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Hi all. I recently took on an art trade in exchange for a ref sheet of my character.

They got someone else to draw my character (since they can't draw themeselves, but wanted art from me), and I will be drawing theirs. I started on my half of the trade today via a LiveStream so the tradee knows good and well I'm doing my half. Their half of the trade was completed quickly so no worries there.

Well, also today, I found out that this person has a really bad history of being incredibly rude and demanding and selfish to other artists. Some people on Nabyn noted me and told me this and that I should stay well away from this person. This person has also gotten banned on FurAffinity and had created ban-evasion accounts which have been banned too. On their deviantART account, they also cuss out and complain at people who thank them for watches/faves. I don't believe this person is a troll, just incredibly rude.

Example: http://i.imgur.com/7xa5h.png

I also found out that this person is going around telling people they'll put me on here just because they think I was "avoiding them" for the last two days (when in reality I have been busy and not much in a IMing mood). They have also been going around saying I was a "con artist" and that I'm not planning on drawing them anything. The person claims I am his friend (I have only know this person for a few days!) so maybe if I block this person, they'll try to use the "I thought you were my friend" excuse. They are also a liar, claiming I said things when I did not.

Unfortunately, I didn't know this at the time I accepted his offer, otherwise I would have told them no. 

What should I do? Should I finish the trade, and just remove him and block them? Or should I post them here? My friend also told me that he had a really awful experience with that guy as well and he wouldn't mind coming here and telling his half of the story. I have screenshots of the evidence proving that this person is disrespectful to artists and some chat logs.

EDIT: This guy is starting to make block evade accounts and note me and is making call out journals on these accounts. He is also IMing my friend and attacking her as well.

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Mar. 9th, 2012 08:25 pm (UTC)
Just finish the trade to get them out of your hair. It sounds like with you they may just have become impatient, have they been waiting long after 'doing' their half?

Since we don't allow proxy posts their behaviour towards other people isn't a factor in what would make a post from you valid, and this all sounds just like petty drama honestly (that's my opinion as a third party based on what you wrote, not a judgement as a moderator. That would require a more full account based on solely your problems with them including evidence to verify it.)

Edited at 2012-03-09 08:40 pm (UTC)
Mar. 10th, 2012 01:34 am (UTC)
I took this trade less than a week ago.
(no subject) - excessdenied0 - Mar. 10th, 2012 04:25 pm (UTC) - Expand
Mar. 9th, 2012 09:15 pm (UTC)
imo - finish it, block them.
Mar. 9th, 2012 09:19 pm (UTC)
Nope, that screencap would have ended it for me.
I'd cut it off, no trade. If he flips his shit, post him here.

What a horrible attitude
Mar. 10th, 2012 02:17 pm (UTC)
The other artist has already finished their half of the trade, so if OP didn't finish his/hers/zers they would be in the wrong.
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Mar. 9th, 2012 09:20 pm (UTC)
Yeah, echoing the motion to finish and block.

Though I am curious as to who it is, simply so I could avoid doing business with them. But I understand if that's now allowed ):
Mar. 9th, 2012 09:26 pm (UTC)
I'd like to know who he is so I can block him as well.

Did you get 'their half'? If yes, finish it and just block them.

If not, do you know who is doing it? Maybe note them and cancel, or ask to draw for them instead.
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Mar. 9th, 2012 09:33 pm (UTC)
I'd just finish it, upload to PB or another image hosting site- no point in a public posting, followed by blocking them and just being done with them.

And I'd get your friend to post his experiences- this sounds like someone I'd /never/ want to deal with.
Mar. 9th, 2012 10:16 pm (UTC)
Wow, sounds a lot like a situation my hubby got in to a while back. He did finally get his half of the trade, but it took a lot of pushing and putting his foot down.
Mar. 9th, 2012 10:26 pm (UTC)
It looks like you may have misread this post, since the OP has received his half of the trade but not yet done his own.
Mar. 9th, 2012 11:09 pm (UTC)
Yikes, bad attitude ahoy.

Finish ASAP and block. Although I will say when they IMed you ignoring was not the best thing to do. Even if you're not in a talky mood, just sending one reply with "hey, sorry, really busy right now. Can you hit me up in an hour/tomorrow/later/yourtimeframehere? Thanks!" and leaving it at that can curb disaster.
Mar. 10th, 2012 01:36 am (UTC)
Alright, thanks! :)
Mar. 9th, 2012 11:46 pm (UTC)
I just internet stalk found his page and wooooow that "warning" about thanking for watches/favs.

500thing everyone else with "finish ASAP, block forever."
Mar. 10th, 2012 01:41 am (UTC)
I honestly don't like being thanked for faves/watches/pageviews either, but I've NEVER cussed out a person for doing so. :/ He even unfaves the art he favorited if they thank him, and says "Fav removed.".

It's a shame this guy is so rude to others. He seemed pretty chill when we first IMed.

Edited at 2012-03-10 01:42 am (UTC)
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Mar. 9th, 2012 11:51 pm (UTC)
Agreeing with the finish the trade and block them. Be simple and to the point when you deliver the image, don't mention the block, just do it.

And also? Wow.
Mar. 10th, 2012 12:28 am (UTC)
Geez o.o Nothing I can say that hasn't been said multiple times but goodness, that is no way to act, period. To be honest, that response you posted from them to another artists warrants a "do not do business with" person. I do hope all goes well for you hun.
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Mar. 10th, 2012 01:38 am (UTC)
Should I mention who it is here and update the info, or make a new entry mentioning this guy and his aliases?
Mar. 10th, 2012 01:47 am (UTC)
Re: Question?

I have so much to add (yes, I know who it is)
Re: Question? - sigilgoat - Mar. 10th, 2012 01:49 am (UTC) - Expand
Re: Question? - alex_dachshund - Mar. 10th, 2012 01:53 am (UTC) - Expand
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Mar. 10th, 2012 02:14 am (UTC)
Considering how they think that they own the rights to whatever images are made for them, I wouldn't even do anything for them. It may be doing things a little more difficult, but I'd try to get in contact with the artist and pay them for their art. =\ That way you have no obligation and no headaches with false reports.
Mar. 10th, 2012 02:17 am (UTC)
I consider the artist who did the ref sheet for me as a friend, and I can't exactly pay her via Paypal since my Paypal won't let me send payments at the moment. I'm sure she won't mind if I just do a ref of one of her characters instead, as she did draw the ref for me, but I'll ask her. She's really nice.
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Mar. 10th, 2012 02:33 am (UTC)
I found him on DA and holy lord...

He does seem to have a real attitude! Id surely post him Alex >.
Mar. 10th, 2012 04:11 am (UTC)
I did just now...it should be up soon. It's really loooong x.x
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