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Warning about "Jester/Crystal/Ailiah"

Starfinder offered a comission to this person on October 10th; http://www.livejournal.com/users/sfinder/51812.html

Which was accepted by Jester/Crystal/Ailiah for the ammount of $400 OR a PSP, and a second one which was for $800 for 2 character realism, or a $600 lens + tripod collar.

She then finished the first commission($400 or PSP) on the 14th (within a week, as promised to commissioner);
Finished peice; http://www.starfinder.biz/sf-ailiah.jpg

Month have gone by and the buyer has not sent the PSP OR the $400 for the completed first. The PSP or $400 was for her birthday, which was Nov.8th, which was agreed to by the commissioner to have to her by then.
The commissioner has backed out of the $800 or a $600 lens + tripod collar after Starfinder has completed alot of work on the second peice (http://www.nvisionphotoandart.com/ailiah-wip4b.jpg)

and then this today. She has repeatly told Starfinder that the item was ordered but was pending - however nither myself or Starfinder beleive the item was ever ordered.

Starfinder is not posting this herself because she knows shes not very well liked here. But, Both of us felt that this commissioner was one to avoid. No payment, even though the first commission is complete, and the second one was well on its way to being finished.

Please do not flame either myself or Starfinder for this, as we're just posting about the dead-beat commissioner. Thanks!
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Dec. 28th, 2005 05:46 am (UTC)
The links to Starfinder's journal are all non-working for people who aren't on her friendslist, FYI.
Dec. 28th, 2005 05:58 am (UTC)
Oh darn, I'll just have to behave. :P

In all seriousness -- holy crap. That's over a thousand dollars agreed to and backed out of. That's a fucking travesty.

Why did Starfinder accept the second commission from the person when they'd turned up as a deadbeat? Or were both commissions agreed upon at the same time?
Dec. 28th, 2005 06:10 am (UTC)
She asked for a second one the day after I finished the first one, and I figured that she'd pull though, so I immediately began work on the second one. Given the nature of the commission (digital realism) it progressed slower than the first. I am glad, however, since I was able to find out in time that she wasn't intending to pay, and put it on hold, rather than work it all the way through.

The items that were to be obtained from these commissions were to be my birthday gifts to myself. Now I am out of a PSP, and because she refuses to pay the primary commission in full, giving me $300 as opposed to $400, I have to cut my loss and not get a PSP, and still dig into savings and/or borrow money from my father to buy the lens. In the end..my own gift to myself is costing me money. (I am lucky that currently that same lens is available for $475 with shipping on ebay. This is without the $100+ tripod collar though).

I'm sort of frightened to even show my face in this community since I do have a bad track record, although I have been making recent efforts to improve by keeping clients updated, and working in a more timely manner (this piece was finished just 4 days after it was ordered).
Dec. 28th, 2005 06:17 am (UTC)
I have to comment and say that I really really like the way the second one was progressing. Its gorgeous. Its a shame it'll never be finished though :(
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Dec. 28th, 2005 07:52 am (UTC)
I know that's how I handle my commissions-- half up front and before I get majorly through the image(usually I ask for the other half after my "preliminary color" stage). It saves my tail from losing any money from deadbeat commissioners.

I strongly suggest that anyone who takes commissions at a decently high price on something that requires a lot of time does the same. Small commissions, say under 20, isn't as big of a deal as several hundred dollars lost.
Dec. 28th, 2005 06:37 am (UTC)
er... not flaming anyone, but that person commissioned be and paid me for it the day of when i did a trade with her and same with a ton of other people so this is VERY out of character for her.
Dec. 28th, 2005 06:39 am (UTC)
*shrug* well, have a look at my LJ. She has no intent on even paying the full $400. I'm settling with $300 because it's better than nothing. I don't know how expensive your commissions are, but these commissions valued at $1200, or around $900 worth of trade items. I guess she can't handle larger commissions.
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Dec. 28th, 2005 06:57 am (UTC)
I'll help you cover the costs if you still need help in funds.

All I ask for is good-solid friendship.

Hell, I'm getting a psp soon. If I don't like it, i'll let you have that as well. i don't like seeing artists jipped.

Happy Holidays,

Dec. 28th, 2005 07:13 am (UTC)
I greatly appreciate that, and would offer art in return (since I don't feel right taking without giving something back). As it stands, she's giving me $300 for the $400 commission, and backing out of the other one completely. While the other one is not finished, it still pains me to cut my losses on it since I put in quite abit of work. I'm mostly displeased with the finished one, as I am getting $100 less, and I already ran a 13x19 glossy photo print of the image. I will be framing and selling that at FC, though. I am peeved since these items (the lens and the all white sony PSP) were to be birthday gifts to myself. I understand that she may have hit rough times financially, but then don't take on commissions you can't afford, ya know?
Dec. 28th, 2005 08:06 am (UTC)
No problem.

Though, keep a sharp look out for black-market and price fuck-ups on psp's. Anywhere from $50 at times.
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Dec. 28th, 2005 01:11 pm (UTC)
Before you go making images for Mix you might want to read this. He won't like it if you sign your artwork, in fact, he seems to throw a fit about it. ^_^

As for the topic at hand, I'm sorry to hear that someone backed out like that. In the future, for something like this, I'd think that your best bet would be to get partial payment up front - or proof from the person that they actually have the trade item agreed on in hand before you begin work - before continuing on with commissions. Half might be asking a bit much if the commission value is $400, but asking $100 would probably be okay, and that way it'd "soften the blow" so to speak when it comes time for the commissioner to pay.

I certainly agree people shouldn't be taking on commissions that they can't afford. But that's probably why I would insist on a down payment, at least, to be sure that they're serious about wanting what they're commissioning.
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Dec. 28th, 2005 07:34 am (UTC)
That's actually kind of funny, because I know she has commissioned several artists before and I haven't heard a single complaint before now. :/

Hope things get settled. That is some really uncalled for shit, especially after a commission is well on its way like that.
Dec. 28th, 2005 03:49 pm (UTC)
Gosh that is impressive work Starfinder.

I cannot fathom how someone would commit to something, be so apparently satisfied, and then leave you twisting in the wind like that.

Sometimes. Folks are flush when they commission work, and then After things are well along, something throws them an unexpected curve hardball.

Even so, a commitment is a commitment.

I look forward to seeing more of your work at FC.
Dec. 30th, 2005 05:11 am (UTC)
Jesus that is a lot of money for a picture. But then I suppose you are worth it. I love your work SF, but what goes around comes around and some time Karma has a way of coming back and fucking you when you fuck others.
Either way I am sorry it happened to you.
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