully help you follow better.

EXPLAIN: For the past few months, Dante has been annoying me. He was a bit annoying during my pantsu icon raffle, where he kept mentioning that his birthday was soon after the raffle ended.

Him entering:
http://i296.photobucket.com/albums/mm177/Loveless_Neko3/raffle1.png

Comment on raffle reminder:

http://i296.photobucket.com/albums/mm177/Loveless_Neko3/raffle2.png

I personally found his continuous mention of his birthday to be sort of a pressure, even if he didn't intend. I just assume most people wouldn't mention it at all if they didn't want to put pressure on the artist.

May 31st, after the raffle had ended, he noted me. I was completely confused at first at what he was asking for, but after clarification, he was breaking one of the rules of my TOS: I must be paid before work. Here he's trying to order a commission and promising to pay later because right now he doesn't have a paypal:

http://i296.photobucket.com/albums/mm177/Loveless_Neko3/attemptatfreecommission.png

I don't have screen shots of this because the shout got bumped off my page (I only felt the need to make this article after tonight, so all caps are recent), but in it he asked if he could commission me for a pantsu icon, even though they were journal only. The fact that he was aware of it, and wanted one even though he had no paypal, really stung me bad.

July 19th, after I had answered someone else's question about my future pricing on reference sheets, he comes to the deluxe reference sheet I did for my fursona and commented:

http://i296.photobucket.com/albums/mm177/Loveless_Neko3/reffsheetalltogether.jpg

I put him on my blacklist then. He's the first and hopefully the last.

June 22nd, he came to my page and apologized. I accepted, and he then asked what being on the blacklist is (I only have a small portion of this, as shouts got bumped off):

http://i296.photobucket.com/albums/mm177/Loveless_Neko3/askingaboutblacklist.png

Then, on June 28th, he came back to my page and asked to get off the blacklist again:

http://i296.photobucket.com/albums/mm177/Loveless_Neko3/askingtobeoffblacklist.png

I replied "No.", but he wiped his shouts before I could grab it. But at this point I was more than fed up with his whining.

Today, July 3rd, I posted a journal opening up my pantsu icons again. He came in, whining about how he wanted one but he was on the blacklist. Then he tried to get someone to commission me for him, which I did not want:

http://i296.photobucket.com/albums/mm177/Loveless_Neko3/pantsujournalcomments.jpg

He sent me a note, and well...Here's the notes (long read):

http://i296.photobucket.com/albums/mm177/Loveless_Neko3/notesalltogether.jpg

After this I was absolutely stunned, and felt making an A_B post was necessary so other's wouldn't have trouble with him as well. But I was unaware of weather I had to have actual, money exchanging business to post him on here (I couldn't really find anything about it on here, sorry if it was somewhere and I didn't realize) so I made a journal on FA asking for advice. Here's how the journal basically went (black boxes used to hide screenames and conversations not relevant to the situation, also screenshot thanks to someone on FA. Journal is also deleted as of now, but I have un-censored screenshot still saved):

http://img708.imageshack.us/img708/3254/questionaboutmakinganab.jpg

And it ended there. He wiped his account, and I'm making this post. I hope people can watch out for him, because this was not the best experience. 
Artist's beware has moved!
Do NOT repost your old bewares. They are being archived.
https://artistsbeware.info/

Comments

( 134 comments — Leave a comment )
Page 1 of 3
<<[1] [2] [3] >>
kayla_la
Jul. 4th, 2012 08:27 pm (UTC)
Hi! I've approved this but could you please provide a larger version of the last screenshot? It's impossible to read.
lovelesskiax
Jul. 5th, 2012 07:21 am (UTC)
Yup, just changed it!
(no subject) - hikitsune - Jul. 5th, 2012 11:18 am (UTC) - Expand
(no subject) - ljmydayaway - Jul. 5th, 2012 02:08 pm (UTC) - Expand
(no subject) - hikitsune - Jul. 5th, 2012 02:43 pm (UTC) - Expand
celestinaketzia
Jul. 4th, 2012 08:55 pm (UTC)
What a nightmare.

In the future the second you put someone on your blacklist, it's a good idea to block them outright. It saves you the trouble and emotional roller coaster of dealing with them at a later date.

I wonder if he has another account, tho. His icon is incredibly familiar and I know it watched my account a couple of months back. Unless he's cleared his watchlist, too.
lovelesskiax
Jul. 5th, 2012 07:22 am (UTC)
I didn't decide to block him because I figured perhaps if he behaved enough I would take him off. He's on it permanently though, and if he contacts me on his new account he will be blocked.
(no subject) - lovelesskiax - Jul. 5th, 2012 07:23 am (UTC) - Expand
(no subject) - celestinaketzia - Jul. 5th, 2012 10:33 am (UTC) - Expand
(Deleted comment)
lovelesskiax
Jul. 5th, 2012 07:24 am (UTC)
Yeah, I am bad about that because I prefer to leave an argument with my side told.
But if he contacts me with his new account, he will be banned.
(Deleted comment)
lovelesskiax
Jul. 5th, 2012 07:26 am (UTC)
I completely agree with the part about tradish vs digital, as I definitively take longer and more concentration and patience with traditional.

And I have updated it, it should be good to read now!
(no subject) - blot - Jul. 5th, 2012 07:56 am (UTC) - Expand
syrusb
Jul. 4th, 2012 09:46 pm (UTC)
Oh yes, that's how a terribly mature individual acts and responds to a discourse not of their liking. Attitude especially shines thru on that next-to-last note set.

