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Beware: TheUnborn

WHO: TheUnborn

WHERE: http://www.furaffinity.net/user/theunborn/

WHAT: I commissioned her for a NSFW sketch of my girlfriend's character with two of her male characters.
Screencap of agreed upon commission and payment: http://img836.imageshack.us/img836/5460/commissionagreementandp.jpg

WHEN: I commissioned her on February 2nd, 2012 and paid via Paypal Feb 6th. Over 4 months later a WIP has been shown, but the sketch is still not finished.

PROOF: Payment: http://img42.imageshack.us/img42/2864/paypalna.jpg
Note conversation on FA: http://img600.imageshack.us/img600/1763/conversations.jpg

EXPLAIN: I commissioned her on February 2nd, 2012 and paid via Paypal Feb 6th. Two weeks went by and I check to see how things were coming, she hadn't started on it yet but promises to start on it within the week. A full month goes by and I check in again on the 1st of April and she claims she couldn't work on it since she just got the internet back, but she'll be finishing it that week. Mid April she claims to have my commission done. Nothing. She then starts to say its her medication that she can't draw, along with artist block. At the end of April I finally get a WIP and it'll be done that night. After that she starts working on "other projects" including a comic and something to do with voice acting, so again, commissions are delayed. Almost the entire month of May goes by and not a word. The 20th rolls around and still "almost finished" and she's "working on it now" 4 days later and she "loses all her recent progress" because her program crashed and she didn't save. On the 8th of this month she says she's working on it again. Here we are week days later and she's been doing $1 stream sketches, working on animated icons and I'm still waiting.

I'm a pretty patient guy, but over 4 months for a $15 dollar sketch? Yeah I'm getting pretty fed up. It sounds like its a case of taking too much on at once. If she didn't handle commissions like this I'd commission her more.

RESOLVED!: I received both a refund and the art commissioned!
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talakestreal
Jun. 19th, 2012 01:14 am (UTC)
I"m afraid I'm in a similar situation, though I haven't yet pressed the issue. I'm owed two icons...I keep being told that they were finished, that the artist just didn't like them, but I've seen nothing, no proof that they were ever done.

I know that TheUnborn has had some personal issues in the last few months, but that's really no excuse.
goth_panther
Jun. 19th, 2012 04:21 am (UTC)
Sorry to hear you're in the same boat as well >_< Yeah I've seen her post about it, but then all of a sudden she's working on more art and commissions.
empusic
Jun. 19th, 2012 06:40 pm (UTC)
Your Icons
You have already received one set of you icons located here : http://www.furaffinity.net/view/7208802/

I still owe you another set, Which you have seen the lines for, and approved them. I even streamed them when I did them. I will admit the color has been hard for me, since I do not normally color images.

I have Also posted many journals offering Refunds and the likes.
If you would like the refund for both sets of the icons I will give you a refunds as well as the icons.
Re: Your Icons - talakestreal - Jun. 19th, 2012 09:25 pm (UTC) - Expand
Re: Your Icons - empusic - Jun. 19th, 2012 09:41 pm (UTC) - Expand
radcatastrophe
Jun. 19th, 2012 01:50 am (UTC)
:x It really shouldn't take too long to do a sketch.. unless she's inking it as well.. Even with 3 characters, but, I'm not an artist so my input can't really be listed to for this sort of thing.

I hope when they see this they shape up and refund or finish the commission.
goth_panther
Jun. 19th, 2012 04:26 am (UTC)
It really shouldn't, especially since I've seen her post art after mine. She said something along the lines of "I wish I could ink it, but you only paid for a sketch" all while I'm thinking "Um, you should just do it for free since its taken this long". All her stuff is digital, so I wouldn't imagine that it would take that long to sketch out, but I'm not a digital artist.
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frazzled_niya
Jun. 19th, 2012 02:38 am (UTC)
=T A sketch even with 3 characters shouldn't take 4 months to complete....I have done a NSFW sketch of 3 of my characters a few years ago and that took me an afternoon if that.

If she is taking commissions they SHOULD be priority over any of her personal projects; obviously though life does happen. But it seems that she is avoiding (?) your commission.

Has she given you any proof that she is working on the image?

