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One last update for the evening...

I added the most recent A_B entries to memories, and hope to add any further entries to their proper category thereafter. This will hopefully be a good reference for anyone and everyone in the future. If I missed any vital entries in the past, comment here.

tania and I have decided on co-mods for the community! Check the info in a few moments... If anyone else is still interested, send either one of us an email or comment here. Thanks guys!

-- p00f

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If you were not chosen the position of mod, that does not mean we will not consider you in the future. We believe that we now have enough to moderate the community. When there is an opening announced, we will check out other applications.

Sorry for not mentioning this earlier, we had to temporarily disconnect the computer.
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Comments

mix_hyenataur
Dec. 29th, 2005 06:18 am (UTC)
I'm interested.
drake_anaya
Dec. 29th, 2005 06:26 am (UTC)
I vote no.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but having an entry posted about you (and recently, at that) is not exactly a good track record when trying to be a mod.
Plus, your "no signatures" thing seems kind of contrary to the general feelings of the people who would be posting here.
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drake_anaya
Dec. 29th, 2005 07:08 am (UTC)
What I'm saying is, often, art theft issues often arise from people who remove or alter signatures on other people's artwork. Are you going to be sympathetic to the original artist in that case? That's all I'm saying with that particular argument.

To be honest, the only time I've seen your name come up it has some kind of drama attached to it.

I'm not saying you wouldn't ever be a good moderator, I'm just saying that now is probably not the right time.
(no subject) - mix_hyenataur - Dec. 29th, 2005 08:19 am (UTC) - Expand
mix_hyenataur
Dec. 29th, 2005 07:06 am (UTC)
...you're saying 'no' because I prefer my privately owned art 'raw'?

That's not a legit reason. That's my preference when buying art for myself and my home. How can it be "contrary to the general feelings of the people who would be posting here..."? Half the people agree, half disagree. Some don't care. And yes, i have reveiwed the opposing side's arguement as legit of a reason to do so, but I can still ask 'no signatures please' if I want to even if I have no reason. Do we really NEED to bring 'this' up in EVERY thread that I post in? This is number 5 already.

Anyways, I'm online a good 12-14 hours a day thanks to my job (cuz it's boring, lol). I check up on my lj every 5-10-20 minutes or less when I'm not busy. I check up on old threads/entries that I posted in as well frequently, even weeks old, as well as still reply in them.

I take both sides of every arguement, thus alot of accusations that I am contradictory. But I'm not: I just take both sides into deep reveiw and thought.

I think I would be a fitting cannidate (sp). Please acknowledge me and my future loyal services.
drake_anaya
Dec. 29th, 2005 07:09 am (UTC)
Please see my reply to the comment you deleted (to repost with a different icon...?)
(no subject) - mix_hyenataur - Dec. 29th, 2005 08:28 am (UTC) - Expand
thaily
Dec. 29th, 2005 10:36 am (UTC)
I second this, KAK would make a better mod.
sunhawk
Dec. 29th, 2005 07:20 am (UTC)
i vote no, not because of your dislike for signatures, not for your stealing and altering of jilduck's icon but for your attitude regarding these situations. It's not because i dislike you or because i think you are a bad person, i just don't feel you have the right attitude to mod this community and, like drake_anaya said, i don't feel confident that you would be sympathetic to the artists who want signatures on their art or don't want their art manipulated and credit not being given for the original art. Even when it's something as easy to dismiss as a 100 x 100 pixel image.
tania
Dec. 29th, 2005 08:08 am (UTC)
We appreciate your offer, Mix, but we mutually decided to decline because of the recent controversy surrounding you on this community.

The general idea behind this community is to support the rights of artists - and most artists understand those rights to include the right to sign their art and the right to upload their art (including photos and icons) without running risk of it being taken, modified or reposted without permission.

You are entitled to your own opinions on all this, of course! These communities exist to foster discussion and debate about such things, and I hope you will remain an active member and contributor.

Thank you again for your generous offer. :)
mix_hyenataur
Dec. 29th, 2005 08:27 am (UTC)
Who says I don't respect and support the rights of artists? They have full rights to "sign their art and the right to upload their art". I just prefer the art I buy to not have a signature veiwable. Is that 'seriously' disrespectful? *sigh* I beleive that it isn't... I'm not trying to disrespect people by doing so, or asking to do so. I just don't 'enjoy' the abstract taint of a contrasting signature in a beautiful peice of work... that's all. Sorry if I offend by doing so, it's just me.

Could you please contact me via email about this matter though on 'recent controversy'.
tania
Dec. 29th, 2005 08:43 am (UTC)
No apology necessary, Mix. As I said, the purpose of a community like this is for discussion and debate - and I never once claimed you don't respect and support artist's rights.

However, because you were featured in a post here yourself a short while ago, a number of members have expressed concerns (publically and privately) about appointing you as a mod. This is the controversy I referred to.

Also, I need to check this with Poofy, but I think we may have enough moderators now to keep this place running smoothly. We will certainly consider you should an opening come up in future. Thank you for taking this so well and helping to keep the community drama-free. Happy holidays to you too! :)
(no subject) - mix_hyenataur - Dec. 29th, 2005 02:37 pm (UTC) - Expand
fierycatthing
Dec. 29th, 2005 08:43 am (UTC)
I hate to stick my nose in where it doesn't belong, but I just have to share my two cents over the whole signature ordeal.

I honestly feel that the signature is a sort of closure for most artists. I know myself that I do not feel a piece is complete until I sign it. A lot of artists do not want to keep their signature off their work simply because they feel it isn't complete. A signature on artwork is a tradition that has been in artists for hundreds and hundreds of years. It's a way to look back and see who exactly did that piece of artwork, a way to easily search and find the person who did the painting. Signing their creation is a great honor and joy for most artists, and asking them to not do so is rather disrespectful. It doesn't make the piece any less beautiful and attractive, granted this is not always the case with most artists and the fad of watermarks lately, but most of the time the signature does not take away from the piece at all.

Asking an artist not to sign their work is like asking a movie director not to put their name in the credits at the end of their movie. It takes away a sort of recognition and a feeling of being known. Even if the art is not going to be seen by many, it's the feeling of knowing that your name is there for everyone to see.

Anyways, just felt the need to share my thoughts. I respect your right to have and follow through with your opinion, but from the outlook of a professional artist, I do feel asking such a thing is rather disrespectful. You could always ask for the artist to mute their signature a bit so it isn't too visible, but to take it away is a little much.

~RedFeather
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kayla_la
Dec. 30th, 2005 05:14 am (UTC)
That makes me curious. Would you mind a signature if it somehow blended well into the art? Like something that was cleverly placed into a cloud and that you probably wouldn't even notice if someone didn't point it out. Or do you only mind signatures that stand out?
(no subject) - mix_hyenataur - Dec. 30th, 2005 07:05 am (UTC) - Expand
(no subject) - kayla_la - Dec. 30th, 2005 08:10 am (UTC) - Expand
mix_hyenataur
Dec. 29th, 2005 08:32 am (UTC)
"Thank you again for your generous offer. :)"

Happy to help out if I can in the future.

Happy Holidays,

~Mix.
thaily
Dec. 29th, 2005 10:40 am (UTC)
Not to mention the fact we post about artists who don't deliver their end of a commissions and Mix has offered commissions on Furbid (without samples) for ridiculpus prices (150 opening bid) when I don't think anyone has ever seen art which was made by him, at all.
He mailed the icon(s?) he made for 100x100 and no-one has ever seen those either, so it looks like he was just in it for free icons.
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