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Beware: Stellary/Absinthe/Inky


WHO: Stellary/Absinthe aka Inky/Nancy/Stellary on Chatlands

WHERE: main base: http://www.furaffinity.net/user/absinthe, commission transactions took place on TheTotemLands (prior to closing) and on Serenity Isles

WHAT: 2 "poses" from TTL ($8 each [edit, my email says $6 was sent for the one pose which was completed, but I believe the other two were considered $8 as the ref was $20, if I remember correctly]) and 3 poses on Serenity ($13) each; one owed TTL pose completed

WHEN: Commission began around June 2009


PROOF:
Original emails (TTL):
http://screencast.com/t/98PDW8uwbk7Q
http://screencast.com/t/SpFiEGVGxa8r


Commission on Serenity:
http://screencast.com/t/GZJ4p9OK5b
http://screencast.com/t/CxfB8Mzu
http://screencast.com/t/xCLRtCZpn3o
http://screencast.com/t/iHiYSMKO
http://screencast.com/t/SsxU1Umrnv
http://screencast.com/t/uAsmT3stm

Note asking for a refund:
http://screencast.com/t/7YVmwKOchp
http://screencast.com/t/aHgmSR1kfSgI(Her response)

Recent emails asking for an update/refund:
http://screencast.com/t/OBofSPV5phO
http://screencast.com/t/JBMwY5sc81v (Message was forwarded because I did not want to type it all out again)

Recent PM on wolfhome asking for information:
http://screencast.com/t/UtvhDTq7hFV
http://screencast.com/t/18kgPpRfLoQ2 (showing it was read, the pawprint goes from yellow to white when a message has been read)

Unfortunately I have no paypal screenshots of the transaction as the account I used to pay has since been closed, however I would assume that her replying she had received payment should be enough proof on my end.

EXPLAIN:
Back in 2009 I commissioned Inky for a refsheet of my character, however I changed it from a ref to 2 chat poses (and got a third pose later which was completed) and told her to keep the extra (as seen in first email) [also this proof is lost as TTL has been closed and I never thought to get screenshots of these PMs].  This art was never completed and I lost contact with her.  In 2011 she posted a topic to sell poses again on the chat SerenityIsles and I contacted her then about the owed art and was interested in getting some new commissions.  One of the owed poses was completed and that was all.  Later in the year I attempted to contact her as she had posted another topic selling custom chat poses.  At this point she said she would probably no longer do poses but could instead offer me another type of art in place of these poses.  Unfortunately, life got the best of me and I was unable to reply for a few more months, this is my fault completely and not a lack of communication on her part.  However, I emailed her again almost two weeks ago without response.  A few days after sending the most recent email I forwarded it again to her.  Tonight (4/24) I tried to send her a private message on another chatlands forum she was taking commissions on.  She has read the message but has yet to respond.

EDIT:
Finally got a response from her.  I sent her a second PM on the forum she is actively making poses on and got a response.

Private Messages:
http://screencast.com/t/yvRXGMQgPR6
http://www.screencast.com/t/GBZYreZBH0
http://www.screencast.com/t/gCZPexld
http://www.screencast.com/t/XEXp9xgvokjX
http://www.screencast.com/t/TuDQGNS4

For the record here is the previously mentioned email about being "banned":
http://www.screencast.com/t/sMfKfRKU

I will accept blame for the email not being sent immediately.  I had written it up and attempted to send it from my school wifi on my phone but must have left the wifi zone and caused it to wait in my outbox until I was back home and using stable wifi.  The choice to keep her from selling on Serenity was not only my choice, as stated in my replies, but the choice of several team members giving their input and opinions on the matter.  She had taken not only my money but the money of other users on Serenity and they were, luckily, refunded.

And I managed to dig out the transaction in my paypal history:
http://www.screencast.com/t/B3AlkprkD

And her topic on the Wolfhome forums actively selling poses:
http://screencast.com/t/rSMhD49Eb

I was honestly shocked that she was treating me so unprofessionally because of a grudge about a supposed ban on her account on the chat I manage.  Whether I had banned her or not I would hope that she would be able to treat me respectably and professionally as this is a business transaction between two people, when money is involved there should be no room for grudges.

EDIT 2:

Taking on more commissions:
http://screencast.com/t/bbjo6os6

Recent journal about how little she cares (yet needs to make a spectacle of not caring):
http://screencast.com/t/Qhjj8g7805
http://screencast.com/t/D1Pixolf (no time for art but still managing to complete her own personal art as well as premade characters)

Art she has completed recently:
Sketch of ref sheet: http://screencast.com/t/7KUk7Q6hG5v
Completed ref sheet (finished within 24 hours): http://screencast.com/t/bYzwDyIvZP

Premade "hell hound" sales:
Topic posted: http://screencast.com/t/gC2ppMqURLM
Final bid: http://screencast.com/t/AkIa3INBQQ

She claims to have no time to draw due to her work schedule, but she is able to create sketches for herself and even had the time to finish a ref sheet.  Since taking the pose commissions on WolfHome she has completed one and has created several poses for herself (here are two of these: http://screencast.com/t/t6t2hmk7No8).  She has also been able to make and sell premade characters (I know not too much work goes into these but still she could use the time to work on commissions).
She went and made a journal about how little she cares about being posted here, which shows she will most likely never change her ways as she does not care about her reputation or how others view her.