I agree with what was said earlier; you were professional but should have stopped responding to him earlier and blocked him outright. Kudos to you for keeping your head, though. And in the future, don't justify your prices. You're the artist, you make the call.
lovelesskiax
Jul. 5th, 2012 07:27 am (UTC)
Yeah, I'm not going to reply in these situations anymore, I've learned that lesson (I'm just a stubborn person, sadly).
dragontripmon
Jul. 4th, 2012 09:59 pm (UTC)
Actually i just seen him on the FA fourms asking for free art.
http://forums.furaffinity.net/threads/121637-Looking-for-Free-Art

He also made a new FA page. which was made just yesterday.
http://www.furaffinity.net/user/danteragewolfington/

Though from the shouts he fled his previous account. Though why would the person involved with this beware would hide unless something was up.

Edited at 2012-07-04 10:05 pm (UTC)
thaily
Jul. 4th, 2012 11:00 pm (UTC)
I was about to link that, saw him begging for free stuff today on the forums.

"I have been wanting to FINALLY get some pictures of three of my sona's, but luck with free artists is kinda, not workin on FA, so I'ma try to post here."

I've not had much luck bullying people into giving me free art, so uh, give me free art.

lolno
(no subject) - ansitru - Jul. 4th, 2012 11:04 pm (UTC) - Expand
(no subject) - thaily - Jul. 4th, 2012 11:11 pm (UTC) - Expand
(no subject) - sharpecostumes - Jul. 5th, 2012 12:11 am (UTC) - Expand
(no subject) - copper_curls - Jul. 5th, 2012 04:32 am (UTC) - Expand
(no subject) - lovelesskiax - Jul. 5th, 2012 07:29 am (UTC) - Expand
(no subject) - kayla_la - Jul. 5th, 2012 04:20 pm (UTC) - Expand
(no subject) - raeraesama - Jul. 7th, 2012 02:01 pm (UTC) - Expand
ansitru
Jul. 4th, 2012 10:08 pm (UTC)
Beware well warranted.
If he acts like that over a free raffle, I don't want to know how he would be as a commissioner. And not paying for the icon until "a later date" would've probably resulted in a take-the-art-and-run type of deal anyway.
lovelesskiax
Jul. 5th, 2012 07:30 am (UTC)
That's what I thought exactly.
(Deleted comment)
ansitru
Jul. 4th, 2012 10:59 pm (UTC)
I'm sitting on my hands right now as the urge to set this kid straight is rising. Guilt-tripping will not get a person free art, damn it.

Has he learnt nothing? :V
I mean, I'm assuming he's younger than 17 as he doesn't seem to act very mature and I want to give him the benefit of the doubt, but seriously. What's going on in his mind to think that that's acceptable behaviour?
(no subject) - lovelesskiax - Jul. 5th, 2012 07:31 am (UTC) - Expand
(no subject) - sharpecostumes - Jul. 5th, 2012 03:12 pm (UTC) - Expand
latiro
Jul. 4th, 2012 10:57 pm (UTC)
holy mackerel! What sour attitude! Definitely blocking him in case he harasses me for free art
otana
Jul. 4th, 2012 11:03 pm (UTC)
Unbelievable, that guy is so passive aggressive it's unreal. And seriously, kudos to you for handling it so classily and for refusing to undersell yourself. That's an excellent attitude to have for commissions.
lovelesskiax
Jul. 5th, 2012 07:32 am (UTC)
Thank you, I really appreciate it!
(Deleted comment)
kayla_la
Jul. 5th, 2012 12:29 am (UTC)
Whoa there, please refrain from personal insults (the misogynistic douchebag part) in artists_beware, thank you!
lackoflollies
Jul. 5th, 2012 12:58 am (UTC)
Oh dear, yea blocking and never doing business. Granted there is no business to be done since he can't pay and I don't do freebies.
marus_puppy
Jul. 5th, 2012 01:07 am (UTC)
Whoa...

I'm sorry you went through all that and I'm glad you held to your TOS/pay ahead policy because this kid seems like he'd definitely walk off with the art without ever paying. Preemptively blocking!
lovelesskiax
Jul. 5th, 2012 07:33 am (UTC)
Agreed, I really hope he doesn't hook anyone else into that type of deal.
arcticious
Jul. 5th, 2012 01:08 am (UTC)
Holy hamburgers, what a shocking attitude. I'm sorry you had to go through that, but as others have said, kudos for keeping your head. Is there any way to report him to FA under his new account, and show them the harrassment? His comments were totally uncalled for and the threat of "I will ruin you" was just a threat coupled with a self-harm guilt-threat. I'm unfamiliar with FA's responses to incidents like this but is there a way to get them banned or IP banned?
lackoflollies
Jul. 5th, 2012 01:16 am (UTC)
At BEST he'll receive a warning from staff, and no, FA stopped doing IP bans because they are completely ineffective and there is no point.
(no subject) - arcticious - Jul. 5th, 2012 01:19 am (UTC) - Expand
(no subject) - lackoflollies - Jul. 5th, 2012 01:37 am (UTC) - Expand
(no subject) - arcticious - Jul. 5th, 2012 01:46 am (UTC) - Expand
(no subject) - lackoflollies - Jul. 5th, 2012 01:54 am (UTC) - Expand
(no subject) - lackoflollies - Jul. 5th, 2012 01:54 am (UTC) - Expand
(no subject) - arcticious - Jul. 5th, 2012 02:15 am (UTC) - Expand
(no subject) - lovelesskiax - Jul. 5th, 2012 07:38 am (UTC) - Expand
(no subject) - lovelesskiax - Jul. 5th, 2012 07:35 am (UTC) - Expand
dirtiran
Jul. 5th, 2012 01:51 am (UTC)
Woah, beware deserved XD
Page 1 of 3
<<[1] [2] [3] >>
( 134 comments — Leave a comment )

Profile

A_B icon
artists_beware
Commissioner & Artist, Warning & Kudos Community
Artists Beware

Community Tags

Powered by LiveJournal.com