poofypjs (poofypjs) wrote in artists_beware,

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Horrible commissioning experience

Edit: I can understand that I over did it with too much info...so... gonna try to remove a lot of it to make it more clear ._.; I did want to include my own mistakes to make this a bit more fair and understanding. Sadly, it also seems that without the stuff that happened in journals, it just makes it seem like I'm a total jerk @_@; I cut it down to mainly where I had the main issue. If this is STILL too much please tell me!

Also, to clarify, for those who saw the original cap on what I had asked for, it was a discussion on the commission's subject and such, rather than directly what I wanted. Given the subject and a few other things, I wanted to make sure the artist was up to doing certain things in general. I really wish I had recapped things though...

Who: Originally EmotionalMasochism, now Toxic-0verdose on Deviantart.

Where: Deviantart.com, at http://toxic-0verdose.deviantart.com

What: This is where it gets risque. I asked for three commission sketches that asked for the same concept but asked if I could use their artist's characters.

Part of the problem is I never did try to clarify everything 100% in one cleaned up note, but, it was an oversight since I thought they understood it quite clearly enough.

When: We agreed on the commissions on August 17th, I paid the 18th, then, when she specified she couldn't do the original because of my character, I changed it on December 2nd. Then we fell into an argument on the 1st of January. Her sister brings it up again on the 5th of January after neither the artist nor I talked to each other... Which is where it went really bad. She finally finished June 16th.

Proof: http://i99.photobucket.com/albums/l310/BaneTK/Toxicproblem/2.jpg Showing the amount paid, and how many sketches there were to be.

Explain: To avoid any further drama, I'm mainly going to link to the screen caps of notes and the conversation I saved. The problem I have really is just the attitude they had with dealing with the situation. They ok'd everything, but then decided to change parts of the commission after I already paid and I had to change the commission from what I wanted original to something else to fit their needs. I only changed it once for myself after paying for it, but after trying to reword the commission concepts again. 

I have to admit, this is my messiest explanation for a commission, and I do jump around a bit. But they never asked for clarification after I was done or asked me to reword it then. They also ok'd something with their characters but after doing so told me specifically that "It's their characters" to when I wanted something changed (due to it conflicting with what I asked for), things they did not bring up before :/ I understand the character is their property but not giving what the commission asked for and telling them no left me with quite a sting, as well as something I didn't ask for, and thus, didn't pay for.

This is going to be quite a few screenshots, so be prepared:

http://i99.photobucket.com/albums/l310/BaneTK/Toxicproblem/3.jpg This is the note I had after a disagreement on a journal(which I can not find due to the de-activation of her original account). I was upset because I kept stressing a higher number than 2(I thought it was 4 before, but I sent her a note showing it was 3 before this one).

http://i99.photobucket.com/albums/l310/BaneTK/Toxicproblem/4.jpg I overreacted a bit on this. With all the "support" talk, it has to do with the reference to the many times I was trying to help the person coup with dealing with the other commissions and how the commissions were originally a "please commission me because I am low on money and need it for understandable needs". 
And this is where the real problem starts. http://i99.photobucket.com/albums/l310/BaneTK/Toxicproblem/5.jpg her sister(who I had no clue was her real sister at all) started being aggressive after the whole problem was over. 




And this is where it really goes down hill: http://i99.photobucket.com/albums/l310/BaneTK/Toxicproblem/9.jpg

http://i99.photobucket.com/albums/l310/BaneTK/Toxicproblem/10.jpg  I was able to salavage the "sorry" over the original main cause of the incident: http://comments.deviantart.com/1/277266217/2350088985 I over reacted and threatened her with posting up about this here, but, obviously because of me actually saying it, I never did.



http://i99.photobucket.com/albums/l310/BaneTK/Toxicproblem/14.jpg Just a small blurt in between all the drama. I'm not 100% sure if this is necessary, but whatever.

http://i99.photobucket.com/albums/l310/BaneTK/Toxicproblem/15.jpg they're right about that. I don't have the original ref (it's pretty horrible), at which point they probably should of threw my money back at me or waited for a better reference(Which I said I would work on, and I did at least finish something quick to help out with the weak ref I gave before). Admitly, I probably should of done the same.

http://i99.photobucket.com/albums/l310/BaneTK/Toxicproblem/16.jpg (keep in mind this is my note sent rather than a reply to mine sent from her) I was trying to state a complaint over how one thing looked because I figure I might as well try to get one thing right even if most people would ask for a redo all together over what I got. I personally just wanted it to end at that point, even if I got what I did...

And this was the response: http://i99.photobucket.com/albums/l310/BaneTK/Toxicproblem/17.jpg as well as my response. I was very upset over even the lack of acknowledging something was off.

All in all, the point is merely to warn you about my experience. It's not something I wish for anyone else to deal with. I would try to ask for her to redo my commissions, but as I said before, I just wanted to end it. I have also been blocked by the person on DA after the stream incident, even though their scrap account has remained unblocked to me. For the sake of not causing more drama, I do not plan on commenting or noting on there ._.; Not unless some one has a brillant way to make her understand about the condition of the sketches.

I tried to contact her via an alternate method. Honestly, I shouldn't of bothered with this, knowing full well of their attitude.

Only kept a few in here to make this less messy.



Sadly, there are also parts that are left out due to the fact that I can not recover parts of the conversation that was left on the original account in her journals.

I should also stress that one should check out her Terms of Service journal before commissioning: http://toxic-0verdose.deviantart.com/journal/ToS-303537342

This is also a response to a commissioner on her scrapbook account: http://toxic-scrapyard.deviantart.com/art/Commish-Sketch-292380919 I would also like to note the quality of this unfinished sketch to my own "finished" piece.

Lastly, one last thing that upset me is that it took over nine months for the commissions to be finished, and in between these, she had countless streams, maybe one dedicated to finishing commissions. This is a quick cap of a few of them in her journal: http://i99.photobucket.com/albums/l310/BaneTK/Toxicproblem/joinmes.jpg

Just to quickly recap, this is more of a warning than anything. At this point, I don't believe there is anything I can do get something closer to what I wanted.

Tags: artist-toxic-0verdose/emotionalmasochism, beware
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