Give her a reminder, mention that she has been posted here and that you would like your image that you paid for. Any decent person though would issue a refund because of the time taken to deliver a "sketch."

Hope it works out.
goth_panther
Jun. 19th, 2012 04:24 am (UTC)
I honestly have no idea if she's avoiding mine or not, but I have seen a work in progress sketch of it, and its nearly done save for one of the 3 characters. I'm pretty tired of reminding her after 4 months and I know if I mention this post on here I'll be the bad guy in her eyes and I'll catch all kinds of flack about it. I know I won't see a refund because all her money is going to her moving ASAP, so that option is out.
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celestinaketzia
Jun. 19th, 2012 04:58 am (UTC)
Wow, agreeing with others that a three character sketch should not take four months. It might take me a couple of hours or three depending on what route I take. =\ I hope you get your art soon.
empusic
Jun. 19th, 2012 09:57 pm (UTC)
A 3 character sketch does not normally take four month this is true. At the same time It was a detailed sketch and they take me about 3 hours per character. This does not make up for the 4 months. I understand that.

This post also fails to mention that i was in the hospital at least 3 weeks of this time, was without internet for over 23 days, and have been heavily medicated. Also that the "Other projects" were being used for either getting a real job, With animation, or pulling out of Art block. So that I could make a actual living verses trying to overwhelm myself.

They also could have asked for a refund, verses assume that since I was moving that I wouldn't give one.

On top of it all I will admit I was at fault, Medication, and hospital trips are not a good excuse for 4 months of wait time. I will admit I am completely at fault in this situation and have not handled it well, but, a few things have are worded incorrectly.

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empusic
Jun. 19th, 2012 06:47 pm (UTC)
Your commissions.
First I would like to state that I have posted offering many refunds across the board, You could have chosen a refund.

I have also been highly sick, and have been in and out of the hospital, i have been posting proof and keeping people updated on those facts. I understand that being in the hospital, being sick, and trying to fund a new place to live so that i have a roof over my head is not a reasonable excuse.

What I will do since you piece has already been completed for the 2nd time after being corrupted is this.
I will be refunding your money, and sending you the high resolution of the sketch and lines.

So you get the art for free.

I do apologize for the time it has taken.

~
P.S. Also, I do not view you as a bad guy. Not one in any form or fashion.

You have every right to be worried,or concerned about not having your art by now.

Edited at 2012-06-19 07:40 pm (UTC)
empusic
Jun. 19th, 2012 08:07 pm (UTC)
Re: Your commissions.
My only issue with this ordeal is this.
Instead of asking for a refund you have assumed that I would not give you one because I am currently trying to move. That is it.

ellonwye
Jun. 19th, 2012 10:00 pm (UTC)
Re: Your commissions.
'I understand that being in the hospital, being sick, and trying to fund a new place to live so that i have a roof over my head is not a reasonable excuse. '

Don't take this kind of attitude, it's childish. There's really no need for it when you've been polite and courteous in the rest of this comment and in your other comments too.
Re: Your commissions. - empusic - Jun. 19th, 2012 10:02 pm (UTC) - Expand
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goth_panther
Jun. 19th, 2012 10:40 pm (UTC)
Re: Your commissions.
Stated above, I didn't want to demand a refund because of your health and because you're trying to move. I know what it's like to be in that kind of a situation.

I do appreciate the refund and the piece completed. If you're strapped on $$ at the moment I'm not worried about an immediate refund.
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Re: Your commissions. - shukivengeance - Jun. 20th, 2012 03:48 pm (UTC) - Expand
kwolf13
Jun. 19th, 2012 10:32 pm (UTC)
As others have said. It definitely does not take 4 months to do a sketch commission. Even with three characters. I do sketches all the time, and they take me an hour for each character AT MOST. Now granted, my style is toony and simple. But I think even a detailed/realistic sketch would take no more than a day, breaks not included.

The artist seems to have a lot of excuses. Sorry to say. But at least from the looks of the comments here, it'll be resolved.
empusic
Jun. 19th, 2012 10:57 pm (UTC)
My sketches take me between 2-3 hours per character.

Yes i have medical issues, and housing issues, and at the same time I have stated that these are NOT excuses and that I take full blame on my part.

Edited at 2012-06-19 10:58 pm (UTC)
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