I'm giving a short break between my last PM to her and my next one, so she can not say I have not been patient.

EDIT 3:
More comments from her "I don't care" journal:
http://screencast.com/t/PhCTc802oN

She's posted a journal asking people to leave a comment in order to receive a refund.  Oddly enough, this is exactly what happened with me last time and she ended up not refunding me anyway. Here's the journal:
http://screencast.com/t/sAppy7EcpAD
I also don't feel like I should have to comment on her journal just to remind her of what she owes me when I told her less than a week ago.


Will keep this updated as it all unfolds!

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slushienyappy
Apr. 25th, 2012 08:02 pm (UTC)
I swear I think Ive seen her posted here more than anyone else.

I really hope things work out for you ;~;.
Good luck!
claytronic
Apr. 25th, 2012 08:32 pm (UTC)
Oh boy, good luck.

(P.S I love your character Mojito)
candyfizzle
Apr. 25th, 2012 09:02 pm (UTC)
I think artists that have been posted more than 3 times with no resolves should be put on like...a serious warning list or something
smogincities
Apr. 26th, 2012 05:03 pm (UTC)
Me too.
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duster
Apr. 25th, 2012 09:07 pm (UTC)
Good luck. She has an astoundingly rotten attitude and has no regard for her customers.
skittlewolf
Apr. 25th, 2012 09:26 pm (UTC)
Prepare to be blocked too. She was posted here before and I mentioned how she gave me attitude for changing a color and then gave me more attitude when I COMPLIMENTED her. She then blocked me on FA (on all her accounts).
pumpkin314
Apr. 26th, 2012 01:23 am (UTC)
Luckily I have not been communicating with her on FA, rather I've chosen to do it on the Wolfhome forums and these forums are sent up so you can block a certain user's posts...but they can still send you a private message.
I'll probably stick to the forum PMs to make sure she can't just shut me out and ignore the problem.
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otherscape
Apr. 25th, 2012 10:08 pm (UTC)
Well there's Starfinder, and I think a few others who have more entries, but Stellary is definitely in the top three when it comes to attitude. Let's all hope she's cleaned up a little.
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celestinaketzia
Apr. 25th, 2012 10:40 pm (UTC)
Ah, so it seems Stellary is continuing to add to her reputation.
ninkit
Apr. 28th, 2012 04:47 am (UTC)
And a resounding 'ugh' is heard from me as I read this post. Not at all surprised. I will take my choice words and keep them to myself, however. I feel so damn bad for her customers.
lackoflollies
Apr. 25th, 2012 11:06 pm (UTC)
It's kinda sad how people will continue to buy from these people regardless of their reputation.
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shinmaxwell
Apr. 25th, 2012 11:07 pm (UTC)
Somehow I am not surprised to see this person mentioned here again.

I'm sorry this has happened to you though. Here's hoping for the best!
pumpkin314
Apr. 26th, 2012 01:28 am (UTC)
I was debating posting her again just because she had been posted here so much, but I figured if I was considering posting her anyway I had better just do it, could save someone else from the problems I, and the other posters, have had with her.
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fastbreak333
Apr. 26th, 2012 08:04 am (UTC)
Man, this person gets posted here so much, I'm surprised nobody has made her a "frequent beware" or something. Sadly, I think putting a label like that is just asking for trouble, so maybe it's for the best.
sweet_melon_bun
Apr. 26th, 2012 09:42 am (UTC)
She's just a barrel full of excuses isn't she. 2009 - 2012 is a long time. How she couldn't have, or rather didn't, complete your commissions by now is way beyond me. I feel bad if I take two-three weeks on a commission. I couldn't imagine the guilt I'd feel for taking roughly 3 years to complete someone's commission.
pumpkin314
Apr. 26th, 2012 12:42 pm (UTC)
I would never, ever tell someone all my "personal woes" when asked for a refund or the money I owed them as I doubt they would honestly care, plus I don't need someone's pity.
It was only the two poses for the last (almost) three years, but that's 3 years to finish two poses. Then one year to complete the other 3. In this time she's completed other trades, commissions, requests, personal pieces, AND gone and taken more commissions on WH and completed them (as well as character references to sell, more personal poses, etc).

I'm just so sick and tired of being dragged around I want it done and over with.
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yoka_neko
Apr. 26th, 2012 10:45 am (UTC)
another FA account?
Isnt this against the rules or something to have that many account switches?
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snowyedges
Apr. 27th, 2012 07:12 am (UTC)
When I dealt with her back in 2010 I thought maybeeee I was over-reacting, since I'm very sensitive and even the slightest hint of attitude makes me upset. Haha.
BUT with so many posts about her, I see that's not the case.
Sadly the altercations I had wit her were all through IM and her Livestream channel, so I have no records, but in short I won't be buying from her again and will toss my money at an artist that doesn't cop an attitude over non-issues and have better work ethic. 9___6;;
mikaufoxy
Apr. 27th, 2012 09:34 pm (UTC)
She just won't learn.
ninkit
Apr. 28th, 2012 04:54 am (UTC)
I just have to say something after seeing her journal post on FA. Sweet jesus. She says she's working 50 hour weeks at Subway. And yet...she can't afford a refund. WHAT
skittlewolf
Apr. 28th, 2012 05:28 am (UTC)
You can work 50 hours a week and still struggle to make ends meet depending on where you live, especially when you are most likely working minimum wage.
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